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Breonna Taylor case

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Buzz_Light_Year
33 minutes ago, aztek said:

i find it hard to believe that cops who execute no knock warrant at 1am would let anyone be close enough to them to see what they are doing exactly, ,   but in any case cops now wear body cams, would not be hard to  see the whole incident,   but they won't release it unlike other videos that prove their innocence that are released next day. 

 

you mean no knock warrant? they way they do it here, yes. blame their tactics not people protecting their home. 

https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/kentucky-ag-breonna-taylor-cops-knocked-and-announced-themselves/

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The Louisville police officers involved in Breonna Taylor’s shooting death “knocked and announced” themselves — and did not execute a “no-knock warrant” as previously believed, Kentucky’s attorney general said Wednesday.

At a press conference, AG Daniel Cameron said a neighbor corroborated cops’ claims that they knocked on Taylor’s apartment door and announced themselves as police in the early hours of March 13.

“Evidence showed officers knocked and announced their presence at the apartment,” Cameron said, following the announcement from a grand jury to indict one of the officers, Brett Hankison, on three counts of wanton endangerment in the first degree for firing his weapon into another apartment.

Cameron also defended two other officers involved — Detective Myles Cosgrove and Sgt. Jonathan Mattingly — saying they were first shot at by Taylor’s boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, before returning fire.

 

It should also be noted that the residence was an apartment complex not a house so the rounds fired probably just went through the wall into the next apartment.

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aztek

wow, so they changed the story now, now it was not a no knock warrant, lol 

they found no drugs, or money in the house, her bf had no reason to shot at cops knowing they will find nothing, (if he ever had anything at all)  his story, of shooting at perceived intruders makes more and more sense.   i'll believe him over changing police stories any day.   that is exactly why imo he was not charged, cuz jury would believe him over cops, and find him innocent, the DA did not want a loss on his record,

 

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aztek
10 minutes ago, quillius said:

my mindset? I believe in law and order....a civilised world.....one where criminals are not idolised.....one where people follow the law

yes your mindset,  that believes  authorities can do no wrong,  and people have no right to defend themselves and should just let police kill them,   

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quillius
2 minutes ago, aztek said:

yes your mindset,  that believes  authorities can do no wrong,  and people have no right to defend themselves and should just let police kill them,   

then you know little about my mindset........

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aztek
Just now, quillius said:

then you know little about my mindset........

i see what you show, 

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quillius
Just now, aztek said:

i see what you show, 

interpretation 

 

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Myles

Does a "no knock warrant" require that the police do not knock or is it just an option?  

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aztek
17 minutes ago, Myles said:

Does a "no knock warrant" require that the police do not knock or is it just an option?  

the whole idea is to bust the door and come in quick before one can destroy an evidence or call someone. announcing who they are defeats the purpose.  

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Myles
2 minutes ago, aztek said:

the hole idea is to bust the door and come in quick before one can destroy an evidence or call someone. announcing who they are defeats the purpose.  

Yeah, but perhaps they get no knock warrants so they have the option if the situation is different.  

My guess is they got to the apartment and all was dark so they decided to Knock, announce themselves and push in the door.  Walker started shooting and hit a cop pretty seriously.   The cops saw a dark figure in the hall and thought it was the shooter and proceeded to fire.  At least 1 cop shot wildly.  

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aztek
22 minutes ago, Myles said:

Yeah, but perhaps they get no knock warrants so they have the option if the situation is different.  

My guess is they got to the apartment and all was dark so they decided to Knock, announce themselves and push in the door.  Walker started shooting and hit a cop pretty seriously.   The cops saw a dark figure in the hall and thought it was the shooter and proceeded to fire.  At least 1 cop shot wildly.  

i'm sure hey had flashlights,  they shot thru the closed door, not at the dark figure in a hall afaik,

i'm sure all details are available on bodycam footage, but they wont release it, nor they would charge a person who shot a cop, and allegedly was a drug dealer, (boy cam video would have to be shown during trials) that alone is telling enough, oh and they found nothing in the appt.

