Vorg Posted September 26, 2020 #126 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Well now they have released some body cam footage, but it was after the shots were fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroundthecorner Posted September 26, 2020 #127 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Facts matter not the rantings of a paid mob, sad she got caught in the cross fire but the partner was a bad dude' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 26, 2020 #128 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, South Alabam said: Well now they have released some body cam footage, but it was after the shots were fired. It's a really short clip that shows Mattingly after he was shot. It's not really graphic. Can't really see anything. Edited September 26, 2020 by susieice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted September 26, 2020 #129 Share Posted September 26, 2020 https://www.whas11.com/article/news/investigations/breonna-taylor-case/breonna-taylor-decision-no-knock-warrant-louisville-officers-announced-attorney-general/417-7dd8174f-53f1-4af6-8baf-c36eb4bd7cc1 According to the AG, the warrant was applied for as no knock. But the judge that signed it turned it into a knock and identify warrant. The officers were told when they got there it was knock and identify. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted September 26, 2020 #130 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Looks to me like possibly it was Mr Walker's lawyer who first claimed it was a no knock warrant... https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/attorneys-claim-lmpd-officers-killed-26-year-old-emt-in-botched-police-raid/article_4bb33de6-704e-11ea-bb3c-4785530c8830.html Quote But an attorney for Kenneth Walker claims police conducted an improper raid, which led to officers shooting an innocent woman eight times, killing her. The woman, 26-year-old Breonna Taylor, was a certified EMT working at two local hospitals. Defense attorney Rob Eggert said police burst in Taylor's home without announcing their presence and fired at least 22 times, with bullets going into neighboring apartments, and “it was incredible that Mrs. Taylor was the only one killed.” Maybe there is an earlier source of this then March 28? I only looked through 4 pages of Google results, so there could be earlier reporting saying it was no knock. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted September 26, 2020 #131 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) Just to clear up a few key facts that seem to still be in dispute with some posters. Just FYI the Courier Journal is a left leaning news org. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/breonna-taylor/2020/09/23/minute-by-minute-timeline-breonna-taylor-shooting/3467112001/ Quote 12:40 a.m.: Officers were in place outside of Taylor's apartment and began to knock on the door. After a few knocks, Mattingly said, they began to identify themselves as police. This has been in dispute, but AFAIK, it was Walker and his lawyer who have been saying there wasn't a knock, or identification as police. But then why did they get woken up? A no knock would have had officers inside in seconds. Yet they didn't come in for a few minutes. Quote The knocking startles Taylor and Walker out of bed, and they began yelling out, asking who is there, Walker said. They don't hear a response. Quote They left the bedroom and hadn't made it down the hallway... Both of them were in the hallway. No one was shot in bed. I'm going to see if I can find where that started. Quote After about a minute and hearing no response from inside, police use a battering ram to knock in the front door. Appears they didn't struggle opening the door. They simply were waiting to see if they would open the door. Quote 12:43 a.m.: Officers on scene call dispatch to report an officer had been shot. Officials say this was the shot Walker fired. Taylor is struck in the return fire by police. 12:47 a.m.: Walker calls 911 and says, "Somebody kicked in the door and shot my girlfriend." This is interesting in that the police reported shots and an officer hit, but they don't continue the arrest? Four minutes later Walker is calling 911? Quote Police Chief Steve Conrad says no body-camera footage exists of the shooting. This is pure stupid. If the department had cams, they should be using them on high risk ventures like this. A lot of the speculation and outright made up stories could have been curtailed by camera footage. Edited September 26, 2020 by DieChecker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted September 26, 2020 #132 Share Posted September 26, 2020 An interesting debunk of some of the made up stuff spread around to insite anger... https://www.savannahnow.com/news/20200924/fact-checking-8-myths-in-breonna-taylor-case-was-she-asleep-when-police-shot-her-is-there-body-cam-footage?template=ampart#aoh=16011387782124&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From %1%24s Quote Claim: Police were at the wrong apartment Ben Crump, a Florida-based attorney involved with the Taylor case, wrote on Twitter on May 11 that police "had the wrong address AND their real suspect was already in custody." This was pretty commonly reported for a short while. Some people are still saying it. Quote Claim: Taylor was shot while she was asleep in bed Various social media posts and media reports have said Louisville police gunned down Taylor as she was asleep in bed. its very clear this isn't true. Quote Claim: Taylor was living with a drug dealer Several social media posts have accused Taylor of living with a drug dealer, insinuating that is why police had targeted her place for a search warrant in their narcotics investigation. It's now pretty clear that no one other then Glover, the ex boyfriend, was a drug dealer. Quote Claim: The officer who was shot was hit by friendly fire The claim gained traction after national criminal justice reform activist Shaun King tweeted May 14 that, "It is now believed that the police officer who got shot in the leg in the shooting of Breonna Taylor was shot by 'friendly fire' from his own officers. Dude just made this up, and the media ran with it. Sigh... Quote Claim: Taylor was shot eight times by police In the civil lawsuit filed in April against the LMPD officers who fired their weapons and killed Taylor, attorneys for her family wrote that she was "shot at least eight times by the officers' gunfire and died as a result." Since then, it has been widely reported, including in The Courier Journal, that Taylor was shot eight times. Coroner's report says she was hit by six bullets. Yet more examples of the Media either going off rumors as fact, or taking stuff someone, usually a lawyer with clear willingness and reason to out and out lie, put out on their own, and again portraying it as fact. The "shot in bed asleep", alone probably motivated half the rioters. