Is America under attack ?

[RavenHawk]

I was considering the Liberal agenda for America and certain themes started to come to mind.  What are the core values of America?  The nuclear family was perhaps the top one, but there are several others.  Michael Savage was always saying that you can’t have a nation without Borders, Language, and Culture.  Ben Shapiro has a book out “How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps”, which are our History, Philosophy, and Culture.  Michael Huckabee has a book out: “The Three ‘C’s that made America Great - Christianity, Capitalism, and the Constitution”.  All of this started with Franklin, Jefferson, and Locke as “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (Property)”.  Indeed, these key attributes are our natural rights.  Our national identity.  Without our rights, we do not have a country.

 

There is a different group of men with different beliefs.  Early in the 1800s, Robert Owen stated that man needs to free one’s self from the trinity of evils. Property, Marriage, and Religion.  Joseph Schumpeter explains why Socialism hasn’t died out yet.  1) Disenfranchised workforce  2) Academia  3) bureaucracy.  And then there was Mao Zedong that pointed out that the Cultural Revolution must destroy the 4 Olds, Customs, Culture, Habits, Ideas.  As you begin to see is that this second group would have no compunction at destroying those very attributes that make this country special.  Why would they even want to do that?  Why would a nation’s patriots allow that?

 

Paul Harvey had broadcast a spot entitled “If I were the Devil” and Gov. Richard Lamm shared his “I Have a Plan to Destroy America”.  These two lay out how to put the ideals of that second group in to action, destroying the family, culture, faith, history, etc of this nation.  And we find that under the auspicious desires of the Left, they have slowly been achieving their goals.  Obama was supposed to be the final part to the plan with Hilary cementing what he had done.  But here along comes Trump to rip these best laid plans to smithereens.  We have a chance to heed Reagan's warning about fighting for the freedoms of this generation before it’s lost forever.

[RoofGardener]

4 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

....There is a different group of men with different beliefs.  Early in the 1800s, Robert Owen stated that man needs to free one’s self from the trinity of evils. Property, Marriage, and Religion.  Joseph Schumpeter explains why Socialism hasn’t died out yet.  1) Disenfranchised workforce  2) Academia  3) bureaucracy.  And then there was Mao Zedong that pointed out that the Cultural Revolution must destroy the 4 Olds, Customs, Culture, Habits, Ideas.  As you begin to see is that this second group would have no compunction at destroying those very attributes that make this country special.  Why would they even want to do that?  Why would a nation’s patriots allow that?....

 

 

There is an idea from the 1920's called 'Cultural Marxism'. The marxist thinkers of the time where puzzled that Europe seemed immune to a communist revolution. They theorised that social factors prevented the European prolatereat from rising up. These where: respect for family values, respect for the Church, and respect for government (and Monarchical) institutions. 

Their solution was Cultural Marxism; to gradually get their people into senior positions in universities, and use them to indoctrinate students to feel contempt for these three things. And to themselves become Professors, and to pass the indoctrination on. 

Hence, over the decades, these three ties that bind our society together would be weakened, paving the way for a communist revolution. 

Ever notice how - in the 1950's onward - most comedians and musicians became heavily anti-establishment, and highly critical of government and the church ? 

Then Marxism died, but Cultural Marxism - its Frankenstein Monster - carried on regardless. And it is still highly prelevant today, manifesting in everything from 3rd wave feminism to militant transgender rights, to promotion of Islam over Christianity (including by the current Pope). 

Edited September 18, 2020 by RoofGardener

[Duke Wellington]

5 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

I was considering the Liberal agenda for America and certain themes started to come to mind.  What are the core values of America?  The nuclear family was perhaps the top one, but there are several others.  Michael Savage was always saying that you can’t have a nation without Borders, Language, and Culture.  Ben Shapiro has a book out “How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps”, which are our History, Philosophy, and Culture.  Michael Huckabee has a book out: “The Three ‘C’s that made America Great - Christianity, Capitalism, and the Constitution”.  All of this started with Franklin, Jefferson, and Locke as “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (Property)”.  Indeed, these key attributes are our natural rights.  Our national identity.  Without our rights, we do not have a country.

