the13bats Posted October 10, 2020 #251 Share Posted October 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, aztek said: The video, posted on YouTube, shows a few dozen protesters marching down Fifth Avenue at 32nd Street Saturday afternoon. After a few seconds of chanting "Hands up, don’t shoot," the demonstrators changed their cry, apparently yelling out in unison "What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want it? Now." https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/eric-garner-manhattan-dead-cops-video-millions-march-protest/2015303/ Oh, thanks just peachy, that will make LEOs just luv em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted October 10, 2020 #252 Share Posted October 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, GoldenWolf said: When I see something from a Right outlet that isn't pushing the same ol' same ol' "The Left is a group of Antifa/Marxist/Commies that want to take away your religious freedom and guns and destroy the country" rhetoric, I might quote them. And exactly who is neutral? i already proved the gun thing now this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted October 10, 2020 #253 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, aztek said: as opposed to someone who believes every word of cnn? I dont believe any media at face value, i do believe when i hear joe, don nan or whoever say it themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted October 10, 2020 #254 Share Posted October 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, susieice said: Dan Rather dumped on Biden in 1988. But they didn't feature propaganda in their broadcasts. They told the news straight up. I remember Dan Rather got fired on a screw up of president Bush Dan Rather still stands by the CBS News report that got him fired, nearly a decade and one feature film later. The former anchor’s reputation was tarnished after the accuracy of his 2004 story questioning President George W. Bush’s military service was publicly disputed by the leader’s administration. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted October 10, 2020 #255 Share Posted October 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, susieice said: We're divorced for a while now. Marching builds pride. But it doesn't make a good skill for going into combat. Let me tell you a story. Have you ever been to Gettysburg and heard the stories of what happened there? Park Rangers are wonderful people. They'll tell you about the Confederates who marched in formation across the wheat field. And as they were mowed down by Union artillery, they closed ranks and kept marching. They were decimated. To the point where Pickett never forgave Lee for the orders he gave. There was also the men from Minnesota. They lost 80 percent of their company fighting off a much larger Confederate force and held their ground. Twenty nine survived, some wounded. To this day, they suffered the highest loss of any unit in the US Army. I was also at the top of Little Round Top where facing a Confederate charge up the hill, General Chamberlain and his troops from Maine ran out of ammunition. A rare order, even for that time was given. Fix bayonets. Charge. Now you have to be standing at the top of this steep, woody hill to fully appreciate what those men did that day. They repelled the attack. And as I'm standing there, I'm thinking to myself, Sue...there isn't a single man around you with that kind of fortitude and courage. Both sides. I don't ever want to see a war like that again. That Park Ranger really showed me the reality. back in those days camouflage and modern tactics would be seen as cowardness, soldiers of those days pretty much worldwide did not try to hide or protect themselves, their uniforms were colorful and be seen from miles away, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 10, 2020 #256 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, aztek said: back in those days camouflage and modern tactics would be seen as cowardness, soldiers of those days pretty much worldwide did not try to hide or protect themselves, their uniforms were colorful and be seen from miles away, Like the British in the Revolutionary War. And us. A rag tag militia of farmers that no one thought had a chance. Up in the trees. The human spirit? Edited October 10, 2020 by susieice 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted October 10, 2020 #257 Share Posted October 10, 2020 41 minutes ago, the13bats said: It was blm? I had no idea, i thought they were mostly sucker punching comedy actors of the 80s early 90s. There is absolutely no proof that blm was responsible gor the attack. Also that quote that and then referenced is widely thought to have been right wing provocateurs trying to portray the protestors as terrorists. Just like the guy that was breaking the windows during the first riot, he was proven to be right wing, I highly suggest you research what and then said. His record for obfuscation is widely known. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted October 10, 2020 #258 Share Posted October 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said: There is absolutely no proof that blm was responsible gor the attack. Also that quote that and then referenced is widely thought to have been right wing provocateurs trying to portray the protestors as terrorists. Just like the guy that was breaking the windows during the first riot, he was proven to be right wing, I highly suggest you research what and then said. His record for obfuscation is widely known. I wondered about that obvious out of place paramilitary dressed fellow busting windows for no reason, I also am not saying its the case but like that Gretchen kidnapper who called trump a tyrant, i could see a really obsessed trump worshipper willing to do such a thing and ruse so trump could use it. And trust me i do not believe without proof anything the hardcore deep trump worshippers here post, i might as well just watch faux news 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 10, 2020 #259 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Here's a report on the attacks on police. They aren't pointing out BLM specifically. https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-officers-killed-surge-28-year-point-civil/story?id=71773405 But overall violence is skyrocketing all over. Philadelphia's murder rate is soaring. This is from Sept. 1. It's higher now. There are multiple shootings and killings every day. https://whyy.org/articles/more-than-300-people-have-been-murdered-in-philly-so-far-in-2020/ This report was updated 4 days ago. The whole country is showing a huge upswing in murders. https://www.inquirer.com/crime/double-shooting-south-philadelphia-philly-gun-violence-children-shot-20201005.