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted September 26, 2020 #133 Share Posted September 26, 2020 They obviously have body cam footage now. Let's see them knocking to erase all doubt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 26, 2020 #134 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, DieChecker said: An interesting debunk of some of the made up stuff spread around to insite anger... https://www.savannahnow.com/news/20200924/fact-checking-8-myths-in-breonna-taylor-case-was-she-asleep-when-police-shot-her-is-there-body-cam-footage?template=ampart#aoh=16011387782124&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From %1%24s This was pretty commonly reported for a short while. Some people are still saying it. its very clear this isn't true. It's now pretty clear that no one other then Glover, the ex boyfriend, was a drug dealer. Dude just made this up, and the media ran with it. Sigh... Coroner's report says she was hit by six bullets. Yet more examples of the Media either going off rumors as fact, or taking stuff someone, usually a lawyer with clear willingness and reason to out and out lie, put out on their own, and again portraying it as fact. The "shot in bed asleep", alone probably motivated half the rioters. This story was so twisted by the media for effect and still is. Especially TV media. No one lies more than they do to fit their purposes. If they release those Grand Jury transcripts, and I think they should, reporters will still lie about it because they know most people won't read anything or follow up. Their words will be taken as gospel truth. Edited September 26, 2020 by susieice 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 27, 2020 #135 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Sole Witness Who Heard Cops Announce Themselves in Breonna Taylor Raid Changed His Story Quote In that justification, he said that one witness corroborated the three officers’ insistence that they knocked and identified themselves at Taylor’s Louisville home while executing a search warrant in connection with a narcotics investigation. It contradicted claims from Taylor’s boyfriend, Kenny Walker, and 11 other residents, who said they didn’t hear the cops announce themselves. Instead, Walker thought he was being burglarized and fired a warning shot that triggered a tragic chain of events. But, according to documents and audio obtained by VICE News on Saturday, that sole witness initially told investigators days after the March 13 raid that he didn’t actually hear officers Brett Hankison, Jonathan Mattingly, and Myles Cosgrove announce themselves. The witness—identified by VICE as Aarin Sarpee but by other outlets and public records as Aaron Julue Sarpee—was picking up his daughter from a unit above Taylor’s when the raid took place. It wasn’t until he was interviewed a second time, about two months after the raid by a sergeant in LMPD’s Public Integrity Unit, that Sarpee said he heard police say, “This is the cops.” https://www.yahoo.com/news/sole-witness-heard-cops-announce-215316031.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted September 27, 2020 #136 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, aztek said: Sole Witness Who Heard Cops Announce Themselves in Breonna Taylor Raid Changed His Story https://www.yahoo.com/news/sole-witness-heard-cops-announce-215316031.html These Police might have knocked and then all guilt goes to the shooter inside the house. Or they may have not knocked and this guy had a right to defend himself, thinking there were intruders. Eleven witnesses saying they did not knock, and now the sole witness saying they did not knock is also damning. If they did not knock they will not release body camera footage because supposedly they were not signed off for a no knock raid. Maybe that is why charges have been dropped against Walker for attempted murder of a Police Officer. They know body camera footage would be called into evidence exposing that they did indeed not knock on a raid they were supposed to announce.. And it is weird charges would be dropped if they had body camera evidence. Either way, things smell fishy. I'm not anti Police, just anti Police corruption. They need to follow the laws they enforce, or get new jobs. Edited September 27, 2020 by South Alabam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted September 27, 2020 #137 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, South Alabam said: ....and now the sole witness saying they did not knock is also damning. I thought that was the other way round. He initially didn't report them announcing themselves, but a month later said he remembered them yelling that it was the cops knocking. Quote If they did not knock they will not release body camera footage because supposedly they were not signed off for a no knock raid. Supposedly the detectives had no cameras, but I've read that some of the officers, 4 total were there, I believe, DID have cameras, but might not have been on. Pics of the officers taken a couple hours later show at least one had a body camera. Quote Maybe that is why charges have been dropped against Walker for attempted murder of a Police Officer. They know body camera footage would be called into evidence exposing that they did indeed not knock on a raid they were supposed to announce.. And it is weird charges would be dropped if they had body camera evidence. Either