There is a different group of men with different beliefs.  Early in the 1800s, Robert Owen stated that man needs to free one’s self from the trinity of evils. Property, Marriage, and Religion.  Joseph Schumpeter explains why Socialism hasn’t died out yet.  1) Disenfranchised workforce  2) Academia  3) bureaucracy.  And then there was Mao Zedong that pointed out that the Cultural Revolution must destroy the 4 Olds, Customs, Culture, Habits, Ideas.  As you begin to see is that this second group would have no compunction at destroying those very attributes that make this country special.  Why would they even want to do that?  Why would a nation’s patriots allow that?

Paul Harvey had broadcast a spot entitled “If I were the Devil” and Gov. Richard Lamm shared his “I Have a Plan to Destroy America”.  These two lay out how to put the ideals of that second group in to action, destroying the family, culture, faith, history, etc of this nation.  And we find that under the auspicious desires of the Left, they have slowly been achieving their goals.  Obama was supposed to be the final part to the plan with Hilary cementing what he had done.  But here along comes Trump to rip these best laid plans to smithereens.  We have a chance to heed Reagan's warning about fighting for the freedoms of this generation before it’s lost forever.

Yes, the first step is dissolving the family unit while ignoring the negatives associated with it. A child gets different things from their parents, and single parents often harbour hate towards a child that reminds them of their partners who left them. Its one of the leading causes of parental abuse along with mal-adjusted young men and women.

Next they erode away national cultures by cherry picking examples of racism and using it to create a narrative that the host nations culture is racist. Culture serves a purpose. Its a way of inducting a people into the social norms of a society, of articulating how things are done, of explaining to people how to get on, and its a tool which is used by a Government to coordinate the activity of its population towards a particular set of objectives.

With behavioural psychology in mind, if no national culture is promoted then people create their own. But the ones they create are to serve only their own purposes. So a country is supposed to promote a national culture while preventing dysfunctional cultures from arising. Examples of dysfunctional cultures are gang culture, critical race theory, hate the rich for exploiting us, everyone with something going for them needs to be bought down a peg or too, drug cultures, etc. The people buying into dysfunctional cultures because they arent prevented end up making poor life decisions.

Next they attack masculinity trying to feminise our young men by turning them into feeling orientated people. They want people that make decisions off emotions rather than what is right or wrong and logical reasoning. It makes people easy to manipulate because they are led by their insecurities and fears.

Next they promote the lie that people are equals. Everyone being created equal under God is not about socialism, and it doesnt refer to the strengths and weaknesses all people have. We are differentiated from each other, we all come in different shapes and sizes, we all have different abilities and intellectual capacity. A society functions best by putting the right people in the right jobs and as some jobs require qualifications they are paid more.

In a sane society, at that point socialism is told on your bike. But the socialist `progressive doctrine` as outlined in the works of Carl Marx and political theories of Lenin means using the legal system and media to defend any challenges to their narratives and to make anything other than socialism illegal. Everything they dont like is portrayed as racist, or discrimination, or white supremacy, or exploitation, and they legislate against them.

The end outcome is a totalitarian government which is communist. One in which the majority of the population have to watch everything they say or do or they find themselves dead or in prison camps. Of course, they are not seen as political prisoners in their home country because the society has criminalised them. Criminalised good ordinary hard working people that studied hard for their qualifications so they could live in comfort and bring up their kids in a stable family environment.

Edited September 18, 2020 by Cookie Monster

[ellapenella]

6 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

I was considering the Liberal agenda for America and certain themes started to come to mind.  What are the core values of America?  The nuclear family was perhaps the top one, but there are several others.  Michael Savage was always saying that you can’t have a nation without Borders, Language, and Culture.  Ben Shapiro has a book out “How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps”, which are our History, Philosophy, and Culture.  Michael Huckabee has a book out: “The Three ‘C’s that made America Great - Christianity, Capitalism, and the Constitution”.  All of this started with Franklin, Jefferson, and Locke as “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (Property)”.  Indeed, these key attributes are our natural rights.  Our national identity.  Without our rights, we do not have a country.

