Overdueleaf Posted July 5, 2018 #2601 Share Posted July 5, 2018 So her being close is a ruse to make me think she has forgiven me...uh oh I must watch my back 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted July 5, 2018 #2602 Share Posted July 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Overdueleaf said: So her being close is a ruse to make me think she has forgiven me...uh oh I must watch my back I don't see forgiveness in those eyes. Do you? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdueleaf Posted July 5, 2018 #2603 Share Posted July 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Kittens Are Jerks said: I don't see forgiveness in those eyes. Do you? She suffers from resting b**** face. She truly does love me...lol 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdueleaf Posted July 5, 2018 #2604 Share Posted July 5, 2018 On 6/30/2018 at 10:01 PM, tcgram said: I too had a female orange tabby. We named her Nomeow Itsacat 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcgram Posted July 5, 2018 #2605 Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Overdueleaf said: Here is Biddy lounging on my laptop. She's beautiful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter of the Nine Moons Posted July 12, 2018 #2606 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Why do you build me up buttercup baby just to let me down? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Meeseeks Posted July 12, 2018 #2607 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Here's mine 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenesse Posted July 13, 2018 #2608 Share Posted July 13, 2018 My European bred AKC Doberman Pinscher. Vicious to strangers, but a love bug and lap dog to my family. ❤️ 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted July 13, 2018 #2609 Share Posted July 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, Ravenesse said: My European bred AKC Doberman Pinscher. Vicious to strangers, but a love bug and lap dog to my family. ❤️ That's a nasty-looking collar he's got on ............. 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenesse Posted July 13, 2018 #2610 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 hours ago, ouija ouija said: That's a nasty-looking collar he's got on ............. Does he look in distress or in pain? Nope. He's happy as a clam in Dewey Beach mud where nobody's digging for him. There's a difference between control and punishment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted July 13, 2018 #2611 Share Posted July 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, Ravenesse said: Does he look in distress or in pain? Nope. He's happy as a clam in Dewey Beach mud where nobody's digging for him. There's a difference between control and punishment. 'Does he look in distress or in pain?' I would say he looks in fear of pain and therefore there's an element of distress showing. 'There's a difference between control and punishment', from his perspective I think not. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander CMG Posted July 13, 2018 #2612 Share Posted July 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Ravenesse said: Does he look in distress or in pain? Nope. He's happy as a clam in Dewey Beach mud where nobody's digging for him. There's a difference between control and punishment. If its a "prong collar" he won't look in any distress or pain unless you are correcting him. its designed to inflict pain, any time a dog pulls or misbehaves... Control through punishment is never a good direction to go. While carrying out any dog training with any breed, never use any physical violence to try to get a positive result, many dog trainers try to get control through fear, “education ends where violence begins" never use harsh tools or equipment, this is the direction quick fix trainers use.. Beautiful dog though.. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenesse Posted July 13, 2018 #2613 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Pfft. He doesn't fear anything. When the prong collar goes on, he knows he's in my control and he's going out in public. Lowes, Home Depot, Tractor Supply, Pet Smart. And he knows he must be on his best behavior. When wearing the e-collar, he's working and training at home. Lounging around the house - he only wears a regular leather collar. X 7 hours ago, ouija ouija said: 'There's a difference between control and punishment', from his perspective I think not. And there is where you're wrong. Dogs this powerful, when well trained, actually like knowing what's expected of them. Punishment is beating them into submission, until you get the desired behavior. Training is what you do to get them to WANT to do the desired behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander CMG Posted July 13, 2018 #2614 Share Posted July 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ravenesse said: Pfft. He doesn't fear anything. When the prong collar goes on, he knows he's in my control and he's going out in public. Lowes, Home Depot, Tractor Supply, Pet Smart. And he knows he must be on his best behavior. When wearing the e-collar, he's working and training at home. Lounging around the house - he only wears a regular leather collar. X And there is where you're wrong. Dogs this powerful, when well trained, actually like knowing what's expected of them. Punishment is beating them into submission, until you get the desired behavior. Training is what you do to get them to WANT to do the desired behavior. I can sense your bad energy in your posts, you have no idea about dog behaviour or their psychology, using quick fix tools to get a solution, rather than working with the dog, understanding the breed and its instinctive behaviour, I see dog owners like you all the time and know how the story ends. I get the desired behaviour without a single training session, I don't believe in dog training, having said that I do it for clients that really want it... The only thing needed to get the desired behavior is patience, understanding and calm energy.. I bet you have non of these... I have over 70 dogs, many reactive and aggressive when they come to me and they all end up balanced and calm.. no e collars, no harsh training tools, just a slip lead and my energy.. Nice to know you can use a regular collar in the house, where a dog doesn't need one at all... