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The Presidential Debates

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President Wearer of Hats
1 minute ago, bee said:

 

yes I am serious (as you also know)

you may not like it - and you might prefer to focus on the hate but Trump has genuine love and affection from millions of people...

Yes, so does baby Yoda. Doesn’t mean they’d make for a good president.

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1 minute ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Yes, so does baby Yoda. Doesn’t mean they’d make for a good president.

 

the people who love and appreciate him would disagree with your opinion... ..

 

 

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President Wearer of Hats
2 minutes ago, bee said:

 

the people who love and appreciate him would disagree with your opinion... ..

you may not like it - and you might prefer to focus on the hate but Baby Yoda has genuine love and affection from millions of people..

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Just a quick example of that love and affection....

Diamond and Silk love him to bits..

 

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1 minute ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

you may not like it - and you might prefer to focus on the hate but Baby Yoda has genuine love and affection from millions of people..


Does ANYONE hate Baby Yoda.....? 

You appear to be Baby Yoda's number One Fan so I expect you will know the answer to that,,, :D

 

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feel the love.... 

 

 

"Don't say that, I'll start to cry," President Trump says to the crowd in MI chanting "WE LOVE YOU!"

 

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President Wearer of Hats
18 minutes ago, bee said:


Does ANYONE hate Baby Yoda.....? 

You appear to be Baby Yoda's number One Fan so I expect you will know the answer to that,,, :D

 

Well.... Moff Gideon didn’t seem to like him....

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President Wearer of Hats
13 minutes ago, bee said:

 

feel the love.... 

 

 

"Don't say that, I'll start to cry," President Trump says to the crowd in MI chanting "WE LOVE YOU!"

 

People screaming ‘I love you’ at politicians scare me, not fill me with a feeling of love.

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Just now, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

People screaming ‘I love you’ at politicians scare me, not fill me with a feeling of love.


they really do love him.... what's wrong with that...?

I am more scared of the outpouring of hate towards him from people who have been Mind Controlled by the MSM ...

That is really screwing them (the haters) up on a spiritual level...... 

When I watched the clip of the crowd chanting 'we love you'...... I could FEEL it was genuine and based in something good and true and pure... I got a kundalini rush (if you know what that means or feels like) and that's what connected me to that emotional outpouring from the crowd... and knowing it was genuine and powerful...

 

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Tatetopa
1 hour ago, bee said:

we had our big election back in December 2019... yours is coming up in a few days... hence my comment -

I don't call taking an interest and forming an opinion and writing a few words on a forum 'working hard' ..... more of a hobby :) 

as for the rest of your post - I snipped it because it's the usual Turn Everything Around and present it as an Argument  thing that you do...

 

Hi bee.  Thanks for taking an interest.  Yes I turn things around because I want you to see that there are two sides to every story,   Do you want to give up your health care to fight global communist dominion?  It seems like you are a lot closer to being taken over than the USA is. Are you active in your countries politics?

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2 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Hi bee.  Thanks for taking an interest.  Yes I turn things around because I want you to see that there are two sides to every story,   Do you want to give up your health care to fight global communist dominion?  It seems like you are a lot closer to being taken over than the USA is. Are you active in your countries politics?

 

I've got a bit of eyestrain at the mo.... but I might come back to this - I have to rest my eyes now because there's a live art programme that I want to join in with a bit later... Portrait Artist of the Week... so toodle pip for now...

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President Wearer of Hats
13 minutes ago, bee said:


they really do love him.... what's wrong with that...?

I am more scared of the outpouring of hate towards him from people who have been Mind Controlled by the MSM ...

That is really screwing them (the haters) up on a spiritual level...... 

When I watched the clip of the crowd chanting 'we love you'...... I could FEEL it was genuine and based in something good and true and pure... I got a kundalini rush (if you know what that means or feels like) and that's what connected me to that emotional outpouring from the crowd... and knowing it was genuine and powerful...

 

Ask yourself this - if people were screaming “we love you!” at Obama or Joe, what would you say?

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Tatetopa
55 minutes ago, bee said:

I've got a bit of eyestrain at the mo.... but I might come back to this - I have to rest my eyes now because there's a live art programme that I want to join in with a bit later... Portrait Artist of the Week... so toodle pip for now...

