DNA from an unknown ancient ancestor of human

[glorybebe]

• Researchers from the US developed a new tool to analyse ancient DNA
• Three per cent of the Neanderthal genome can from an ancient human group
• This genetic transfer is thought to have occurred some 300,000 years ago
• Also, one per cent of the Denisovan genome came from an unknown species
• This ancient ancestor of humans may have been Homo Erectus, the team think 
• https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8601195/DNA-unknown-human-ancestor-bred-Denisovans-exists-people-today.html

I wonder how much more they are going to find out about us with our DNA?

[Piney]

7 hours ago, glorybebe said:

• This ancient ancestor of humans may have been Homo Erectus, the team think 

A lot of Asian and NA scholars had thought the same thing for years. Shovel incisors found in Asians and Indians are only found in Asian Homo Erectus. Not in ancestral H.Sapiens or Neanderthals. 

The idea that the yellow skin gene came from H. Erectus was also floating around until it was found out it probably came from Denisovans. 

7 hours ago, glorybebe said:

I wonder how much more they are going to find out about us with our DNA?

I hope they find that mysterious "ghost" hominid who's genes are found in some Sub-Saharan Africans.  I think that's H. Erectus too. 

[Duke Wellington]

30 minutes ago, Piney said:

A lot of Asian and NA scholars had thought the same thing for years. Shovel incisors found in Asians and Indians are only found in Asian Homo Erectus. Not in ancestral H.Sapiens or Neanderthals. 

The idea that the yellow skin gene came from H. Erectus was also floating around until it was found out it probably came from Denisovans. 

I hope they find that mysterious "ghost" hominid who's genes are found in some Sub-Saharan Africans.  I think that's H. Erectus too. 

We assume the differences between modern humans from different areas of the world are due to homo sapiens specialising for their environments. It might be a case of the populations from different areas carrying different genetic legacies from past homo species. Or even a mixture of specialisation and genetic legacy.

[psyche101]

56 minutes ago, Piney said:

A lot of Asian and NA scholars had thought the same thing for years. Shovel incisors found in Asians and Indians are only found in Asian Homo Erectus. Not in ancestral H.Sapiens or Neanderthals. 

The idea that the yellow skin gene came from H. Erectus was also floating around until it was found out it probably came from Denisovans. 

I hope they find that mysterious "ghost" hominid who's genes are found in some Sub-Saharan Africans.  I think that's H. Erectus too. 

Gees you write great stuff. I just googled half of one of your sentances and spent the last hour or so reading links. Then discussed the origins of pigmentation with my flatmate. Bloody fascinating.

And I haven't got to looking up the ghost hominid yet.

Cheers bro. You rock.

[Piney]

6 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Cheers bro. You rock.

That's why they call me "Baby Harte". 

 

[glorybebe]

1 hour ago, Piney said:

A lot of Asian and NA scholars had thought the same thing for years. Shovel incisors found in Asians and Indians are only found in Asian Homo Erectus. Not in ancestral H.Sapiens or Neanderthals. 

The idea that the yellow skin gene came from H. Erectus was also floating around until it was found out it probably came from Denisovans. 

I hope they find that mysterious "ghost" hominid who's genes are found in some Sub-Saharan Africans.  I think that's H. Erectus too. 

My daughter looked at my tan this year and saw I am an orangish brown.  She tans a more olive.  She is half Irish and a quarter of that is Black Irish.   My colouring comes from my Ukranian side when I tan, otherwise I am very pale due to my Scandinavian sides.   The thought that way more is hidden in our DNA and the history of our hominid ancestry could be so much broader is fascinating  to me

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 minutes ago, glorybebe said:

My daughter looked at my tan this year and saw I am an orangish brown.  She tans a more olive.  She is half Irish and a quarter of that is Black Irish.   My colouring comes from my Ukranian side when I tan, otherwise I am very pale due to my Scandinavian sides.   The thought that way more is hidden in our DNA and the history of our hominid ancestry could be so much broader is fascinating  to me

You certainly make a very good point here, and I think your right our hominid ancestry is much broader than even science is currently aware of.

Take care

[Piney]

Just now, glorybebe said:

My daughter looked at my tan this year and saw I am an orangish brown.  She tans a more olive.  She is half Irish and a quarter of that is Black Irish.   My colouring comes from my Ukranian side when I tan, otherwise I am very pale due to my Scandinavian sides.   The thought that way more is hidden in our DNA and the history of our hominid ancestry could be so much broader is fascinating  to me

Most Ukrainians have Turkic (Asian) genes from the Kipchak-Cuman invasion. ( Scratch a Russian, find a Tartar). 

Also the Eastern Iranian Scythian/Sarmatians carried Northern Asian (Siberian) genes in their return trip to Europe and passed them to the Slavs that absorbed them. 

 

[glorybebe]

2 minutes ago, Piney said:

Most Ukrainians have Turkic (Asian) genes from the Kipchak-Cuman invasion. ( Scratch a Russian, find a Tartar). 

Also the Eastern Iranian Scythian/Sarmatians carried Northern Asian (Siberian) genes in their return trip to Europe and passed them to the Slavs that absorbed them. 

 

In our case, our Ukranian ancestors looked incredibly Asian as they got older.  Pretty sure there is Chinese or Mongolian in a great grandma. I have some features that are Asian

[Piney]

1 minute ago, glorybebe said:

In our case, our Ukranian ancestors looked incredibly Asian as they got older.  Pretty sure there is Chinese or Mongolian in a great grandma. I have some features that are Asian

I forgot about the Mongol invasion.....

Mongol are pretty much genetically the same as Eastern Turkic ( except for the ones mixed with Iranian) and Manchu. 

Edited August 7, 2020 by Piney

[glorybebe]

I am just a huge mixture genetically, nothing in my ancestors would surprise me.  I think that's why the discoveries in our DNA is so fascinating.  Maybe more hominids did breed than originally thought and their DNA is still floating around in some of us.

[Piney]

6 minutes ago, glorybebe said:

I am just a huge mixture genetically, nothing in my ancestors would surprise me.  I think that's why the discoveries in our DNA is so fascinating.  Maybe more hominids did breed than originally thought and their DNA is still floating around in some of us.

I found it interesting that my Jowett blood from Normandy wasn't Norse but Eastern Iranian Alan. 

We probably bred with more human species than is in our genes. Half the offspring between humans and Neanderthals were "mules" so I'd imagine it happened a lot.

[XenoFish]

16 minutes ago, glorybebe said:

I am just a huge mixture genetically, nothing in my ancestors would surprise me.  I think that's why the discoveries in our DNA is so fascinating.  Maybe more hominids did breed than originally thought and their DNA is still floating around in some of us.

I think if most knew their genetic lineage, their perspective would change. From what I've learned of mine I'm a salt and pepper person. A little bit of everything. Though I suspect I'm 100% Neanderthal.

[acute]

1 hour ago, glorybebe said:

I am just a huge mixture genetically, nothing in my ancestors would surprise me.

Not even Bigfoot? 

[glorybebe]

2 hours ago, acute said:

Not even Bigfoot? 

I have really long arms! 

[SHaYap]

8 minutes ago, glorybebe said:

I have really long arms! 

Can you reach across to your nose from behind your head? 

~

[glorybebe]

OMG!  I never tried that before, but, yes! Lol