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Israel and UAE strike historic deal

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Israel and the United Arab Emirates have agreed to normalise relations, US President Donald Trump has announced.

A joint statement by Mr Trump, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu and Abu Dhabi Crown Prince Mohammed Al Nahyan said they hoped the "historic breakthrough will advance peace in the Middle East".

As a result, they added, Israel would suspend its plans to annex large parts of the occupied West Bank.

Until now Israel has had no diplomatic relations with Gulf Arab countries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-53770859

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/13/trump-israel-united-arab-emirates-agree-establish-diplomatic-ties/3364243001/

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seanjo

A hopeful move.

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odas
1 hour ago, seanjo said:

A hopeful move.

For what? So that Israel can pull the anexion card anytime they want? So that UAE can get more money to build skyscrapers? To buy their 100ts mercedes while other muslims get bombed, killed, raped...while people still starve of hunger in the world? ( No, it is not just the Christian duty to feed starving people in the world).

So that Israel can continue to promote terroristc Zionism? So that the Arabs can continue to promote terroristic Wahabism?

The only real peace can be achived by direct talks between Palestinians and Israelis. Everything else is imposing someone elses wishes and rules.

As a muslim myself, I refuse to bow down to the false Islam that the arabs are imposing on the rest of us. I refuse to bow down to the false Judaism that the Zionists are imposing on the rest of us.

I do pray for a lasting peace between Israel and Palestine, both as recognised souveraign States.

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RoofGardener
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13 minutes ago, odas said:

The only real peace can be achived by direct talks between Palestinians and Israelis. Everything else is imposing someone elses wishes and rules.

Yeah; except that the two Palestinian governments don't WANT peace. So they're going to get it imposed on them from outside, like it or not. Everyone is sick and tired of "the Palestinians". 

When other  Arab states see the economic advantages of working WITH Israel, then I predict that many others will normalise relations ! 

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Buzz_Light_Year

Well peace with Israel worked out so well for Anwar Sadat.

I expect the U.A.E. is in for a rough go of it.

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seanjo
1 hour ago, odas said:

For what? So that Israel can pull the anexion card anytime they want? So that UAE can get more money to build skyscrapers? To buy their 100ts mercedes while other muslims get bombed, killed, raped...while people still starve of hunger in the world? ( No, it is not just the Christian duty to feed starving people in the world).

So that Israel can continue to promote terroristc Zionism? So that the Arabs can continue to promote terroristic Wahabism?

The only real peace can be achived by direct talks between Palestinians and Israelis. Everything else is imposing someone elses wishes and rules.

As a muslim myself, I refuse to bow down to the false Islam that the arabs are imposing on the rest of us. I refuse to bow down to the false Judaism that the Zionists are imposing on the rest of us.

I do pray for a lasting peace between Israel and Palestine, both as recognised souveraign States.

You don't understand what is going on, this isn't about the West Bank, this is about Islam ruling the Holy Land. HAMAS and the PA are not interested in peace, otherwise it would have happened after Israel left the Gaza Strip in 2005 with the next move being the return of the West Bank.

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seanjo
1 hour ago, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Well peace with Israel worked out so well for Anwar Sadat.

I expect the U.A.E. is in for a rough go of it.

And who assassinated Sadat?

 

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Buzz_Light_Year
19 minutes ago, seanjo said:

And who assassinated Sadat?

 

I suppose there is reason for your question but it was the Egyptian Islamic Jihad.

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5 hours ago, seanjo said:

A hopeful move.

Yes.  It will also put pressure on the Palestinian leadership to come to the table.  

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3 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

When other  Arab states see the economic advantages of working WITH Israel, then I predict that many others will normalise relations ! 

I think this is more about security from the Iranian regime than a desire for real peace or economic advantage.  Nevertheless, the UAE leaders better watch their six going forward.

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acute

It's impressive to see the world's leading diplomat and negotiator, Jared Kushner, bringing peace to the region without the involvement of the Palestinians.

:huh:

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https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/13/jared-kushner-very-good-chance-more-isreal-peace-deals-election-uae-united-arab-emirates/

The dear Palis have had many years to talk about peace yet they never change anything about their behavior.  It's literally all or nothing.  Guess it'll be nothing, eh?

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Hugh Mungus

Donald Trump to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for furthering peace in the middle east.....

somehow i doubt it.

Obama however, got one for being born a certain color

 

 

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3 hours ago, Hugh Mungus said:

Donald Trump to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for furthering peace in the middle east.....

somehow i doubt it.

Obama however, got one for being born a certain color

 

 

Yep.  He was in office less than 1 year and his actions were all about going on a world tour to grovel and apologize for this nation.  To add insult to injury, he was responsible for the drone strike that killed 2 Americans, one of them a 16-year-old Colorado High School student, without any due process.  If Trump wins, even if the Left take it up a notch to violence as they deny him legitimacy, I hope he drops a great big dose of reality on those who have had the knives out for 4 years.

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I'm amused how voices in the MSN - and Jo Biden in particular - are claiming that Obama/Biden actually laid the groundwork for this deal. 

