thedutchiedutch Posted September 29, 2020 #26 Share Posted September 29, 2020 What a nonsense. It's a toy for crying out loud. You can buy pink ones for girls on Amazon for example and regular ones at Toys R us online. Here is a nice scientific study result about the famous boards called : https://sciencenordic.com/behaviour-denmark-superstition/how-ouija-boards-really-work/1457820 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 29, 2020 #27 Share Posted September 29, 2020 It's only dangerous to those who take it too seriously or have mental illness. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted September 29, 2020 #28 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, papageorge1 said: I think many have had real and positive experiences with the Ouija board. But the risk of a bad experience is too great to recommend its use to amateurs. I've never heard of "positive experiences" with a Ouija Board. I only know of undesirable outcomes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 30, 2020 #29 Share Posted September 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, acute said: I've never heard of "positive experiences" with a Ouija Board. I only know of undesirable outcomes. See reply #27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted September 30, 2020 #30 Share Posted September 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, the13bats said: 41 minutes ago, acute said: I've never heard of "positive experiences" with a Ouija Board. I only know of undesirable outcomes. See reply #27 As I said on the first page, "Even if a negative outcome is psychological, not paranormal, no good ever comes from using a Ouija Board." Saying that, I only personally know of paranormal (not psychological) consequences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted September 30, 2020 #31 Share Posted September 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, acute said: I've never heard of "positive experiences" with a Ouija Board. I only know of undesirable outcomes. I have heard many, many positive stories of friendly spirits coming through with no negative consequences. Ouija: The Spirits and the Positive Side of the Talking Board 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted September 30, 2020 #32 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: I have heard many, many positive stories of friendly spirits coming through with no negative consequences. Ouija: The Spirits and the Positive Side of the Talking Board Thanks. I'll take a look at that. I have only ever heard of low spirits coming through. Edited September 30, 2020 by acute 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted September 30, 2020 #33 Share Posted September 30, 2020 8 hours ago, TashaMarie said: The issue is you only ever hear off the people who claim to have experienced something during or after using a board. I should imagine if everyone who had used one with no experiences were to tell their story albeit boring story it would pretty much clear this nonsense up. Because there are many non-connections does mean there are not also many real connections. I tried it by myself and got no movement but I believe others have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereWeAreThen Posted September 30, 2020 #34 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, papageorge1 said: The cumulative weight of the evidence tells us something outside your box of explanations must also be occurring in many cases. There is no evidence. Edited September 30, 2020 by ThereWeAreThen Not sure why the meme is small. :( 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted September 30, 2020 #35 Share Posted September 30, 2020 5 hours ago, ThereWeAreThen said: There is no evidence. For the twentieth time with you, I've seen no evidence that you will ever understand what the word 'evidence' even means when investigating mysteries. There we are then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 30, 2020 #36 Share Posted September 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: For the twentieth time with you, I've seen no evidence that you will ever understand what the word 'evidence' even means when investigating mysteries. There we are then. If there is no evidence why do you assume there is? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereWeAreThen Posted September 30, 2020 #37 Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 hours ago, papageorge1 said: For the twentieth time with you, I've seen no evidence that you will ever understand what the word 'evidence' even means when investigating mysteries. There we are then. For the billionth time with you, stories and crappy videos do no count as evidence. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereWeAreThen Posted September 30, 2020 #38 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Surely, if there was proof that ghosts exist, the entire world would know and we'd literally be taught it in schools? Not evidence but PROOF. Billions of people have died everywhere humans have inhabited and yet there is no PROOF ghosts exist. Call me closed minded but that is why I don't believe they exist. Tell you what, make of it as you will but just found this. "6 possible scientific reasons for ghosts" https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/6-possible-scientific-reasons-for-ghosts/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted September 30, 2020 #39 Share Posted September 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said: For the billionth time with you, stories and crappy videos do no count as evidence. Lol, and who determines ‘crappy’ from ‘non-crappy’ videos? It’s all evidence for consideration, stronger and weaker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereWeAreThen Posted September 30, 2020 #40 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Lol, and who determines ‘crappy’ from ‘non-crappy’ videos? It’s all evidence for consideration, stronger and weaker. Do you know what? Fine, I'll concede the crappy videos are actual evidence, cause what we can see is either happening or not. For example, someone claims to see a ghost on video, but its badly done CGI (just an example) or a door slamming