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South Alabam

Well now they have released some body cam footage, but it was after the shots were fired.

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Aroundthecorner

Facts matter not the rantings of a paid mob, sad she got caught in the cross fire but the partner was a bad dude'

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susieice
1 hour ago, South Alabam said:

Well now they have released some body cam footage, but it was after the shots were fired.

It's a really short clip that shows Mattingly after he was shot. It's not really graphic. Can't really see anything.

 

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DieChecker

https://www.whas11.com/article/news/investigations/breonna-taylor-case/breonna-taylor-decision-no-knock-warrant-louisville-officers-announced-attorney-general/417-7dd8174f-53f1-4af6-8baf-c36eb4bd7cc1

According to the AG, the warrant was applied for as no knock. But the judge that signed it turned it into a knock and identify warrant. The officers were told when they got there it was knock and identify.

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DieChecker

Looks to me like possibly it was Mr Walker's lawyer who first claimed it was a no knock warrant...

https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/attorneys-claim-lmpd-officers-killed-26-year-old-emt-in-botched-police-raid/article_4bb33de6-704e-11ea-bb3c-4785530c8830.html

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But an attorney for Kenneth Walker claims police conducted an improper raid, which led to officers shooting an innocent woman eight times, killing her. The woman, 26-year-old Breonna Taylor, was a certified EMT working at two local hospitals.

Defense attorney Rob Eggert said police burst in Taylor's home without announcing their presence and fired at least 22 times, with bullets going into neighboring apartments, and “it was incredible that Mrs. Taylor was the only one killed.”

Maybe there is an earlier source of this then March 28? I only looked through 4 pages of Google results, so there could be earlier reporting saying it was no knock.

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DieChecker

Just to clear up a few key facts that seem to still be in dispute with some posters. 

Just FYI the Courier Journal is a left leaning news org.

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/breonna-taylor/2020/09/23/minute-by-minute-timeline-breonna-taylor-shooting/3467112001/

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12:40 a.m.: Officers were in place outside of Taylor's apartment and began to knock on the door. After a few knocks, Mattingly said, they began to identify themselves as police.

This has been in dispute, but AFAIK, it was Walker and his lawyer who have been saying there wasn't a knock, or identification as police. But then why did they get woken up? A no knock would have had officers inside in seconds. Yet they didn't come in for a few minutes.

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The knocking startles Taylor and Walker out of bed, and they began yelling out, asking who is there, Walker said. They don't hear a response.

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They left the bedroom and hadn't made it down the hallway...

Both of them were in the hallway. No one was shot in bed. I'm going to see if I can find where that started. 

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After about a minute and hearing no response from inside, police use a battering ram to knock in the front door.

Appears they didn't struggle opening the door. They simply were waiting to see if they would open the door. 

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12:43 a.m.: Officers on scene call dispatch to report an officer had been shot. Officials say this was the shot Walker fired. Taylor is struck in the return fire by police.

12:47 a.m.: Walker calls 911 and says, "Somebody kicked in the door and shot my girlfriend."

This is interesting in that the police reported shots and an officer hit, but they don't continue the arrest? Four minutes later Walker is calling 911?

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Police Chief Steve Conrad says no body-camera footage exists of the shooting.

This is pure stupid. If the department had cams, they should be using them on high risk ventures like this.

A lot of the speculation and outright made up stories could have been curtailed by camera footage.

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DieChecker

An interesting debunk of some of the made up stuff spread around to insite anger...

https://www.savannahnow.com/news/20200924/fact-checking-8-myths-in-breonna-taylor-case-was-she-asleep-when-police-shot-her-is-there-body-cam-footage?template=ampart#aoh=16011387782124&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

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Claim: Police were at the wrong apartment

Ben Crump, a Florida-based attorney involved with the Taylor case, wrote on Twitter on May 11 that police "had the wrong address AND their real suspect was already in custody."

This was pretty commonly reported for a short while. Some people are still saying it.

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Claim: Taylor was shot while she was asleep in bed

Various social media posts and media reports have said Louisville police gunned down Taylor as she was asleep in bed.

its very clear this isn't true.

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Claim: Taylor was living with a drug dealer

Several social media posts have accused Taylor of living with a drug dealer, insinuating that is why police had targeted her place for a search warrant in their narcotics investigation.

It's now pretty clear that no one other then Glover, the ex boyfriend, was a drug dealer. 