Well bee, that sounds worthwhile I can say with sincerity.  Our back and forth can wait until later.   Besides, we will not really change each other's minds will we?

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DieChecker
10 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

While I would agree this happens, there is proof that this the case in the current situation we are discussing. But I suspect this a situation we will not be able to prove one way or the other.

I'd agree. One thing is a fact though. Those who took custody of the children did a horrendously bad job of keeping records. In part that's why we still have the 500+ in process. Because it had to go to going to Honduras(or wherever), and going door to door, to try to get anywhere at all.

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DieChecker
3 hours ago, bee said:


they really do love him.... what's wrong with that...?

I am more scared of the outpouring of hate towards him from people who have been Mind Controlled by the MSM ...

That is really screwing them (the haters) up on a spiritual level...... 

When I watched the clip of the crowd chanting 'we love you'...... I could FEEL it was genuine and based in something good and true and pure... I got a kundalini rush (if you know what that means or feels like) and that's what connected me to that emotional outpouring from the crowd... and knowing it was genuine and powerful...

 

Hate... Powerful it is... of the Dark side... Yes.

Yet we have the Media cheering on the hate. Its like CNN is run by the Sith.

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11 hours ago, the13bats said:

"True or false" is too pigeon holeing, its not that quick as answer

 

11 hours ago, skliss said:

My plethora of cousins were all born into democratic families and they are all voting Republican. They said their parents and our grandparents wouldn't recognize these democrats.

No 'rule' is cut and dried.  Just wondered.  I wonder about things.  I wonder why people believe what they do.  Religion, Politics, Societal issues...people have such opposing views on things.  One of my wondering discoveries is that people are born into many of their beliefs.  Not everyone...not you, but many.  

Is Trump the kind of person I would want to emulate?  Not really.  Is Biden?  Not really.  I am the kind of person I would want to emulate.  So...as we were all told in the Clinton years...Character doesn't matter...it's what you accomplish.  Trump has a big mouth and he knows how to use it.  But he has also accomplished a considerable amount of things that the people who voted for him  wanted to be accomplished. 

Here is the thing.  People want things done.  Politicians always promise they will do whatever it is the people are all clamoring about.  None ever do.  But many of us believed that Trump would and could because he has an incredible track record of doing just that.  And so he did what some us wanted.  Politicians placate.  Trump isn't a politician.  He is a fighter and a damn good one.  And...I think he is fighting for what he believes in...Capitalism.   That's all a lot of us wanted.  An awful lot of us don't want America to become a Socialist Country.   The Media wants it to be one.  The Democrats seem to want it to be one.  The Rest of the World seems to want it to be one.  

I don't really care about Politics either to be quite honest.  There is one party.  The Washington Party.  ...and then there are us and I'll be damned if I'm going to be led around by my nose with a carrot by CNN or Fox news or the NYT or ABC or NBC or Aljazzera or any of the rest.   We are  living in the 1984  template now more than we ever have been before.  I'm just not playing.   I know what I want out of my government.  I wanted to build a wall from Brownsville to Tijuana long before Trump ever decided to run for potus. I didn't like that Obama preached Single Payer  but in front of the American people lied to our face about his plan to revamp Health Care.  

The thing I like most about Trump is that he is a fighter...he knows how to accomplish things...and he doesn't let anyone bully him.   I personally think that is something  we need right now.   Whether you like him or not is of no consequence to me whatsoever.  We all have our own personal reasons for our perspectives.

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20 hours ago, joc said:

Where did you get that information?  Media?

I am a  Capitalist...I own a small business..I have no power except in my own little world.  The Rich have always run the world..nothing new there.  Nothing new here.

Don't you see... d i v i s i o n .....the rich against the not rich.  Media sells it.  You buy it.  See how that works?  At every level...races vs races...gay vs straight...Dems vs Repups...at every facet of our society we are divided...and who does that?  Media.

Yes, History repeats itself...the rich have always run the world. ..and eventually wealth/power is controlled/owned by fewer and fewer ... (the main danger of capitalism) Who become so powerful that they take serious advantage of the rest of us..( like now).  ....Until, we get fed up enough to storm the castle.   Sometimes ,at that point 'negotiations' cause a 'Reset' of the social system.           

Who do you think owns and controls Media ??       the poor?  No, the Rich do.   And in fact I do Not buy the messages they force upon us.    Your right about the purposeful sowing of Divisions between us.     And yes , I see it, and I see how it works. 