on its own. Yes, the door is slamming on its own but most of the times the video doesn't show everything. So yes, videos, crappy or not are evidence, vast majority of the time, evidence of a hoax or just something normal happening. (I'll even chuck you a like for that as a sign of a defeat ). But come on man, you've got to admit that without any evidence, stories are just stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted September 30, 2020 #41 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Oh enough with the pointless argument of asking Papa G to validate his beliefs, and his bickering back please. Years and hundreds of threads derailed with it is more than plenty. Talk about the topic, and stop talking about each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 30, 2020 #42 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, rashore said: Oh enough with the pointless argument of asking Papa G to validate his beliefs, and his bickering back please. Years and hundreds of threads derailed with it is more than plenty. Talk about the topic, and stop talking about each other. Shouldn't he support his point of view with links in order to give validity to his view point? A couple of the most compelling cases, or proper scientific studies that help validate his opinions? It is only fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted September 30, 2020 #43 Share Posted September 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said: Do you know what? Fine, I'll concede the crappy videos are actual evidence, cause what we can see is either happening or not. For example, someone claims to see a ghost on video, but its badly done CGI (just an example) or a door slamming on its own. Yes, the door is slamming on its own but most of the times the video doesn't show everything. So yes, videos, crappy or not are evidence, vast majority of the time, evidence of a hoax or just something normal happening. (I'll even chuck you a like for that as a sign of a defeat ). But come on man, you've got to admit that without any evidence, stories are just stories. An analysis of a body of stories for quantity, quality and consistency can affect my view of reality as it has towards the paranormal. Stories can be important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereWeAreThen Posted September 30, 2020 #44 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: An analysis of a body of stories for quantity, quality and consistency can affect my view of reality as it has towards the paranormal. Stories can be important. It may affect your view, but it doesn't make it evidence. Sorry. I'm assuming Rashore is referring to me and yourself. So on that note I'll leave it to that. Edited September 30, 2020 by ThereWeAreThen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted September 30, 2020 #45 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ThereWeAreThen said: It may affect your view, but it doesn't make it evidence. Sorry. Really? Again? The moderator above is sick of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 30, 2020 #46 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Really? Again? The moderator above is sick of this. Maybe some of us are sick of it too. Why should the skeptics be the one's the validate their opinion/s while believers like yourself get a free ride? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted September 30, 2020 #47 Share Posted September 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Maybe some of us are sick of it too. Why should the skeptics be the one's the validate their opinion/s while believers like yourself get a free ride? Free ride? I give my reasons in general. Arguing individual cases with a determined skeptic is a fool’s errand. I’m no fool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 30, 2020 #48 Share Posted September 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Free ride? I give my reasons in general. Arguing individual cases with a determined skeptic is a fool’s errand. I’m no fool! You don't discuss. You throw out some arbitrary percentage. Then make claim that it is all real. When questioned about it you avoid further conversations. On the occasions you've been asked to support yourself. When you do (which is rare) that too always gets debunked. If someone's sees some-thing at 3 am while half asleep, if I or anyone else for that matter gives a valid explanation we have to support it. You and others like yourself do not. You can feed people's imaginations all day long, but don't let a skeptic say anything. That's a no no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted September 30, 2020 #49 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, XenoFish said: You don't discuss. You throw out some arbitrary percentage. Then make claim that it is all real. When questioned about it you avoid further conversations. On the occasions you've been asked to support yourself. When you do (which is rare) that too always gets debunked. If someone's sees some-thing at 3 am while half asleep, if I or anyone else for that matter gives a valid explanation we have to support it. You and others like yourself do not. You can feed people's imaginations all day long, but don't let a skeptic say anything. That's a no no. All false news above. I suggest you ignore me then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted October 1, 2020 #50 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, XenoFish said: Shouldn't he support his point of view with links in order to give validity to his view point? A couple of the most compelling cases, or proper scientific studies that help validate his opinions? It is only fair. He did give link to what he feels is compelling, in post 31 further up this page. It’s not being accepted very well and he isn’t getting a free ride in response. Folks are just chasing each other’s tails about it. Im not sure what might be out there for scientific studies of ouija or negative views on it like what was presented in the OP, but ThereWeAreThen did post a link about science and ghosts as a rebuttal. Might be a notion to dig into it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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