way, things smell fishy. Agree, we're not getting the whole truth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 27, 2020 #138 Share Posted September 27, 2020 i'm surprised how testimony of 11 witnesses are ignored over a testimony of 1 who was 1 floor above at a time and changed the story. clearly bias is involved here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 27, 2020 #139 Share Posted September 27, 2020 15 hours ago, DieChecker said: Agree, we're not getting the whole truth. Remember the black jogger who got shot there was corruption of LEO in that case, there are blunders in this OP case and the city paid off but they want to keep the spotlight off their fails, at least my guess. Perhaps the full story will come up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 27, 2020 #140 Share Posted September 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, the13bats said: Remember the black jogger who got shot there was corruption of LEO in that case,........... really ,how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 27, 2020 #141 Share Posted September 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, aztek said: really ,how? Go look it up, it was widely reported Heres one of countless reports, on what im guessing is a source you respect, https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-police-department-ahmaud-arbery-murder-disturbing-history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 27, 2020 #142 Share Posted September 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, the13bats said: Go look it up, it was widely reported Heres one of countless reports, on what im guessing is a source you respect, https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-police-department-ahmaud-arbery-murder-disturbing-history so? pretty much every police dept is corrupt in one way or another, but i do not see anything in the article that points to corruption in this case. not finishing safety course in 2014 has nothing to do with the case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 27, 2020 #143 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, aztek said: so? pretty much every police dept is corrupt in one way or another, but i do not see anything in the article that points to corruption in this case. not finishing safety course in 2014 has nothing to do with the case Okay, i knew you would see it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 28, 2020 #144 Share Posted September 28, 2020 why wouldn't i see it the way evidence supports it? better question why do you see what is not backed by evidence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 28, 2020 #145 Share Posted September 28, 2020 New Body Camera Footage Contradicts Claims Made By Police About Breonna Taylor's Death https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/body-camera-footage-contradicts-claims-183340986.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted September 28, 2020 #146 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, aztek said: New Body Camera Footage Contradicts Claims Made By Police About Breonna Taylor's Death https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/body-camera-footage-contradicts-claims-183340986.html Not surprising. Police will always cover their crimes. Think about the number of times you hear Police apologize for doing something wrong. Never. Edited September 28, 2020 by South Alabam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted September 29, 2020 #147 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, South Alabam said: Not surprising. Police will always cover their crimes. Think about the number of times you hear Police apologize for doing something wrong. Never. Current example: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/sheriff-who-starred-on-live-pd-charged-with-evidence-tampering-in-black-man-s-death/ar-BB19vJ91?ocid=msedgdhp Sheriff who starred on 'Live PD' charged with evidence tampering in Black man's death Williamson County Sheriff Robert Chody is accused of destroying or concealing audio and video footage that showed his deputies pursuing and using force on Javier Ambler, 40, in March 2019, according to an indictment. The footage was captured by Live PD cameras on the night that Ambler, a former postal worker and the father of two, died following a 22-minute car chase by Williamson County deputies. Ambler’s death – and the questions over the destroyed "Live PD" footage – ignited a controversy that led to the cancellation of the hit A&E show in June. Former Williamson County general counsel Jason Nassour is also accused of destroying the recordings “with intent to impair their ability as evidence” in the investigation of Ambler’s death. The brotherhood in action covering their own crimes. Edited September 29, 2020 by South Alabam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted September 29, 2020 #148 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 2:59 PM, Hawken said: Stats show that more whites get killed by cops than black. The media will only report on blacks thus making it look blacks are the only targets. Selective Reporting. I distinctly remember the killing of Justine Damond was reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 29, 2020 #149 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Golden Duck said: I distinctly remember the killing of Justine Damond was reported. That cop was convicted of murder but only got 12 1/2 yrs. https://www.npr.org/2019/06/07/730691678/ex-minneapolis-officer-sentenced-to-12-1-2-years-in-death-of-unarmed-911-caller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted September 29, 2020 #150 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, susieice said: That cop was convicted of murder but only got 12 1/2 yrs. https://www.npr.org/2019/06/07/730691678/ex-minneapolis-officer-sentenced-to-12-1-2-years-in-death-of-unarmed-911-caller Yes. It hardly supports the conjecture of what the media "only" reports. It raises the apprehension that it's more of a case of selective memory rather than selective reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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