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your perception of people with no masks

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the13bats

The last week or so ive been thinking about flu season its effect on covid etc,

Today I took my wife to a store and she puts on her mask, i notice the store front has signs requesting masks to enter, and most people do wear masks and its a very mixed group

but the ones who dont wear masks in general seem to have a vibe about them, they look like they could belong to the same club, not the cleanest people, they carry and act outgoing, with some arrogant undeserved sense of entitlement, of course they dont care about doing their part or people around them.

I find myself having a very biased negative perception of people not wearing masks in a situation where it would be a good, thoughtful safe idea.

Im i the only one who looks at it this way?

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ian hacktorp
11 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Im i the only one who looks at it this way?

Yes, that may be the case.

I see many, many people who don't wear masks and they appear to be normal, happy, and healthy Americans who go about their day much as they always have.  And they smile...visibly.

I've noticed many mask-wearers, on the other hand, who walk about staring at the ground or shifting their gaze around as if they are paranoid.  Many use masks that should have been thrown out weeks ago, appearing soiled and sagging loosely.  They probably don't smell good, either.

Also, it seems mask-wearers never smile...you can't see their mouths of course, but their eyes look sad and somewhat forlorn.  Especially when they see non-mask-wearers acting all...normal and stuff.

 

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psyche101
34 minutes ago, the13bats said:

The last week or so ive been thinking about flu season its effect on covid etc,

Today I took my wife to a store and she puts on her mask, i notice the store front has signs requesting masks to enter, and most people do wear masks and its a very mixed group

but the ones who dont wear masks in general seem to have a vibe about them, they look like they could belong to the same club, not the cleanest people, they carry and act outgoing, with some arrogant undeserved sense of entitlement, of course they dont care about doing their part or people around them.

I find myself having a very biased negative perception of people not wearing masks in a situation where it would be a good, thoughtful safe idea.

Im i the only one who looks at it this way?

Have you seen those creeps who cough on money and in people's faces deliberately? Some even say they hope the victim gets coronavirus.

Yes, there's a certain 'type' out there for sure. Grubs. 

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Big Jim

There are several exceptions to the mask requirement, so I just figure that the people without masks fit one of the exceptions.  I feel better giving people the benefit of the doubt rather than thinking bad thoughts about them for things I know nothing about.

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Golden Duck

I'm going to say it appears that among Brisbane train commuters - mask wearers are in the minority. 

We've been told we should wear masks in the common areas, at work; but, we don't need them while at our desk.  Our Gold Coast premises is compliant.  Here in Brisbane - not so much; the general consensus is we're all in the same air conditioning system.  I have a box of 50 surgical masks, provided by the employer, meant to be used only when others have forgotten theirs.  It hasn't been used yet.

I dined  al fresco Wednesday night.

I haven't seen any objectional behaviour in North Brisbane; nor, has there been judgemental displays.  The general mood is that we're all aware.  We're still laid-back without being careless.

 

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Essan

I get a handful of people in my shop not wearing masks.   Some are elderly or quite likely people who have genuine medical reasons not to wear one, but some are clearly just ASSes (Arrogant, Selfish and Stupid).   I don't say anything but did tell one woman the other day that she needed to stand back from my desk to talk to me as she wasn't wearing a mask, after which her equally arrogant, selfish, stupid friend, who was also not wearing one, spent the rest of the (thankfully not too long) time they were in my shop admonishing her for not wearing one.   They were clearly taking the p***.

On a recent train journey, almost everyone - including a large number of schoolkids travelling home - were wearing masks.

This is in England.

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Susanc241

It’s not so much the wearing or not wearing a mask that annoys me (I always wear a mask in enclosed spaces or where required to), it is the people who take their mask off outside the store or wherever, scrumple it up in their hand and put it in their pocket or stuff it in a bag.  Where is the sense in that?  They have immediately contaminated their hand(s) and their pockets or bags if any virus were to be present on the mask.  The transfer chain of a virus seems to be wholly lost on these people.  After all these weeks of info on the whole situation it just beggars belief and is very depressing.  This is in England as well.

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Setton
28 minutes ago, Susanc241 said:

It’s not so much the wearing or not wearing a mask that annoys me (I always wear a mask in enclosed spaces or where required to), it is the people who take their mask off outside the store or wherever, scrumple it up in their hand and put it in their pocket or stuff it in a bag.  Where is the sense in that?  They have immediately contaminated their hand(s) and their pockets or bags if any virus were to be present on the mask.  The transfer chain of a virus seems to be wholly lost on these people.  After all these weeks of info on the whole situation it just beggars belief and is very depressing.  This is in England as well.

But the mask isn't to protect you. It's to protect others. If the mask is contaminated, they're only going to reinfect themselves.

Not good practice but I don't see that as a huge issue.

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darkmoonlady
5 hours ago, Big Jim said:

There are several exceptions to the mask requirement, so I just figure that the people without masks fit one of the exceptions.  I feel better giving people the benefit of the doubt rather than thinking bad thoughts about them for things I know nothing about.

There aren't that many exceptions, people like to make them up, carry fake ADA cards. The latter really ticks me off, the ADA doesn't cover exemptions from mask wearing, the opposite is true it used to be people who wore masks for medical reasons were sometimes turned away or discriminated against for being sick, people with Cystic Fibrosis, and other conditions where mask wearing keeps them safe. Even without Covid people on chemo wear them because their immune systems are compromised. No at this point, with what 7 dead now from the Maine Wedding outbreak, and none of the 7 attended but contact tracing shows people who attended the wedding infected them and they died. I'm still in my house for 7 months plus, and will be in for who knows how long because people won't wear masks. 

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your perception of people with no masks

That it is good to see a glimpse of humanity or individuals who do not praise CNN as the temple of facts.

