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Trump supporter shot and killed in Portland


Will Due

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5 minutes ago, toast said:

Does that mean if Biden become president and #45 stick to his throne on 20JAN, for whatever reasons, and Biden instruct the military to kick him out of the WH, the military might not follow his order?

Yes, they might well tell Biden `no you didnt win`.

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2 minutes ago, aztek said:

and i do not like you because you exist, again, your fault

technically debateable

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3 minutes ago, RAyMO said:

Its impossible when you don't try, its impossible when you see personal advantages for yourself in the divide, and that is what Trump has always been about personal advantage.  

 

Braindead

 

 

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2 hours ago, seanjo said:

Even if that were true, he deserved to die? You are making excuses for murder?

Where did I say it was justified?

I'm just providing an accurate description.

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1 hour ago, Gromdor said:

Actually that's not quite true.  These guys went to Portland to have a "rally" of their own, brought weapons, and were met with counter protesters.  It's kind of like what happened in Kenosha but in reverse.

The man who was shot was a member of Patriot Prayer.

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4 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Yes, they might well tell Biden `no you didnt win`.

That would be a military dictatorship then.

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1 hour ago, Will do said:

In our country, anyone who stands up for what's right and true is an extremist. Which is most of us.

The man who was killed was a member of Patriot Prayer. You think they stand for what's right?

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Heck, we're so extreme that we've even gone to countries like yours to fight and die for what's right. For you.

You've done that once, two years late and only once you'd helped bankrupt us so you could be the lone superpower. Get over yourself. The US is a shadow of what it was even then.

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Why don't you get a gun and join the battle instead of shooting spit balls.

What good would I do with a gun? Stoke more violence? Start another cycle of retaliation?

I'll keep doing my bit for what's right my own way. The tiniest tiniest part of that is correcting people like you on here.

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3 minutes ago, Setton said:

The man who was shot was a member of Patriot Prayer.

I had a look on Wiki, doesn't appear to be any solid link between that group and any "Far right" people, no matter how many times the BBC says so.

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According to the BBC, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[27] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Prayer

 

They just look like a libertarian group who support smaller government.

 

Anyone have any solid links between this group and "far right" ideology?

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11 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

And if the headline tomorrow was "Marxist killed near protest" you would be fine with that as they were some sort of extremist? 

I tend to judge people by how their actions impact others, not what the media says about their supposed ideology. 

If this "far right white nationalist trump supporter" (i thought the white nationalists now supported Biden BTW) was doing nothing to provoke anyone, wasn't armed, etc, then his ideology doesn't matter or have anything to do with the situation that occurred. 

Did I say it was justified?

All I did was provide a more accurate description. Anything else you read into that is your responsibility.

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Just now, Setton said:

Did I say it was justified?

All I did was provide a more accurate description. Anything else you read into that is your responsibility.

Like you did when George Floyd was killed?

"armed offender who held gun to pregnant womans belly killed in custody"

Or is that not appropriate? 

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2 minutes ago, Setton said:

I'll keep doing my bit 

 

Pewhh

 

 

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My prediction:

Trump wins the election, Biden contests it using the delay in counting postal votes and he declares himself President instructing his rioters to take down Trump. The military mostly sides with Trump and has to defend the White House and put down armed rebellions in many major cities.

Biden does a runner to California where his army is, civil war starts, civil war ends in 2022, Trump is victorious and my biggest prediction of all. A new Founding Father (Trump) will get added into the history books and have his face added to Mount Rushmore.

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8 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

I had a look on Wiki, doesn't appear to be any solid link between that group and any "Far right" people, no matter how many times the BBC says so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Prayer

 

They just look like a libertarian group who support smaller government.

If you go off their own description of themselves, sure.

If you actually do any digging at all, you'll find that wherever Patriot Prayer show up, the Proud Boys are right alongside them.

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9 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

Like you did when George Floyd was killed?

"armed offender who held gun to pregnant womans belly killed in custody"

Or is that not appropriate? 

Was he any of those things at the time he was killed?

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1 minute ago, Setton said:

Was he any of those things at the time he was killed?

I don't think you ever stop being a convicted felon.

You can stop being a drug addict though.

Plus, wherever he showed up, there were other criminals, so guilty by association, just like the Prayer group you mentioned.

 

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42 minutes ago, aztek said:

well unlike you i tend to look closer at events and details. the devil is in them , i see it is 100% democrats fault.  

Delusion, thy name is Aztec.

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3 minutes ago, Setton said:

Bless you. Get a tissue.

 

No I'll get my gun while you play with your spitballs.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

I don't think you ever stop being a convicted felon.

You can stop being a drug addict though

So, no.

Glad we cleared that up. Back on topic?

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Plus, wherever he showed up, there were other criminals, so guilty by association, just like the Prayer group you mentioned.

So you think it's complete coincidence that the the two groups work hand in hand, have plenty of crossover in membership and members espouse the exact same views?

 

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1 hour ago, Kismit said:

And why didn't anybody give the manual to the POTUS.

Seriously?  You are saying Trump should have employed the Insurrection Act or Martial law?  That would have been his only legal remedy.  I think you understand the politics of this well enough to know what that would have caused.  It must be gratifying to see the guy that is loathed be in a no-win situation.  A bunch of punk, spastic children giving a black eye to the U.S. president.  If he gets re-elected, I hope he sends in Federal troops and crushes these punks so thoroughly that they never try this kind of action again.  They really AREN'T up to much.  It will only take the will to do it.

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33 minutes ago, aztek said:

so did lenin and stalin, and i'm sure mao, and  kim ir sung, and any other marxist socialist,  but they wont teach you that in schools, and look who is rioting, generations who were raised in liberal school system, and thought false history

If it weren't for Liberal people, we'd still be living in the middle ages. Because the cons are always yearning for the good old days, whatever they are.

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1 minute ago, Will do said:

 

No I'll get my gun while you play with your spitballs.

 

 

Go ahead. I'm sure shooting your computer screen will really put me in my place.

Either that, or you mean it more literally, in which case I'm sure we'll be writing about you on here soon.

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1 minute ago, Setton said:

 

So you think it's complete coincidence that the the two groups work hand in hand, have plenty of crossover in membership and members espouse the exact same views?

 

I assume you have some kind of link for these claims? 

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1 hour ago, Will do said:

 

I guess your ability to recognize reality has been so compromised (for obvious reasons) you can't even see that of course, combating those who want to create a Bolshevik like crisis will make the violence worse.

But in the final analysis, in this country, it will be like what happens to a fly when it is hit with a sledgehammer.

 

 

So you are saying the letter doesn't say what it says?

<Looks at the letter again>

Looks pretty real to me. 

What does that sentence say in Will do world?

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1 minute ago, and then said:

It must be gratifying to see the guy that is loathed be in a no-win situation. 

When it's of his own making? 

Immeasurably so.

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