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Claim: The officer who was shot was hit by friendly fire

The claim gained traction after national criminal justice reform activist Shaun King tweeted May 14 that, "It is now believed that the police officer who got shot in the leg in the shooting of Breonna Taylor was shot by 'friendly fire' from his own officers.

Dude just made this up, and the media ran with it. Sigh...

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Claim: Taylor was shot eight times by police

In the civil lawsuit filed in April against the LMPD officers who fired their weapons and killed Taylor, attorneys for her family wrote that she was "shot at least eight times by the officers' gunfire and died as a result."

Since then, it has been widely reported, including in The Courier Journal, that Taylor was shot eight times.

Coroner's report says she was hit by six bullets.

Yet more examples of the Media either going off rumors as fact, or taking stuff someone, usually a lawyer with clear willingness and reason to out and out lie, put out on their own, and again portraying it as fact.

The "shot in bed asleep", alone probably motivated half the rioters.

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South Alabam

They obviously have body cam footage now. Let's see them knocking to erase all doubt.

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susieice
3 hours ago, DieChecker said:

An interesting debunk of some of the made up stuff spread around to insite anger...

https://www.savannahnow.com/news/20200924/fact-checking-8-myths-in-breonna-taylor-case-was-she-asleep-when-police-shot-her-is-there-body-cam-footage?template=ampart#aoh=16011387782124&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

This was pretty commonly reported for a short while. Some people are still saying it.

its very clear this isn't true.

It's now pretty clear that no one other then Glover, the ex boyfriend, was a drug dealer. 

Dude just made this up, and the media ran with it. Sigh...

Coroner's report says she was hit by six bullets.

Yet more examples of the Media either going off rumors as fact, or taking stuff someone, usually a lawyer with clear willingness and reason to out and out lie, put out on their own, and again portraying it as fact.

The "shot in bed asleep", alone probably motivated half the rioters.

This story was so twisted by the media for effect and still is. Especially TV media. No one lies more than they do to fit their purposes. If they release those Grand Jury transcripts, and I think they should, reporters will still lie about it because they know most people won't read anything or follow up. Their words will be taken as gospel truth.

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Sole Witness Who Heard Cops Announce Themselves in Breonna Taylor Raid Changed His Story

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In that justification, he said that one witness corroborated the three officers’ insistence that they knocked and identified themselves at Taylor’s Louisville home while executing a search warrant in connection with a narcotics investigation. It contradicted claims from Taylor’s boyfriend, Kenny Walker, and 11 other residents, who said they didn’t hear the cops announce themselves. Instead, Walker thought he was being burglarized and fired a warning shot that triggered a tragic chain of events.

But, according to documents and audio obtained by VICE News on Saturday, that sole witness initially told investigators days after the March 13 raid that he didn’t actually hear officers Brett Hankison, Jonathan Mattingly, and Myles Cosgrove announce themselves.

The witness—identified by VICE as Aarin Sarpee but by other outlets and public records as Aaron Julue Sarpee—was picking up his daughter from a unit above Taylor’s when the raid took place.

It wasn’t until he was interviewed a second time, about two months after the raid by a sergeant in LMPD’s Public Integrity Unit, that Sarpee said he heard police say, “This is the cops.”

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sole-witness-heard-cops-announce-215316031.html

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South Alabam
1 hour ago, aztek said:

Sole Witness Who Heard Cops Announce Themselves in Breonna Taylor Raid Changed His Story

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sole-witness-heard-cops-announce-215316031.html

These Police might have knocked and then all guilt goes to the shooter inside the house.

Or they may have not knocked and this guy had a right to defend himself, thinking there were intruders. 

Eleven witnesses saying they did not knock, and now the sole witness saying they did not knock is also damning.

If they did not knock they will not release body camera footage because supposedly they were not signed off for a no knock raid. Maybe that is why charges have been dropped against Walker for attempted murder of a Police Officer. They know body camera footage would be called into evidence exposing that they did indeed not knock on a raid they were supposed to announce.. And it is weird charges would be dropped if they had body camera evidence. Either way, things smell fishy.

I'm not anti Police, just anti Police corruption. They need to follow the laws they enforce, or get new jobs.

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DieChecker
3 hours ago, South Alabam said:

....and now the sole witness saying they did not knock is also damning.