To their advantage !

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the13bats
9 hours ago, joc said:

 

No 'rule' is cut and dried.  Just wondered.  I wonder about things.  I wonder why people believe what they do.  Religion, Politics, Societal issues...people have such opposing views on things.  One of my wondering discoveries is that people are born into many of their beliefs.  Not everyone...not you, but many.  

Is Trump the kind of person I would want to emulate?  Not really.  Is Biden?  Not really.  I am the kind of person I would want to emulate.  So...as we were all told in the Clinton years...Character doesn't matter...it's what you accomplish.  Trump has a big mouth and he knows how to use it.  But he has also accomplished a considerable amount of things that the people who voted for him  wanted to be accomplished. 

Here is the thing.  People want things done.  Politicians always promise they will do whatever it is the people are all clamoring about.  None ever do.  But many of us believed that Trump would and could because he has an incredible track record of doing just that.  And so he did what some us wanted.  Politicians placate.  Trump isn't a politician.  He is a fighter and a damn good one.  And...I think he is fighting for what he believes in...Capitalism.   That's all a lot of us wanted.  An awful lot of us don't want America to become a Socialist Country.   The Media wants it to be one.  The Democrats seem to want it to be one.  The Rest of the World seems to want it to be one.  

I don't really care about Politics either to be quite honest.  There is one party.  The Washington Party.  ...and then there are us and I'll be damned if I'm going to be led around by my nose with a carrot by CNN or Fox news or the NYT or ABC or NBC or Aljazzera or any of the rest.   We are  living in the 1984  template now more than we ever have been before.  I'm just not playing.   I know what I want out of my government.  I wanted to build a wall from Brownsville to Tijuana long before Trump ever decided to run for potus. I didn't like that Obama preached Single Payer  but in front of the American people lied to our face about his plan to revamp Health Care.  

The thing I like most about Trump is that he is a fighter...he knows how to accomplish things...and he doesn't let anyone bully him.   I personally think that is something  we need right now.   Whether you like him or not is of no consequence to me whatsoever.  We all have our own personal reasons for our perspectives.

My opinions keep you coming back at me, your opinions are fine with me.

Tbis all means something to you, not to me, have a good one.

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Tatetopa
22 hours ago, joc said:

Just to clarify...the same people who are voting for Biden are the one's who were born into a Democrat family.  The same people who are voting for Trump are the one's who were born into a Republican family.

I was born into a staunch Christian Republican Texas family and I would sure consider voting for a Republican if there was one running.

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Hankenhunter
16 hours ago, bee said:

 

Trump has the kind of genuine love and affection from many millions of people in America and World Wide (including myself) that the likes of Biden can only dream of.... 

 

Whooee, thanks for the best laugh I've had in days. Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder.:lol:

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15 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Ask yourself this - if people were screaming “we love you!” at Obama or Joe, what would you say?

IIRC, a lot of people DID act that way for Obama.  I don't recall anyone making an issue of it at the time but maybe I missed it.

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President Wearer of Hats
4 minutes ago, and then said:

IIRC, a lot of people DID act that way for Obama.  I don't recall anyone making an issue of it at the time but maybe I missed it.

If that’s true it’s just as scary. MORE scary even if no one reported on it. 

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Hankenhunter
10 minutes ago, and then said:

IIRC, a lot of people DID act that way for Obama.  I don't recall anyone making an issue of it at the time but maybe I missed it.

You recall wrong, as usual. Show some proof for a change. Your recall is suspicious at best. Trumpers are drooling slack jawed morons who'd vote for a fence post if republican was stamped on it. They love Trump because he panders to the worst in them. He allows their ids free reign. 

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33 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

If that’s true it’s just as scary. MORE scary even if no one reported on it. 

They reported on it...the media thought it was fantastic...in fact they were the ones most in love with him. Chris Matthews even  got "a tingle down his leg".

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Hankenhunter
2 minutes ago, skliss said:

They reported on it...the media thought it was fantastic...in fact they were the ones most in love with him. Chris Matthews even  got "a tingle down his leg".

Citation please. Did Obama get anywhere near the coverage that Trump* got? The coverage that gave him a win? Another disingenuous post by a disingenuous poster.

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