UFO Battle 1665

[TrumanB]

https://ufoholic.com/forbidden-history/was-there-a-great-ufo-battle-over-sweden-in-1665/

https://www.ancient-code.com/the-mass-ufo-sighting-of-1665-hundreds-of-people-witness-massive-ufo-battle/

“After a while out of the sky came a flat round form, like a plate, looking like the big hat of a man… Its color was that of the darkening moon, and it hovered right over the Church of St. Nicolai. There it remained stationary until the evening. The fishermen, worried to death, didn’t want to look further at the spectacle and buried their faces in their hands. On the following days, they fell sick with trembling all over and pain in head and limbs,” wrote Erasmus Francisci in “Der wunder-reiche Ueberzug unserer Nider-Welt/Oder Erd-umgebende” in 1689

 

If nothing else this was an interesting read.

[Chronus]

That was very interesting,

[Hazzard]

On 9/21/2020 at 3:20 PM, Chronus said:

That was very interesting,

Yes, and found this very interesting as well.

 

Did UFOs Buzz Stralsund on April 8, 1665? http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/did-ufos-buzz-straslund-on-april-8-1665

"We have a few key facts: (1) According to all the texts the authors present, the only witnesses were six sailors on a boat. (2) No one else saw anything, despite an epic sky battle apparently occurring over a major city. (3) The sailors all came down with the physical symptoms of disease within 48 hours of witnessing the event, and indeed one had been sick from the time they returned........"

 

Edited September 23, 2020 by Hazzard

[stereologist]

That still happens today with UFO sightings. There was the UFO over Jerusalem that only one small group noticed.

[Jon the frog]

1 minute ago, stereologist said:

That still happens today with UFO sightings. There was the UFO over Jerusalem that only one small group noticed.

Did the group was using LSD at the time ?

[stereologist]

13 minutes ago, Jon the frog said:

Did the group was using LSD at the time ?

No. It was a hoax, but that did not dissuade UFO sites from promoting the hoax as the real thing.

A UFO over  a city only noticed by a group from a distance - been happening since at least 1665.

[+Hammerclaw]

Maybe it was something they ate.

Ergot

C.P. Holstege, S.A. Traven, in Encyclopedia of Toxicology (Third Edition), 2014

Exposure Standards and Guidelines

Due to the deleterious effects of ergot and ergot alkaloid exposure to animals, some countries have set exposure limits for these substances in food or feed. In the USA the tolerance level for ergot in grain is 0.3% crude ergot alkaloid. Levels of 0.1% ergot in feeds may have deleterious effects on livestock, and the effects, in the UK standards, are lower at 0.001% ergot by weight for the feed grain; however, tolerance was not found at any level of ergot in other grains.

In a rat model of ergotamine exposure and toxicity the no-observed-effect-level was 4 mg kg⁻¹ ergotamine in the diet, which was equal to 0.3 mg kg⁻¹ by weight per day of ergotamine for the rats. In ruminants a no-observed-effect-level has not been determined; however, it is thought that levels below 9 mcg kg⁻¹ by weight per day are not concerning.

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General Toxicologic Pathology

Wanda M. Haschek, ... Val R. Beasley, in Handbook of Toxicologic Pathology (Second Edition), 2002

1. Toxicoses Associated with Claviceps spp. Infection (Ergotism)

Ergot sclerotia in cereal grains and grasses (ergot does not occur in corn) are generally readily detectable by visual examination. Sclerotia in baled forages can be found by shaking several handfuls over a plastic bag and examining the chaff. However, microscopic examination of ground diets (feed microscopy) may be needed to determine the presence of ergot. Ergot alkaloids may be identified in toxicology laboratories by TLC, HPLC, or gas chromatography-mass spectrometry (GCMS).

Treatment consists of isolating animals from the source and, if appropriate, moving them to a dry, warm environment to avoid aggravation of the vascular insult. An intravenous infusion of sodium nitroprusside, a potent vasodilator, has been used to alleviate the vasoconstriction. In humans, anticoagulants, low molecular weight dextran, and nitroprusside have been used for treatment.

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Plant Poisons and Traditional Medicines

Jeffrey K. Aronson, in Manson's Tropical Infectious Diseases (Twenty-third Edition), 2014

Ergot

Ergot (Claviceps purpurea) is a fungus whose sclerotia contain ergotoxine and related alkaloids that stimulate smooth muscle. It is harvested with the ears of rye and other grasses. Chronic consumption of small amounts causes uterine and vascular contraction, resulting in abortion, arterial occlusion, and painful gangrene.¹⁰⁴ In the Middle Ages, this was called St Anthony's fire, because it was relieved by a pilgrimage to the shrine of St Anthony, in an area that was not affected by the fungus. Acute consumption of large amounts can cause headache, vertigo, hallucinations, and convulsions; the Salem witches may have been victims of this. Ergot poisoning, although easy to prevent, still occurs from careless harvesting in times of food shortage; it can also occur with deliberate hallucinogenic or abortifacient use. Vasodilators, such as sodium nitroprusside, ease ischaemic pain and help to prevent gangrene.¹⁰⁵ Derivatives of ergot are used therapeutically (e.g. bromocriptine in Parkinson's disease) and as hallucinogens (e.g. LSD).

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