astrobeing Posted October 31, 2020 #276 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 11:25 PM, ufoguy said: Your so call witnesses does NOT EXIST. There is NO Evidence of their existence. They're FAKE. Why Tim Ley is more of a reliable witness?...because he and 200+ residence of phoenix has first hand account of this event. He can describe the craft in detail. 200+ vs your FAKE witnesses?...No contest Two hundred witnesses yet you keep talking about what Tim Ley thinks he saw? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted November 1, 2020 #277 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, astrobeing said: Two hundred witnesses yet you keep talking about what Tim Ley thinks he saw? He's after the yearly 'Zoser Trophy', for most gullible anecdote cherry-picker. It's highly prized in certain circles. (Mostly, circles of people running in circles recycling old and long debunked cases.) 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 1, 2020 #278 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, astrobeing said: Two hundred witnesses yet you keep talking about what Tim Ley thinks he saw? it's the same ol' boring illogical bollox that the likes of us have suffered for years! The basics/ the bleeding obvious: if there were something REALLY strange & unknown over a largely populated area it would be world news as a fact- the ultimate proof, job done. This is not the case here= we are told there are multiple witnesses but yet again just another story..... Pathetic really 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted November 1, 2020 #279 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) On 9/26/2020 at 11:07 AM, Seti42 said: It's fascinating how all the most 'compelling' UFO cases predate the ubiquitousness of smartphone cameras. Especially abduction cases. No one has been alien-abducted since millions started carrying cameras every day. It still happens but at night now when they're asleep. They are also unknowingly and unseemly anal probed too Edited November 1, 2020 by qxcontinuum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted November 1, 2020 #280 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, qxcontinuum said: It still happens but at night now when they're asleep. They are also unknowingly and unseemly anal probed too Go on, tell us more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 1, 2020 #281 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, qxcontinuum said: It still happens but at night now when they're asleep. They are also unknowingly and unseemly anal probed too do you seriously believe this is the case or are you avin a laugh? i'm confused 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted November 1, 2020 #282 Share Posted November 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, Dejarma said: do you seriously believe this is the case or are you avin a laugh? i'm confused I am obviously being cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 1, 2020 #283 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, qxcontinuum said: I am obviously being cynical. it wasn't obvious to me so my apologies- now i know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufoguy Posted November 2, 2020 #284 Share Posted November 2, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 2:29 AM, psyche101 said: Tim Ley is a bonafide nutcase who outright said he thought that what he saw, which he described as individual lights was, Humans in cahoots with God. Not aliens. I gave you named, Rich Contry and Mitch Stanley for starters. They definitely exist. If you have to lie for your belief, it's not a good belief system. So your two FAKE LYING witnesses Rich Contry and Mitch Stanley...against 200+ saying they saw a craft?.......really? Where is the video of the planes dropping flares?...and by the way flares dont stay in the sky for about an hr turning on and off.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufoguy Posted November 2, 2020 #285 Share Posted November 2, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 1:47 PM, stereologist said: Rubbish. Total rubbish. You are beyond clueless. Tim Ley's description is just one of many. The problem here is that you are clueless about what happened. You don't even seem to know anything at all about what happened yet you dismiss the video evidence which shows Ley is wrong. You dismiss the telescope and binocular viewing that shows Ley is wrong. Your claim that some witnesses do not exist is just you revealing how utterly and completely clueless you are about the Phoenix Lights. And you are dismissing the actual footage i post...REAL EVIDENCE of what happened....im gonna say it again...you do not see airplanes in that footage i posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufoguy Posted November 2, 2020 #286 Share Posted November 2, 2020 On 10/31/2020 at 7:01 PM, astrobeing said: Two hundred witnesses yet you keep talking about what Tim Ley thinks he saw? because him and his family can describe the craft in detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufoguy Posted November 2, 2020 #287 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) On 10/31/2020 at 8:13 PM, ChrLzs said: He's after the yearly 'Zoser Trophy', for most gullible anecdote cherry-picker. It's highly prized in certain circles. (Mostly, circles of people running in circles recycling old and long debunked cases.) No one can debunk this case... Edited November 2, 2020 by ufoguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted November 2, 2020 #288 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, ufoguy said: So your two FAKE LYING witnesses Rich Contry and Mitch Stanley...against 200+ saying they saw a craft?.......really? There's more, you said none existed. Are you admitting that was a lie, or were you just ignorant of the facts? Please price that they are lying.. 2 hours ago, ufoguy said: Where is the video of the planes dropping flares?...and by the way flares dont stay in the sky for about an hr turning on and off.... Post #159. The flares clearly disappear one by one behind the mountain range and quite clearly do not take an hour to fall. That's a lie and easily proven as one Here it is again. Count the seconds to see how far short of an hour you are. Now go away angry little man and compose yourself before you try again. Bring your manners with you next time. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted November 2, 2020 #289 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, ufoguy said: because him and his family can describe the craft in detail He describes lights as individual. That's planes. Or are you supporting his story that the craft was of human origins in cahoots with God? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted November 3, 2020 #290 Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 hours ago, ufoguy said: So your two FAKE LYING witnesses Rich Contry and Mitch Stanley...against 200+ saying they saw a craft?.......really? Where is the video of the planes dropping flares?...and by the way flares dont stay in the sky for about an hr turning on and off.... There is a video of case 1. It is definitely no a craft. Those 200 witnesses reported seeing stars pass between the lights. Not a craft. Which shape was the craft. Tell me. Show me one witness other than Ley that says it was a Vee. Show me two witnesses that agree on the number of lights. Show me two witnesses that agree on the color of the lights. Frankly, I think you are lying about the witnesses seeing a craft. You are lying about the length of time that the flares were seen. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted November 3, 2020 #291 Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 hours ago, ufoguy said: And you are dismissing the actual footage i post...REAL EVIDENCE of what happened....im gonna say it again...you do not see airplanes in that footage i posted The video you showed was of lights 70miles away. Those were flares determined to be over the Goldwater range over 70miles away. Are you really as clueless as you claim to be? And why are you lying about the length of time the flares were seen? Are you just clueless or are you lying? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted November 3, 2020 #292 Share Posted November 3, 2020 6 hours ago, ufoguy said: No one can debunk this case... YOU JUST DID YOU NUT! You show lights not arranged in a Vee and moving down slowly. You are such a joke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted November 3, 2020 #293 Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 hours ago, ufoguy said: No one can debunk this case... Yes, they can, even believers have well debunked it, http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1052504/pg1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufoguy Posted November 3, 2020 #294 Share Posted November 3, 2020 10 hours ago, psyche101 said: There's more, you said none existed. Are you admitting that was a lie, or were you just ignorant of the facts? Please price that they are lying.. Post #159. The flares clearly disappear one by one behind the mountain range and quite clearly do not take an hour to fall. That's a lie and easily proven as one Here it is again. Count the seconds to see how far short of an hour you are. Now go away angry little man and compose yourself before you try again. Bring your manners with you next time. What is this u posted?... 4 snapshot pics of the real video put together to make a gif animation......this looks like photoshop/ video editing gone wrong......where are the jets?...? No jets no noise. How can u call this proof?.. really PATHETIC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted November 3, 2020 #295 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, ufoguy said: What is this u posted?... 4 snapshot pics of the real video put together to make a gif animation......this looks like photoshop/ video editing gone wrong......where are the jets?...? No jets no noise. How can u call this proof?.. really PATHETIC... It's an animation of the second event which was flares. The first event was planes. You only look worse with each post. You are your own worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufoguy Posted November 3, 2020 #296 Share Posted November 3, 2020 6 hours ago, stereologist said: YOU JUST DID YOU NUT! You show lights not arranged in a Vee and moving down slowly. You are such a joke your not listening watch 16:00 - 16:44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufoguy Posted November 3, 2020 #297 Share Posted November 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, psyche101 said: It's an animation of the second event which was flares. The first event was planes. You only look worse with each post. You are your own worst enemy. Like i said no one heard jets when they saw the lights....every eyewitness said they heard NO NOISE when the lights flew over their heads ....not one sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted November 3, 2020 #298 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 hours ago, ufoguy said: your not listening watch 16:00 - 16:44 The triangulation was doneby Maccabee and it puts the lights 70miles away over the Goldwater range. You are so clueless listening to some dork on a video. You are so foolishly gullible. Daytime video shot from the same location shows that the lights were over the mountains. Here is a UFO site teliing you that the triangulation puts the lights far out. https://www.theufochronicles.com/2015/03/the-arizona-ufo-controversy-18th.html#:~:text=She gave her videos to Dr. Bruce Maccabee,been conducting exercises involving dropping of illumination flares. There is good reason they could NOT have been in front of the Estrella mountains. If they had been then people in the city of Phoenix could see them. But only people well up on mountains to the north of the city could see the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted November 3, 2020 #299 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 hours ago, ufoguy said: Like i said no one heard jets when they saw the lights....every eyewitness said they heard NO NOISE when the lights flew over their heads ....not one sound That's a really dumb lie. Many witnesses reported hearing event #1. You are completely and utterly hopelessly clueless. No one can hear jets 70 miles away. In fact, the lights on jets that far away cannot be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted November 3, 2020 #300 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Of course who is in the video? It is Jim Dilettosso, the biggest fool in the Phoenix Lights story. That guy at the 16 minute mark is the knucklehead that has been making a living fooling the extremely foolish and gullible of this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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