I thought that was the other way round. He initially didn't report them announcing themselves, but a month later said he remembered them yelling that it was the cops knocking. 

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If they did not knock they will not release body camera footage because supposedly they were not signed off for a no knock raid.

Supposedly the detectives had no cameras, but I've read that some of the officers, 4 total were there, I believe, DID have cameras, but might not have been on. Pics of the officers taken a couple hours later show at least one had a body camera.

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Maybe that is why charges have been dropped against Walker for attempted murder of a Police Officer. They know body camera footage would be called into evidence exposing that they did indeed not knock on a raid they were supposed to announce.. And it is weird charges would be dropped if they had body camera evidence. Either way, things smell fishy.

Agree, we're not getting the whole truth.

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aztek

i'm surprised how testimony of 11 witnesses are ignored over a testimony of 1 who was 1 floor above at a time and changed the story.  clearly bias is involved here 

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the13bats
15 hours ago, DieChecker said:

Agree, we're not getting the whole truth.

Remember the black jogger who got shot there was corruption of LEO in that case, there are blunders in this OP  case and the city paid off but they want to keep the spotlight off their fails, at least my guess.

Perhaps the full story will come up.

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aztek
20 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Remember the black jogger who got shot there was corruption of LEO in that case,...........

really ,how? 

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the13bats
19 minutes ago, aztek said:

really ,how? 

Go look it up, it was widely reported

Heres one of countless reports, on what im guessing is a source you respect,

https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-police-department-ahmaud-arbery-murder-disturbing-history

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aztek
6 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Go look it up, it was widely reported

Heres one of countless reports, on what im guessing is a source you respect,

https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-police-department-ahmaud-arbery-murder-disturbing-history

so? pretty much every police dept is corrupt in one way or another,  but i do not see anything in the article that points to corruption in this case.    not finishing safety course in 2014 has nothing to do with the case

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the13bats
3 minutes ago, aztek said:

so? pretty much every police dept is corrupt in one way or another,  but i do not see anything in the article that points to corruption in this case.    not finishing safety course in 2014 has nothing to do with the case

Okay, i knew you would see it that way.

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aztek

why wouldn't i see it the way evidence supports it?  better question why do you see what is not backed by evidence

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South Alabam
8 hours ago, aztek said:

New Body Camera Footage Contradicts Claims Made By Police About Breonna Taylor's Death

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/body-camera-footage-contradicts-claims-183340986.html

Not surprising. Police will always cover their crimes. Think about the number of times you hear Police apologize for doing something wrong. Never.

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South Alabam
12 hours ago, South Alabam said:

Not surprising. Police will always cover their crimes. Think about the number of times you hear Police apologize for doing something wrong. Never.

Current example: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/sheriff-who-starred-on-live-pd-charged-with-evidence-tampering-in-black-man-s-death/ar-BB19vJ91?ocid=msedgdhp

Sheriff who starred on 'Live PD' charged with evidence tampering in Black man's death

 

Williamson County Sheriff Robert Chody is accused of destroying or concealing audio and video footage that showed his deputies pursuing and using force on Javier Ambler, 40, in March 2019, according to an indictment.

The footage was captured by Live PD cameras on the night that Ambler, a former postal worker and the father of two, died following a 22-minute car chase by Williamson County deputies.

Ambler’s death – and the questions over the destroyed "Live PD" footage – ignited a controversy that led to the cancellation of the hit A&E show in June.

Former Williamson County general counsel Jason Nassour is also accused of destroying the recordings “with intent to impair their ability as evidence” in the investigation of Ambler’s death.

 

The brotherhood in action covering their own crimes.

 

 

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Golden Duck
On 9/25/2020 at 2:59 PM, Hawken said:

Stats show that more whites get killed by cops than black. The media will only report on blacks thus making it look blacks are the only targets. Selective Reporting.

 

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I distinctly remember the killing of Justine Damond was reported.

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susieice
3 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

I distinctly remember the killing of Justine Damond was reported.

That cop was convicted of murder but only got 12 1/2 yrs.

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/07/730691678/ex-minneapolis-officer-sentenced-to-12-1-2-years-in-death-of-unarmed-911-caller

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Golden Duck
1 minute ago, susieice said:

Yes.  It hardly supports the conjecture of what the media "only" reports.  It raises the apprehension that it's more of a case of selective memory rather than selective reporting.

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