Or individuals who do real research to see how effective they are and act accordingly than live in fear, or turn fear/action into a career choice.

^_^

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TrumanB

covidiots, the word of 2020. :D

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seanjo
7 hours ago, the13bats said:

The last week or so ive been thinking about flu season its effect on covid etc,

Today I took my wife to a store and she puts on her mask, i notice the store front has signs requesting masks to enter, and most people do wear masks and its a very mixed group

but the ones who dont wear masks in general seem to have a vibe about them, they look like they could belong to the same club, not the cleanest people, they carry and act outgoing, with some arrogant undeserved sense of entitlement, of course they dont care about doing their part or people around them.

I find myself having a very biased negative perception of people not wearing masks in a situation where it would be a good, thoughtful safe idea.

Im i the only one who looks at it this way?

Sometimes people forget to take their mask, like I did, luckily the store i was in had some disposables for sale, so I bought some. That way I can't be tarred with the same brush you just tarred all non-mask wearers with.

 

 

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fred_mc

I live in Sweden where people in general don't wear masks. If I see a person wearing a mask I see it as strange, I almost get a little scared when I see a person who is wearing a mask.

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seanjo
Just now, fred_mc said:

I live in Sweden where people in general don't wear masks. If I see a person wearing a mask I see it as strange, I almost get a little scared when I see a person who is wearing a mask.

Sweden that seems to have herd immunity...

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fred_mc
9 minutes ago, seanjo said:

Sweden that seems to have herd immunity...

There has never been any official herd immunity strategy in Sweden even if it is claimed so in foreign media. Anyway, the situation in Sweden is looking positive. There are around 15 persons in intensive care right now and it has been like that all of September (was 558 at the peak in April). The number of deaths in Sweden has been normal for some months now (after the huge peak that was in April/May). I think it is around one person per day who dies of COVID-19 now (was 100 per day at its worst in April I think). I'm not 100 % sure about these numbers though, there may be some discrepancy but the general magnitude should be correct. We haven't had any backlash so far as what has been seen in other countries after they have reopened, much due to that Sweden was never that much closed down.

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Chronus

I don't actually mind people who don't wear masks, as long as they don't throw a fit when they are told to in a store (yes I have been watching Karen videos)

 

I think its because I hardly wear a mask when I  go out

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psyche101
1 hour ago, fred_mc said:

I live in Sweden where people in general don't wear masks. If I see a person wearing a mask I see it as strange, I almost get a little scared when I see a person who is wearing a mask.

Scared? :huh:

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Redacted File

Remember flatten the curve? They said it was only for a while, only out of dire emergency for the sake of survival... Then the inconsistencies roll in, the same ones encouraging rioting demonizes any other gatherings (church, rallies they don't support) The same anarchists who've been screaming "russian collusion" for four years now want to make america communist, ban police, prisons, free speech. If your can't see it's all political, you need to look closer. America and western civilization is under siege. Don't buy the liberal lie!!

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I perceive them as ignorant, selfish, or both.   If masks have no effect on protecting people from transmitting and contracting viruses ,why have Drs. and nurses been wearing them for so long?   And why did people wear them during past pandemics and epidemics ?    And why do the vast majority of medical people and infectious disease Experts recommend them? 

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2 hours ago, seanjo said:

Sometimes people forget to take their mask, like I did, luckily the store i was in had some disposables for sale, so I bought some. That way I can't be tarred with the same brush you just tarred all non-mask wearers with.

 

 

The above image demonstrates what happens when a mask does not fit right.   The 'vape' clearly reveals large GAPS at the edges and by his nose.     If you notice...there is no visible amount of 'vape' coming through the mask at his Nose and Mouth.

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tmcom
2 hours ago, fred_mc said:

I live in Sweden where people in general don't wear masks. If I see a person wearing a mask I see it as strange, I almost get a little scared when I see a person who is wearing a mask.

Ignoring the "does not fit well, misinformed", (cannot make a surgical mask, airtight) agreed, l tend to pick up depression and anxiety when walking past one of these people, and tend to make it funny, since l have an exemption, or they are "paying their respects, or need to kiss my ring" which tends to kill the negative energy coming from them.

If our politicians want to do the mask thing, with 99% following along, and the media pushing fear for all it is worth, and proven, safe drugs being deemed illegal, since it helps Trump or our Premier lose power or control, then it doesn't take much effort to read between the lines.

Trust me l live in the worst state on the planet for oppressive rules, with a premier 60% want ,....well, l would rather not say.

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seanjo
1 hour ago, psyche101 said:

The cost is highly controversial though. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/12570918

If, what they have done works out, their death toll will be low in comparison to other countries that are dragging this out.

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seanjo
1 hour ago, lightly said:

The above image demonstrates what happens when a mask does not fit right.   The 'vape' clearly reveals large GAPS at the edges and by his nose.     If you notice...there is no visible amount of 'vape' coming through the mask at his Nose and Mouth.

Yes there is vape coming through the mask, and there are other vids out there that show this even more starkly

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darkmoonlady
1 hour ago, Redacted File said:

Remember flatten the curve? They said it was only for a while, only out of dire emergency for the sake of survival... Then the inconsistencies roll in, the same ones encouraging rioting demonizes any other gatherings (church, rallies they don't support) The same anarchists who've been screaming "russian collusion" for four years now want to make america communist, ban police, prisons, free speech. If your can't see it's all political, you need to look closer. America and western civilization is under siege. Don't buy the liberal lie!!

We did flatten the curve, then we got cocky, bored and some just got hostile. 200,000 plus people dead is not an inconsistency and attempting to say it is, dismisses the horrific losses we have had. Older people, disabled people, people with chronic illness and also healthy people, kids, so no you don't get to minimize their deaths as a liberal lie. 

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