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Hawken
5 hours ago, Setton said:

What do you think people mean when they say 'defund the police'?

Now they are saying, Abolish the police. Such as Colin Kaepernick.

https://www.kron4.com/news/colin-kaepernick-calls-to-abolish-the-police-after-breonna-taylor-decision/

 

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susieice
18 minutes ago, aztek said:

i'm sure hey had flashlights,  they shot thru the closed door, not at the dark figure in a hall afaik,

i'm sure all details are available on bodycam footage, but they wont release it, nor they would charge a person who shot a cop, and allegedly was a drug dealer, (boy cam video would have to be shown during trials) that alone is telling enough, oh and they found nothing in the appt.

The door was open when the two officers fired. It was the one in the back firing blind and he was charged for that. Walker wasn't accused of being a drug dealer. Glover was. The police weren't there for Breonna's relationship with Walker. They didn't even know he was there. Glover was picked up in one of the other houses that was raided. So yes, he kind of was in custody. 

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docyabut2

 What's sad in Louisville, KY, before that report of the cops case came in , trucks came in with loads of signs and supplies  to the protesters. Like the riots were already planned out to loot and burn down the city:(

A video shows protesters taking shields, signs and other supplies from the back of a U-Haul truck in Louisville, Ky.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/sep/24/facebook-posts/fact-checking-disinformation-about-louisville-u-ha/

  

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aztek

you are right, riots would happen regardless, even if all were charged,  she is not the reason for riots, but an excuse

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South Alabam

https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/kentucky-ag-breonna-taylor-cops-knocked-and-announced-themselves/

At a press conference, AG Daniel Cameron said a neighbor corroborated cops’ claims that they knocked on Taylor’s apartment door and announced themselves as police in the early hours of March 13.

“Evidence showed officers knocked and announced their presence at the apartment,” Cameron said, following the announcement from a grand jury to indict one of the officers, Brett Hankison, on three counts of wanton endangerment in the first degree for firing his weapon into another apartment.

 

So they found a neighbor who collaborated their story that they knocked and announced their presence? Who cares what a neighbor, or the Police say? Several other neighbors say they did not.

Let's see the body camera footage from several plain clothes officer's who were at that door showing they knocked, then I'll believe it. Some of those Officer's were known to wear body cameras even in plain clothes as proven by other cases. But they are refusing to release any of these from any officer who were present prior, or after the incident.

 

No, Police look out for themselves and will change stories, falsify reports, edit, delete, or refuse to give body cam or Police cruiser footage etc.. whatever it takes to cover their crimes. Anyone who thinks Police hold themselves to the Highest standards needs to look at all types of Police misconduct on You-tube. Thousands of videos of the lowest standards.

Now it wasn't a "no knock" warrant after all these months. A no knock warrant would more than likely allow the suspect who shot at Police to walk free, and they won't have any of that. So let's see how the warrant the judge signed off on was written up.

 

 

 

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docyabut2

That link might be wrong, but I saw on the news that video of a truck deliverer to protesters did happen,before that case was reported of the results of the case  

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susieice

There was a lot of evidence showing Breonna was involved with Glover. I agree the Grand Jury transcript should be released but the family may not like what they hear.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/breonna-taylors-family-demands-release-transcripts-grand-jury/story?id=73237782

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aztek
38 minutes ago, susieice said:

There was a lot of evidence showing Breonna was involved with Glover. I agree the Grand Jury transcript should be released but the family may not like what they hear.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/breonna-taylors-family-demands-release-transcripts-grand-jury/story?id=73237782

it does not matter who she was involved with, it is not about her, but police misconduct,  criminal recklessness, and endangering innocents,  what if it was not breonna who got killed, but her sister or her child who was in the app at the time,  would would you say then. 