 

 

 

There is a different group of men with different beliefs.  Early in the 1800s, Robert Owen stated that man needs to free one’s self from the trinity of evils. Property, Marriage, and Religion.  Joseph Schumpeter explains why Socialism hasn’t died out yet.  1) Disenfranchised workforce  2) Academia  3) bureaucracy.  And then there was Mao Zedong that pointed out that the Cultural Revolution must destroy the 4 Olds, Customs, Culture, Habits, Ideas.  As you begin to see is that this second group would have no compunction at destroying those very attributes that make this country special.  Why would they even want to do that?  Why would a nation’s patriots allow that?

 

 

 

Paul Harvey had broadcast a spot entitled “If I were the Devil” and Gov. Richard Lamm shared his “I Have a Plan to Destroy America”.  These two lay out how to put the ideals of that second group in to action, destroying the family, culture, faith, history, etc of this nation.  And we find that under the auspicious desires of the Left, they have slowly been achieving their goals.  Obama was supposed to be the final part to the plan with Hilary cementing what he had done.  But here along comes Trump to rip these best laid plans to smithereens.  We have a chance to heed Reagan's warning about fighting for the freedoms of this generation before it’s lost forever.

 

Did you see this? President Trump talks about what you're talking about. You know what makes him a Great President , he's a Patriot and he believes in God.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[docyabut2]

Trump is the best president:)

Edited September 18, 2020 by docyabut2

[HollyDolly]

You are absolutely right.Look at YAHOO, you can't post comments any more. I'm hungarian -german. Some of my father's relatives in Germany were for Hitler and others against him. My dad's father was bavarian, his mother's people from Eastern Germany (Pomerania) and Riga in latvia, they were baltic germans who had been there since the Middle Ages. They got to live under the commies. My mother's parents came to the US in 1919-1920 from Hungary to escape the communists of Bela Kun. They also wound up live under the Soviets. So I am aware of what these ANTIFAS  and their well heeled supporters like George Soros want to do. We would be living under the American version of the Gestapo, NKVD, Inquisition you name it.

[RavenHawk]

2 hours ago, ellapenella said:

Did you see this? President Trump talks about what you're talking about. You know what makes him a Great President , he's a Patriot and he believes in God.

 

 

I saw maybe a small clip, his announcement of the 1776 Project.  When he was talking about Caesar Rodney, I knew right away who he was referring to before he said his name.  Unfortunately, I didn’t learn this from primary or secondary school.  It was later studying our history in adulthood.  The more I learn, the prouder of my country I become.  Perhaps my post here (op) was a subconscious offering for Constitution Day?  It is so ingrained in our psyche, that Socialism cannot defeat it.

 

 

[Myles]

Law enforcement is under attack.

 

Arizona police are searching for a second suspect involved in an “ambush-style shooting” of an officer on Thursday morning, state troopers announced.

 

A silver Infinity pulled up to an unmarked car on Roosevelt Street in Pheonix, in which an Arizona Department of Public Safety (AZDPS) detective sat. A passenger got out of the Infinity and opened fire on the detective, who returned fire, according to a report.

“Our detectives were wearing police attires, easily identifiable as police officers. We're here simply supporting another operation going on nearby," said Capt. Jesse Galvez, FOX 10 reported.

 

A second AZDPS officer responded to the scene and assisted in apprehending the shooter. The second suspect--the driver in the Infinity--however, fled the scene and remains at large.

Neither officer, nor the shooting suspect, was injured, the AZDPS said.

"Had the trooper not had the wherewithal and the ability to quickly exit his vehicle and engage the suspect, undoubtedly, he would have been shot or killed," DPS Director Col. Heston Silbert said.

 

Luis German Espinoza Acuña (Photo Courtesy: DPS)

The shooting suspect has been identified as 17-year-old Luis German Espinoza Acuna, police said.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/arizona-trooper-phoenix-ambush-shooting-suspect-at-large

[thedutchiedutch]

This should be in the conspiracy section. Seriously  There is only one person attacking America and that is your own current president. The great divider and liar in Chief  

[lightly]

Capitalism is a bigger threat to humanity than any political or ideological belief system.  