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenesse Posted July 13, 2018 #2615 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Iilaa'mpuul'xem said: If its a "prong collar" he won't look in any distress or pain unless you are correcting him. its designed to inflict pain, any time a dog pulls or misbehaves... Control through punishment is never a good direction to go. While carrying out any dog training with any breed, never use any physical violence to try to get a positive result, many dog trainers try to get control through fear, “education ends where violence begins" never use harsh tools or equipment, this is the direction quick fix trainers use.. Beautiful dog though.. Close, but no cigar. Stating prong collars are only used to inflict physical violence and pain on the dogs is not accurate. It's actually the opposite. Our Dobermans follow our voice and hand commands. But we put prong collars on them in public for an extra measure of control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenesse Posted July 13, 2018 #2616 Share Posted July 13, 2018 38 minutes ago, Iilaa'mpuul'xem said: I can sense your bad energy in your posts, you have no idea about dog behaviour or their psychology, using quick fix tools to get a solution, rather than working with the dog, understanding the breed and its instinctive behaviour, I see dog owners like you all the time and know how the story ends. I get the desired behaviour without a single training session, I don't believe in dog training, having said that I do it for clients that really want it... The only thing needed to get the desired behavior is patience, understanding and calm energy.. I bet you have non of these... I have over 70 dogs, many reactive and aggressive when they come to me and they all end up balanced and calm.. no e collars, no harsh training tools, just a slip lead and my energy.. Nice to know you can use a regular collar in the house, where a dog doesn't need one at all... Are you for real? I have 2 Dobermans that I work with daily so that they are sociable. I have bad energy and no idea about my dog's psychology or their breed? And I use quick fix tools rather than working with them??? You have more than 70 dogs -most reactive and aggressive. And you don't believe in dog training? And that patience, Understanding, and calm energy will turn them into family pets? Let me know where you are. I'd love to bring my Dobermans to you for to calm them with your energy. What state are you in? I'll come to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander CMG Posted July 13, 2018 #2617 Share Posted July 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Ravenesse said: Are you for real? I have 2 Dobermans that I work with daily so that they are sociable. I have bad energy and no idea about my dog's psychology or their breed? And I use quick fix tools rather than working with them??? You have more than 70 dogs -most reactive and aggressive. And you don't believe in dog training? And that patience, Understanding, and calm energy will turn them into family pets? Let me know where you are. I'd love to bring my Dobermans to you for to calm them with your energy. What state are you in? I'll come to you. Sociable dogs don't need quick fix tools, your dogs are not sociable or you would use a regular collar or slip leash.. I have 70 dogs on my books, many with issues that needed behaviour modification to allow them to become family pets..I am UK based but take your dogs to Brandon Fouche, he is US based and helps dog owners like you.. and yes I am for real and the fact you said "Let me know where you are. I'd love to bring my Dobermans to you for to calm them with your energy"... tells me your dogs are not sociable. I am not going to derail this thread and continue this discussion, My time is better spent loading the dishwasher. I know all I need to know about you and your experience with dogs already.Have a lovely day. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 13, 2018 #2618 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Ugh...the pet gallery should be a place where I can go to look at cute animals...not a place where people are trashed for their training practices. When you have a big dog that might not be safe around strangers, you have to make sure they don't go after anyone. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenesse Posted July 13, 2018 #2619 Share Posted July 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, Iilaa'mpuul'xem said: Sociable dogs don't need quick fix tools, your dogs are not sociable or you would use a regular collar or slip leash.. I have 70 dogs on my books, many with issues that needed behaviour modification to allow them to become family pets..I am UK based but take your dogs to Brandon Fouche, he is US based and helps dog owners like you.. and yes I am for real and the fact you said "Let me know where you are. I'd love to bring my Dobermans to you for to calm them with your energy"... tells me your dogs are not sociable. I am not going to derail this thread and continue this discussion, My time is better spent loading the dishwasher. I know all I need to know about you and your experience with dogs already.Have a lovely day. In case you didn't catch my sarcasm, when you're done calming your 70 aggressive dogs and loading your dishwasher, You can come load mine while I take my Dobermans to Dairy Queen for ice cream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenesse Posted July 13, 2018 #2620 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I agree! My dogs are people, children, and pet friendly. :-) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander CMG Posted July 13, 2018 #2621 Share Posted July 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Ugh...the pet gallery should be a place where I can go to look at cute animals...not a place where people are trashed for their training practices. When you have a big dog that might not be safe around strangers, you have to make sure they don't go after anyone. My apologies ChaosRose and to the Moderating staff. My passion and love sometimes gets the better of me. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daughter of the Nine Moons Posted July 13, 2018 Popular Post #2622 Share Posted July 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Iilaa'mpuul'xem said: My apologies ChaosRose and to the Moderating staff. My passion and love sometimes gets the better of me. Thank you I appreciate that. I know a lot of my pictures are of her sleeping but that's usually the only way I don't get a blurry shot lol Dolly... Sleeping 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 13, 2018 #2623 Share Posted July 13, 2018 29 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Ugh...the pet gallery should be a place where I can go to look at cute animals...not a place where people are trashed for their training practices. Beware the roaming pack of feral chihuahua's. No one's ankles are safe. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 13, 2018 #2624 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Beware the roaming pack of feral chihuahua's. No one's ankles are safe. Those things can be vicious. Lol. I remember a family member had one that went after my ankles. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 13, 2018 #2625 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, ChaosRose said: Those things can be vicious. Lol. I remember a family member had one that went after my ankles. I had 5 chi-chi's one of them died of old age, the other a seizure. They yap a lot, but never got vicious with any one. The second oldest one is a lap dog through n' through. I have a Prince Charles Cavalier and he's an idiot dog. Dumbest dog I ever had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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