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docyabut2

It is sad about Breonna`s  death, but have to agree it was her boyfriend`s fault ,his responsibility in the first shooting and he should be charged.  

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aztek
9 hours ago, susieice said:

The door was open when the two officers fired.

interesting detail, who opened the door?  did her bf opened the door and shot at cops? prbly not, did cops were busting the door down while he was shooting? more likely. did the cops busted down door after the shooting of brianna or before?  that would be very important detail,  a game changer, no wonder cops do not release bodycam video,

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susieice
2 hours ago, aztek said:

it does not matter who she was involved with, it is not about her, but police misconduct,  criminal recklessness, and endangering innocents,  what if it was not breonna who got killed, but her sister or her child who was in the app at the time,  would would you say then. 

You keep insisting her sister and a child she took care of were in the apt. They were not. The sister was in California visiting and the child wasn't hers. It was her Godchild who only spent a few nights a week with her. If you read anything you'd know this. Police expected her to be there alone. They didn't know Walker was with her. What she was involved in is exactly what got her apt raided. Walker was the one who wasn't involved. He said he didn't know it was cops and thought Glover was trying to break the door in and he was protecting her from him. You really need to read what's being linked here. Your story is messed up. I'll post this one last time. And read the whole thing. It's long and tells the whole story.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/breonna-taylor-police-killing.html

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susieice
11 minutes ago, aztek said:

interesting detail, who opened the door?  did her bf opened the door and shot at cops? prbly not, did cops were busting the door down while he was shooting? more likely. did the cops busted down door after the shooting of brianna or before?  that would be very important detail,  a game changer, no wonder cops do not release bodycam video,

The cops did break the door in. Breonna wasn't answering and yes, they saw them in the hallway and Walker was pointing a gun at them. You just have an attitude. Oh well.

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susieice
37 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

It is sad about Breonna`s  death, but have to agree it was her boyfriend`s fault ,his responsibility in the first shooting and he should be charged.  

It really isn't her boyfriend's fault. He thought the drug dealing ex was trying to break in and he was protecting her which is his right to do. That's why he wasn't charged. Walker wasn't involved in any of the drug activity. No where do police say he was. 

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glorybebe

We are supposed to believe those dirty,  rotten evil police are out to kill who ever they can  Yet, if evidence is released to prove there were previous investigations, including a dead man in a rented car, and stolen drugs from her employment. Neighbour's testimony is released they heard the police announce who they were. But it is all hockum.  :blink:

If you associate with criminals and engage in criminal activity, chances are you are going to have a reckoning.  She put herself in a situation where there was danger.  Again, no she didn't deserve to die, but the situation arose because SHE made bad choices that brought the police to her door.  Why can't she be responsible for her own actions?

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susieice
12 minutes ago, glorybebe said:

We are supposed to believe those dirty,  rotten evil police are out to kill who ever they can  Yet, if evidence is released to prove there were previous investigations, including a dead man in a rented car, and stolen drugs from her employment. Neighbour's testimony is released they heard the police announce who they were. But it is all hockum.  :blink:

If you associate with criminals and engage in criminal activity, chances are you are going to have a reckoning.  She put herself in a situation where there was danger.  Again, no she didn't deserve to die, but the situation arose because SHE made bad choices that brought the police to her door.  Why can't she be responsible for her own actions?

She had a good guy with Walker. Everything in that article about him was good including how much her family liked him and felt he was good for her. She would have been just fine. Why she did all that stuff to help Glover I just don't understand. It sounds like in the last month she had broken away from him and was sticking with Walker but she was way too far involved with what Glover was doing. Walker said he really thought it was Glover breaking down the door and he was ready to protect her. Then after all the raids were over and Glover was in custody, the only thing he could think about was that she had his money. Thousands. Police said they did not find any money or drugs in the apt. Maybe she had stuck it somewhere. IDK. Why, oh why do women do things like this for these men? If anything, she put Walker in danger.

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