ian hacktorp Posted September 4, 2020 #501 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Tatetopa said: I wouldn't bet big money on it. Do you think he was even trying to survive? I don't think Reinoehl wanted to die. In fact, I think there is a chance that police killed him because they didn't want to see him get acquitted...which might have happened had he been prosecuted. Eyewitnesses said 30 to 40 shots were fired, after all. Not that I would agree with an extra-judicial killing by police...but emotions are running pretty high right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 4, 2020 #502 Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, ian hacktorp said: I don't think Reinoehl wanted to die. In fact, I think there is a chance that police killed him because they didn't want to see him get acquitted...which might have happened had he been prosecuted. Eyewitnesses said 30 to 40 shots were fired, after all. Not that I would agree with an extra-judicial killing by police...but emotions are running pretty high right now. Reinoehl wanted to die to support the left wing Marxist communists terrorism, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted September 4, 2020 #503 Share Posted September 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Reinoehl wanted to die to support the left wing Marxist communists terrorism, Well he is supporting them now from a pine box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 4, 2020 #504 Share Posted September 4, 2020 To me the BLM`s protesters shouldn't riot the matters. but go through the law and orders of the justice in the courts , not destroy them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted September 4, 2020 #505 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Golden Duck said: Back up that first paragraph. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule Quote Under U.S. law the fleeing felon rule was limited in 1985 to non-lethal force in most cases by Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1. The justices held that deadly force "may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others."[3] A police officer may not seize an unarmed, nondangerous suspect by shooting him dead...however...Where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent escape by using deadly force. — Justice Byron White, Tennessee v. Garner[4] Fleeing felons may be followed into places not open to the public without a warrant if the officer is in "hot pursuit."[5] 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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+and-then Posted September 4, 2020 #508 Share Posted September 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Golden Duck said: Under the justice system they shot an innocent man. Go with that, I'm sure cops will believe you to be correct. This dirtbag was acting like a zombie, I think he knew he was about to to prison and decided to play the suicide by cop game. Had this guy been left to his choices the officer behind him would have had no margin for self defense. What's so difficult to understand? They shot a man that had already physically resisted and gave every indication he was going for a weapon. Under OUR justice system, he bought a ticket to the room temperature challenge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 4, 2020 #509 Share Posted September 4, 2020 22 hours ago, Golden Duck said: Where was the knife found? Driver's side floor boards. https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/jacob-blake-had-a-knife-in-his-car-when-he-was-shot-by-police-doj/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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docyabut2 Posted September 4, 2020 #512 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, docyabut2 said: To me the BLM`s protesters shouldn't riot the matters. but go through the law and orders of the justice in the courts , not destroy them to add they should nt destroy the police and the court houses.:( love and forgiveness in America in the old right conservative ideas of Jesus is the answers. Not the new left Liberalism ideas Edited September 5, 2020 by docyabut2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autochthon1990 Posted September 5, 2020 #513 Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 hours ago, ian hacktorp said: Hillsboro is not Portland. I'd suggest you get out a bit more, but I don't want you to take an unnecessary risk. Dude I'm a natural born Oregonian, its one of the myriad neighborhoods that sort of congealed into the greater Portland Metro Area over the decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted September 5, 2020 #514 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Buzz_Light_Year said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule Hmmm... the conjunction really doesn't back up that paragraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted September 5, 2020 #515 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, ian hacktorp said: don't think Reinoehl wanted to die. In fact, I think there is a chance that police killed him because they didn't want to see him get acquitted...which might have happened had he been prosecuted. Eyewitnesses said 30 to 40 shots were fired, after all. Not that I would agree with an extra-judicial killing by police...but emotions are running pretty high right now. Good assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted September 5, 2020 #516 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, and then said: Go with that, I'm sure cops will believe you to be correct. This dirtbag was acting like a zombie, I think he knew he was about to to prison and decided to play the suicide by cop game. Had this guy been left to his choices the officer behind him would have had no margin for self defense. What's so difficult to understand? They shot a man that had already physically resisted and gave every indication he was going for a weapon. Under OUR justice system, he bought a ticket to the room temperature challenge. Pfft. Can't tackle without pads. They stoppef him getting in the car, they stopped the threat. Everything else that woulda or coulda done is imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted September 5, 2020 #517 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, and then said: Driver's side floor boards. https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/jacob-blake-had-a-knife-in-his-car-when-he-was-shot-by-police-doj/ And how does that factor into the 10' or 21' rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 5, 2020 #518 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Golden Duck said: Pfft. Can't tackle without pads. They stoppef him getting in the car, they stopped the threat. Everything else that woulda or coulda done is imagination. So, they should have, what? Tackled him and piled on to hold him down? Then what? That had already happened. He got loose and made his move. I have ZERO sympathy for anyone who acts the way this guy did. HE CHOSE. They REACTED. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 5, 2020 #519 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Golden Duck said: And how does that factor into the 10' or 21' rule? Are you actually trying to be obtuse? How in hell were they supposed to KNOW he wasn't reaching for a gun? You have zero empathy for the dangers that police face, daily. IMO, it was a clean reaction to what this thug was seen doing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted September 5, 2020 #520 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, and then said: So, they should have, what? Tackled him and piled on to hold him down? Then what? That had already happened. He got loose and made his move. I have ZERO sympathy for anyone who acts the way this guy did. HE CHOSE. They REACTED. You know... do what other police do after they arrest someone. Control the suspect. Some move. Slowly walk around a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted September 5, 2020 #521 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, and then said: Are you actually trying to be obtuse? How in hell were they supposed to KNOW he wasn't reaching for a gun? You have zero empathy for the dangers that police face, daily. IMO, it was a clean reaction to what this thug was seen doing. You have what? How could possibly may, or may not have? They stopped him reaching into the car. The could have done plenty before he even reached the driver's door. And walking past the passenger door doesn't add any credence to your counterfactual fantasies. So the 10 foot deal? Are you completely abandoning that yet? Edited September 5, 2020 by Golden Duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 5, 2020 #522 Share Posted September 5, 2020 14 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: The US Police are legally allowed to shoot someone trying to escape who is suspected of a felony. The guy can be seen not complying with the police, he walks off, tries to get into his car to escape, where upon one of the officers rightfully shoots him in the back. Its his own fault he is paralysed, and with the three offenses he committed his prison sentences will be his own fault too. I have no sympathy for criminal scumbags, they need to take personal responsibility for their actions. And this guy was a scumbag. We arent talking parking offences, one of them is sexual assault. Anyone who isn't a sold-out political hack would admit that if it had been THEY who was faced with a thug reaching for a weapon, they'd have shot too. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 5, 2020 #523 Share Posted September 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, and then said: Anyone who isn't a sold-out political hack would admit that if it had been THEY who was faced with a thug reaching for a weapon, they'd have shot too. I think they'd be dead... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted September 5, 2020 #524 Share Posted September 5, 2020 There must be something in the water in Portland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted September 5, 2020 #525 Share Posted September 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, acidhead said: There must be something in the water in Portland Your post seems like Deja Vu, or else you post the same thing every night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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