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted October 10, 2020 #260 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Militias do have a history of plotting attacks against the police: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/mich-militia-group-charged-with-plotting-police-attacks This current batch were plotting to attack police as well: https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-10-08/13-with-ties-to-right-wing-militias-charged-in-plots-to-kidnap-michigan-governor-target-police 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 10, 2020 #261 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Here's an ambush of officers in California. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/10/01/police-identify-and-charge-man-with-ambush-shooting-of-two-california-cops-and-he-was-already-in-custody/ Here's a shooting at a police officers' home in New Jersey. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/us/police-officers-home-shot-at-new-jersey-trnd/index.html This one occurred at a protest in Louisville, Kentucky https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/us/breonna-taylor-decision-live-updates.html There's a lot more but I'm not going to search for all of them. Some name the suspects if known. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 10, 2020 #262 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) Just went to check the news sites and here's another shooting that just happened tonight in Philly. It's an every day thing. They're shooting each other all day and all night. Listen to the video report. https://6abc.com/caught-on-video-gunfire-erupts-during-vigil-in-sw-philly/6901505/?fbclid=IwAR2FtosC2IcQkwUy3G-8CP6g5ktGNcQB-t3w7wyP25UGz6xlZAqz3d001NI Edited October 10, 2020 by susieice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted October 10, 2020 #263 Share Posted October 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, susieice said: Here's a report on the attacks on police. They aren't pointing out BLM specifically. Of course not. BLM's hateful rhetoric isn't even a "dog whistle". It's outright day after day of calling for the death of police officers, but that's not inciting violence. According to some people the riots aren't even happening. Insurance companies would beg to differ. Insurers May Rethink Property Risk After Unprecedented Losses From Riots https://www.claimsjournal.com/news/national/2020/07/06/298012.htm 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 10, 2020 #264 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Here's another one. This guy had a shooting spree going on. https://www.fox29.com/news/police-identify-suspect-killed-in-shootout-with-officers-after-deadly-rampage-in-germantown?fbclid=IwAR0A0xvm_RmdhEMoNl-co-u6unLHmlKzyg2fWR0ffPTE8L-PDVlPj5zPooY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted October 10, 2020 #265 Share Posted October 10, 2020 5 hours ago, susieice said: I did no such thing. And I'm sure my paint brush isn't any bigger than yours is. Probably less. You know you are touching on truth with this crowd when they begin moaning about racism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted October 10, 2020 #266 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 hours ago, aztek said: clinton of not, they all have left biased agenda, not my opinion, mediabiascheck website says so You'd think that when they all use the exact same wording for their reports, their fans might wonder about the content. Apparently, they don't notice it or care. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted October 10, 2020 #267 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 hours ago, the13bats said: Huh? What cops did blm kill? FIVE Dallas cops were shot dead while working security for a BLM march. https://dailycaller.com/2016/07/08/payback-time-pigs-blm-supporters-celebrate-dallas-attack-on-twitter-video/ You really might want to inform yourself better before publicly supporting such a movement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted October 10, 2020 #268 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, and then said: FIVE Dallas cops were shot dead while working security for a BLM march. https://dailycaller.com/2016/07/08/payback-time-pigs-blm-supporters-celebrate-dallas-attack-on-twitter-video/ You really might want to inform yourself better before publicly supporting such a movement. And there you go making up stuff about others i never supported blm, i dont even know them, Can you show me a cut and paste where the shooters were confirmed blm members and are locked away for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 10, 2020 #269 Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 hours ago, aztek said: i already proved the gun thing now this I rather think that “Nik” is referring to the beliefs of “homosexuality is a sin” and “marriage is only between one man and one woman”, rather than the wider faith systems in which those beliefs are to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted October 10, 2020 #270 Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 hours ago, susieice said: Here's another one. This guy had a shooting spree going on. https://www.fox29.com/news/police-identify-suspect-killed-in-shootout-with-officers-after-deadly-rampage-in-germantown?fbclid=IwAR0A0xvm_RmdhEMoNl-co-u6unLHmlKzyg2fWR0ffPTE8L-PDVlPj5zPooY I read every link. Not one confirmed BLM. Many Blaming BLM, but none convicted as such. Your last link only gave a name. No affiliations, no militia, and no hate groups. Just a nut job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 10, 2020 #271 Share Posted October 10, 2020 6 hours ago, susieice said: Like the British in the Revolutionary War. And us. A rag tag militia of farmers that no one thought had a chance. Up in the trees. The human spirit? The backing of the French Empire..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 10, 2020 #272 Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 hours ago, and then said: You know you are touching on truth with this crowd when they begin moaning about racism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted October 10, 2020 #273 Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: I rather think that “Nik” is referring to the beliefs of “homosexuality is a sin” and “marriage is only between one man and one woman”, rather than the wider faith systems in which those beliefs are to be found. lol, sure, here is another one, like i've been saying, blm has nothing to do with police shooting blacks in reality. Black Lives Matter turns up head on Christian athletes, coaches https://video.foxnews.com/v/6199386338001#sp=show-clips never mind the source, it is coming from horses mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted October 10, 2020 #274 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: The backing of the French Empire..... how many french legions fought on northern side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted October 10, 2020 #275 Share Posted October 10, 2020 This thread has gone off the rails for several pages now, and folks are really forgetting to keep it civil and courteous in their discussions. Thread closed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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