 

 

[docyabut2]

1 hour ago, thedutchiedutch said:

This should be in the conspiracy section. Seriously  There is only one person attacking America and that is your own current president. The great divider and liar in Chief  

Trump the best president,  saving our lives and our country ,and he tells the truth about everything   

[RavenHawk]

1 hour ago, thedutchiedutch said:

This should be in the conspiracy section. Seriously  There is only one person attacking America and that is your own current president. The great divider and liar in Chief  

 

 

[bee]

1 hour ago, thedutchiedutch said:

This should be in the conspiracy section. Seriously  There is only one person attacking America and that is your own current president. The great divider and liar in Chief  

 

you cannot be for real saying that.... 

 

 

"'No Border, No Wall, No USA at All'—this is not a fringe position anymore within the Democrat party. This is a position that is embraced by a large swath of Democrat voters. This is frightening." —Dan Bongino

[bee]

10 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

There is an idea from the 1920's called 'Cultural Marxism'. The marxist thinkers of the time where puzzled that Europe seemed immune to a communist revolution. They theorised that social factors prevented the European prolatereat from rising up. These where: respect for family values, respect for the Church, and respect for government (and Monarchical) institutions. 

Their solution was Cultural Marxism; to gradually get their people into senior positions in universities, and use them to indoctrinate students to feel contempt for these three things. And to themselves become Professors, and to pass the indoctrination on. 

Hence, over the decades, these three ties that bind our society together would be weakened, paving the way for a communist revolution. 

Ever notice how - in the 1950's onward - most comedians and musicians became heavily anti-establishment, and highly critical of government and the church ? 

Then Marxism died, but Cultural Marxism - its Frankenstein Monster - carried on regardless. And it is still highly prelevant today, manifesting in everything from 3rd wave feminism to militant transgender rights, to promotion of Islam over Christianity (including by the current Pope). 

 

I've seen in articles about it that they (Marxists) were thwarted by the Working Classes who just would not be whipped up into revolutionary fervour - so they turned turned their attentions to a Coalition of Minorities - and Repressive Tolerance... where the people and culture of the host nation was put bottom of the list and the coalition of minorities were tolerated no matter what... this explains why say.... BLM can go out onto the streets to protest during Covid restrictions and the police are instructed to do nothing but a protest against lockdown rules etc are met with arrests... or when Tommy Robinson was campaigning to be an independent MEP... the police actually escorted a large group of muslims to the Family Orientated Rally and ignored them when they threw missiles at the crowd...

America and the West is definitely under attack..... from within.....  by decades of infiltration and now (with the Covid business and the psychological operation against Trump ) they are trying to go up a gear...

  
edit to add.... and they have gone up a few gears with their indoctrination through the MSM - and there is no escape from it if you are someone who watches TV.... not just the BBC but through the adverts on other channels - I can't watch the MSM news on any channel and always mute the adverts and try to ignore them - 
it's annoying knowing that you're being targeted quite calculatedly and  relentlessly... in a planned and highly organized way...

and I only watch a tiny bit of TV... mostly recorded films and stuff I'm interested in... then you can fast forward through the adverts..

 

 

 

Edited September 18, 2020 by bee

[acute]

2 hours ago, thedutchiedutch said:

There is only one person attacking America and that is your own current president. The great divider and liar in Chief  

Imagine what a mess the US (and the Western world) will be in .....if we get four more years of this Orwellian 'doublethink' administration.

[RavenHawk]

7 minutes ago, acute said:

Imagine what a mess the US (and the Western world) will be in .....if we get four more years of this Orwellian 'doublethink' administration.

 

 

[thedutchiedutch]

1 hour ago, docyabut2 said:

Trump the best president,  saving our lives and our country ,and he tells the truth about everything   

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid 

[bee]

14 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

I was considering the Liberal agenda for America and certain themes started to come to mind. 

