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Trump supporter shot and killed in Portland

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Cookie Monster
2 minutes ago, aztek said:

so did lenin and stalin, and i'm sure mao, and  kim ir sung, and any other marxist socialist,  but they wont teach you that in schools, and look who is rioting, generations who were raised in liberal school system, and thought false history

Do you notice with all the cries about the far right it has always, always, been the socialists that do the genocide? Socialists in whatever form they take.

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Will Due
Just now, Cookie Monster said:

Hitler did exactly the same with his merry band of socialist foot soldiers.

 

They always eat themselves.

Think Ernst Rohm.

 

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RAyMO
2 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Its impossible for a President to heal a divide when the opposition is intent on opening it up.

Its impossible when you don't try, its impossible when you see personal advantages for yourself in the divide, and that is what Trump has always been about personal advantage.  

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aztek
4 minutes ago, RAyMO said:

its his fault for not recognising the problems that exist in the US, the level of violence exhibited by police to black people but more - remember that Australia women shot dead after she reported a suspected rape?

for not recognising that a very sizable portion of your society is alienated by its government and its governmental bodies - rather than doing what any sane person would do and saying I hear ya, We will investigate and get to the bottom of this - he does the exact opposite and attacks that same those that already alienated - why does he do this because it plays well with his base - not because its good for the US. 

i don't care, it is your fault that i don't like you,  and i do not like you because you exist, again, your fault

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RAyMO
1 minute ago, aztek said:

i don't care, it is your fault that i don't like you,  

well that's a relief. 

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Hugh Mungus
2 hours ago, Setton said:

More precisely:

Far right white nationalist extremist Trump supporter killed near Portland protests.

And if the headline tomorrow was "Marxist killed near protest" you would be fine with that as they were some sort of extremist? 

I tend to judge people by how their actions impact others, not what the media says about their supposed ideology. 

If this "far right white nationalist trump supporter" (i thought the white nationalists now supported Biden BTW) was doing nothing to provoke anyone, wasn't armed, etc, then his ideology doesn't matter or have anything to do with the situation that occurred. 

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Cookie Monster
5 minutes ago, toast said:

Does that mean if Biden become president and #45 stick to his throne on 20JAN, for whatever reasons, and Biden instruct the military to kick him out of the WH, the military might not follow his order?

Yes, they might well tell Biden `no you didnt win`.

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RAyMO
2 minutes ago, aztek said:

and i do not like you because you exist, again, your fault

technically debateable

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Will Due
3 minutes ago, RAyMO said:

Its impossible when you don't try, its impossible when you see personal advantages for yourself in the divide, and that is what Trump has always been about personal advantage.  

 

Braindead

 

 

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Setton
2 hours ago, seanjo said:

Even if that were true, he deserved to die? You are making excuses for murder?

Where did I say it was justified?

I'm just providing an accurate description.

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Setton
1 hour ago, Gromdor said:

Actually that's not quite true.  These guys went to Portland to have a "rally" of their own, brought weapons, and were met with counter protesters.  It's kind of like what happened in Kenosha but in reverse.

The man who was shot was a member of Patriot Prayer.

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toast
4 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Yes, they might well tell Biden `no you didnt win`.

That would be a military dictatorship then.

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Setton
1 hour ago, Will do said:

In our country, anyone who stands up for what's right and true is an extremist. Which is most of us.

The man who was killed was a member of Patriot Prayer. You think they stand for what's right?

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Heck, we're so extreme that we've even gone to countries like yours to fight and die for what's right. For you.

You've done that once, two years late and only once you'd helped bankrupt us so you could be the lone superpower. Get over yourself. The US is a shadow of what it was even then.

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Why don't you get a gun and join the battle instead of shooting spit balls.

What good would I do with a gun? Stoke more violence? Start another cycle of retaliation?

I'll keep doing my bit for what's right my own way. The tiniest tiniest part of that is correcting people like you on here.

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Hugh Mungus
3 minutes ago, Setton said:

The man who was shot was a member of Patriot Prayer.

I had a look on Wiki, doesn't appear to be any solid link between that group and any "Far right" people, no matter how many times the BBC says so.

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According to the BBC, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[27] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Prayer

 

They just look like a libertarian group who support smaller government.

 

Anyone have any solid links between this group and "far right" ideology?

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Setton
11 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

And if the headline tomorrow was "Marxist killed near protest" you would be fine with that as they were some sort of extremist? 

I tend to judge people by how their actions impact others, not what the media says about their supposed ideology. 

If this "far right white nationalist trump supporter" (i thought the white nationalists now supported Biden BTW) was doing nothing to provoke anyone, wasn't armed, etc, then his ideology doesn't matter or have anything to do with the situation that occurred. 

Did I say it was justified?

All I did was provide a more accurate description. Anything else you read into that is your responsibility.

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Hugh Mungus
Just now, Setton said:

Did I say it was justified?

All I did was provide a more accurate description. Anything else you read into that is your responsibility.

Like you did when George Floyd was killed?

"armed offender who held gun to pregnant womans belly killed in custody"

Or is that not appropriate? 

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Will Due
2 minutes ago, Setton said:

I'll keep doing my bit 

 

Pewhh

 

 

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Cookie Monster

My prediction:

Trump wins the election, Biden contests it using the delay in counting postal votes and he declares himself President instructing his rioters to take down Trump. The military mostly sides with Trump and has to defend the White House and put down armed rebellions in many major cities.

Biden does a runner to California where his army is, civil war starts, civil war ends in 2022, Trump is victorious and my biggest prediction of all. A new Founding Father (Trump) will get added into the history books and have his face added to Mount Rushmore.

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Setton
8 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

I had a look on Wiki, doesn't appear to be any solid link between that group and any "Far right" people, no matter how many times the BBC says so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Prayer

 

They just look like a libertarian group who support smaller government.

If you go off their own description of themselves, sure.

If you actually do any digging at all, you'll find that wherever Patriot Prayer show up, the Proud Boys are right alongside them.

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Setton
9 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

Like you did when George Floyd was killed?

"armed offender who held gun to pregnant womans belly killed in custody"

Or is that not appropriate? 

Was he any of those things at the time he was killed?

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Setton
9 minutes ago, Will do said:

 

Pewhh

 

 

Bless you. Get a tissue.

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Hugh Mungus
1 minute ago, Setton said:

Was he any of those things at the time he was killed?

I don't think you ever stop being a convicted felon.

You can stop being a drug addict though.

Plus, wherever he showed up, there were other criminals, so guilty by association, just like the Prayer group you mentioned.

 

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Hankenhunter
42 minutes ago, aztek said:

well unlike you i tend to look closer at events and details. the devil is in them , i see it is 100% democrats fault.  

Delusion, thy name is Aztec.

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Will Due
3 minutes ago, Setton said:

Bless you. Get a tissue.

 

No I'll get my gun while you play with your spitballs.

 

 

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Setton
3 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

I don't think you ever stop being a convicted felon.

You can stop being a drug addict though

So, no.

Glad we cleared that up. Back on topic?

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Plus, wherever he showed up, there were other criminals, so guilty by association, just like the Prayer group you mentioned.

So you think it's complete coincidence that the the two groups work hand in hand, have plenty of crossover in membership and members espouse the exact same views?

 

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