Biden cites the Obama/Biden efforts in promoting the "Arab Peace Initiative" ? 

Remember that ? The Saudi-led initiative that stated that Isreal must abandon Judea and Samaria, the Golan Heights,  and East Jerusalem ? This was back in 2012. 

Of course, the Initiative was a great success; Israel immediately complied, and surrendered the territories. 

Oh wait... no, they didn't. They increased their grip on them, annexing Golan and East Jerusalem, and recently threatening to do the same to Judea and Samaria.The plan was a TOTAL failure, as it was intended to be: it was a pro-forma denunciation of Israel backed by demands that they knew would never be met, but that kept the Palestine Liberation Organisation happy. 

Bidens hypocrasy is breathtaking. 

Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for brokering this deal, but - of course - he won't get it. 

Meanwhile, the REAL architects of the plan where the UAE, Israel, and Iran. All credit to them. 

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12 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for brokering this deal, but - of course - he won't get it. 

It doesn't really matter, since they gave one to the divider in chief simply because he was black and not a Republican, I think the process is not worth giving any respect or honor.

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On 8/13/2020 at 6:18 PM, acute said:

It's impressive to see the world's leading diplomat and negotiator, Jared Kushner, bringing peace to the region without the involvement of the Palestinians.

:huh:

I hear the deal is being referred to as the "Abraham Accord"  As for the Palestinians, they've never even tried to engage.  They boycotted any negotiations and they are being left in the dust of progress that began due to Iran's threat to the region.  It's ironic -and amusing - that Obama's actions have led to Israel having better relations with several Arab countries.  

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RoofGardener

Anyone care to guess which domino might fall next ? 

Although in Africa, rather than the Middle-East, my money is on Morroco ? 

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On 8/13/2020 at 12:56 PM, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Well peace with Israel worked out so well for Anwar Sadat.

I expect the U.A.E. is in for a rough go of it.

Jordan and Egypt have both made treaties with Israel and their leaders so far, haven't been assassinated.  I think we might be seeing the beginning of a change where Arab leaders realize they have much less to fear from Israel than from Iran and are moving to bolster joint defenses against the mullahs in Tehran.  The Palestinians were offered every chance to come to the table and they clearly demonstrated their unwillingness to negotiate.  Leave them on the sidelines while the rest of the region prospers.  

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seanjo
1 minute ago, and then said:

Jordan and Egypt have both made treaties with Israel and their leaders so far, haven't been assassinated.  I think we might be seeing the beginning of a change where Arab leaders realize they have much less to fear from Israel than from Iran and are moving to bolster joint defenses against the mullahs in Tehran.  The Palestinians were offered every chance to come to the table and they clearly demonstrated their unwillingness to negotiate.  Leave them on the sidelines while the rest of the region prospers.  

Sadat was killed because he made a deal. 

But generally conflict/politics between ME countries is ruled by the Sunni/Shia divide.

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acidhead

John Lennon's son:

 

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ellapenella
On 8/13/2020 at 9:37 PM, and then said:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/13/jared-kushner-very-good-chance-more-isreal-peace-deals-election-uae-united-arab-emirates/

The dear Palis have had many years to talk about peace yet they never change anything about their behavior.  It's literally all or nothing.  Guess it'll be nothing, eh?

 I've always heard people talk about the peace deal that would last for 3 1/2 yrs their focus was always on Israel and Palestine. what is your take on this , do you think it's the prophetic one ?

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7 hours ago, ellapenella said:

 I've always heard people talk about the peace deal that would last for 3 1/2 yrs their focus was always on Israel and Palestine. what is your take on this , do you think it's the prophetic one ?

There's no way to know for sure but the other characteristic of that specific peace covenant is that it will be between Israel and "many" and it will be for 7 years and will be broken at the mid-point of 3 1/2 years.  When the treaty is broken is when the clock starts for the GREAT TRIBULATION.  The "time of Jacob's trouble".  That period of 3 1/2 years is a time I pray I'm not here for...

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1 hour ago, and then said:

There's no way to know for sure but the other characteristic of that specific peace covenant is that it will be between Israel and "many" and it will be for 7 years and will be broken at the mid-point of 3 1/2 years.  When the treaty is broken is when the clock starts for the GREAT TRIBULATION.  The "time of Jacob's trouble".  That period of 3 1/2 years is a time I pray I'm not here for...

Those who belong to Jesus will not be under  God's wrath.  

On 8/13/2020 at 1:56 PM, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Well peace with Israel worked out so well for Anwar Sadat.

I expect the U.A.E. is in for a rough go of it.

That's terrible what happened , the extremists are most likely not happy about the this.

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A rather obscure Bassoon
On 8/13/2020 at 1:53 PM, RoofGardener said:

 

When other  Arab states see the economic advantages of working WITH Israel, then I predict that many others will normalise relations ! 

Long term they have no choice, the Oil wells will run dry one day.

Guess Hamas will have to suck it up and go the way of the Dinosaurs.

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