 

just want to say that it's getting a bit confusing now when people use the term Liberal when referring to the left and extreme left...
because it's all shifted now and it's the Populists / Conservatives who are the new liberals.. and the old liberals have gone into authoritarian / repressive / intolerant territory...

IMO

 

 

[thedutchiedutch]

1 hour ago, RavenHawk said:

 

 

Loving it. Now have this pro Donald supporter teach the Donald some dance moves and compassion and we are all good 

[thedutchiedutch]

1 hour ago, bee said:

 

you cannot be for real saying that.... 

 

 

"'No Border, No Wall, No USA at All'—this is not a fringe position anymore within the Democrat party. This is a position that is embraced by a large swath of Democrat voters. This is frightening." —Dan Bongino

Correct. I am not real and i am not paying attention and i am not seeing the lies and deceiving and the dividing that this current president has started and still continues to do so today. You are right. I am living under a rock and I have no clue what is going on today. America is the laughing stock of the world today thanks to the orange commander in chief but what do I know. Keep denying and don't forget to drink the Kool-Aid before you go to bed  

Edited September 18, 2020 by thedutchiedutch

[Duke Wellington]

17 minutes ago, bee said:

just want to say that it's getting a bit confusing now when people use the term Liberal when referring to the left and extreme left...
because it's all shifted now and it's the Populists / Conservatives who are the new liberals.. and the old liberals have gone into authoritarian / repressive / intolerant territory...

IMO

The left dont believe in classical liberalism, but liberal-socialism in which there is more limited freedom.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

3 hours ago, lightly said:

Capitalism is a bigger threat to humanity than any political or ideological belief system.  

 

 

Unchecked capitalism. 
Capitalism lead to the Industrial Revolution and therefore things like modern society. Captialism unchecked by conscience will blow up sacred caves, tear down the Amazon and burn baby burn. Capitalism checked by conscience will build, and produce and evolve and do as little harm as possible while making a profit.

[docyabut2]

Drinking the Kool-Aid: Remember When Jim Jones Was a Hero to Democrats?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/drinking-the-kool-aid-remember-when-jim-jones-was-a-hero-to-democrats/

[Duke Wellington]

Guys/Gals look at yourselves here.

This is everywhere, Biden aint winning. Americans can relax, just remember to vote and make sure its counted or turn up in person and vote.

The real problems are going to start in the days after Trump wins re-election.

Edited September 18, 2020 by Cookie Monster

[RavenHawk]

1 hour ago, bee said:

 

just want to say that it's getting a bit confusing now when people use the term Liberal when referring to the left and extreme left...
because it's all shifted now and it's the Populists / Conservatives who are the new liberals.. and the old liberals have gone into authoritarian / repressive / intolerant territory...

IMO

Ideologies shift position all the time and labels don’t really keep up.  In our history in this country, the political environment has shifted at least 6 times.  The two original parties have morphed and merged through the years, changing with the needs of the time.  At some point from the middle of the last century and before, no matter the ideology of the parties, both shared the best interests of this nation and put them in the forefront.  The difference was how they would run the nation to achieve those best interests. 

Today, that is no longer the case.  One party has lost its way.  In the beginning of the 20^th Century, there was this new thought that entered into our political fabric.  One which wasn’t seen since before our Constitution was ratified.  That was Socialism (the tyranny of monarchy without the monarch).  In about 1904, Socialism briefly formed with the Bull Moose party (a radical Republican offshoot).  But it didn’t last long as Socialism was not a good match for Republicanism.  But It did find fertile soil in the Democratic party and this Progressivism has steadily grown ever since.  From Wilson to FDR to Johnson to Obama, fundamental change has been its goal.  A great country does not need fundamental change. 

Today the Left has gone far Left.  The last remaining Democrats have become Independent or Libertarians.  The extreme Right and Establishment Republicans are Socialists under a different name.  We are on the verge of a seventh party system between the American Socialist Party (including the extreme Right and Establishment Republicans) and a Conservative/Populist (including the Democrat Independent/Libertarian) Party.