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DieChecker
3 minutes ago, Katniss said:

It seems like Lichtman said in previous interviews that Trump had 7 against him and that you only needed six to lose the election according to his analysis. I'll go back and check those interviews out.

That could be. In which case, yeah, he's screwed... At least as far as this prediction system anyway. 

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diddyman68
15 hours ago, TrumanB said:

His previous predictions were all correct. What else do you want as proof that he knows what's he talking about?

Well paul the octopus got 12/14 predictions right.

Thats a pretty good record.he must really know his stuff.

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Katniss
52 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

That could be. In which case, yeah, he's screwed... At least as far as this prediction system anyway. 

I found one interview and unfortunately it's a CNN interview (sorry about that :D), but starting at 5:01 Lichtman does say Trump has 7 keys against him and that it takes 6 to lose. So I guess will see, but there are a lot of angry seniors out there that are not happy with Trump and some of those angry seniors were a larger part of his base.

 

 

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Helen of Annoy
56 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Please forgive me. You're correct.

Nothing to forgive, honest mistakes happen. 

 

56 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Yes, we all know you hate Trump.

As for Nobel, there's always next year, or perhaps 4 more years. :P

I don't hate him. I pity him. 

But I also really think he's the worst disaster that has ever struck the US. It's my non-political opinion. (In my political opinion, it's even worse than that, but my political opinion is not important in a thread about US matters.)

You probably noticed there's quite a consensus about that, anywhere in the world. The only people who find him acceptable are bizarre-right wingers (not the sane conservatives) and there are those who find him useful, adversaries, who appreciate his efforts to divide and weaken the US. 

As an average outsider, I'd say you need a sane president, urgently, who will start fixing the damage Trump has done to you as a nation, both at home and in the world. 

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aztek
19 minutes ago, Katniss said:

I found one interview and unfortunately it's a CNN interview (sorry about that :D), but starting at 5:01 Lichtman does say Trump has 7 keys against him and that it takes 6 to lose. So I guess will see, but there are a lot of angry seniors out there that are not happy with Trump and some of those angry seniors were a larger part of his base.

 

 

he may lost few angry seniors but he gained more  young black and hispanic voters. in any case none of them really  matter, EC matters

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Helen of Annoy
42 minutes ago, aztek said:

he may lost few angry seniors but he gained more  young black and hispanic voters. in any case none of them really  matter, EC matters

Aha. That's why Trump released that godawful, used car salesman type of convincing, complete with hand accordion, video "to seniors, my favourite people... I'm a senior, I know you don't know that..."

He thinks people don't know he's a senior. He really thinks he seems young. I mean... 25th. Not the birthday, the amendment.  

 

Saying that Trump is gaining black and Hispanic votes is beyond lying. It's a verbal fart. Don't fart in public.  

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TrumanB

What damage did Trump make to the world? It can't be compared to destruction that George W. Bush brought. And not to forget professor Obama whose attack on Libya caused millions of migrants try to flee to Europe. What a humanitarian distaster that action created. Trump also pushed some peace agreements, as DieChecker already mentioned.

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RAyMO
2 hours ago, aztek said:

he may lost few angry seniors but he gained more  young black and hispanic voters. in any case none of them really  matter, EC matters

unless your electoral college is going to start ignoring voters - then they matter. 

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seanjo
5 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

From your own quote it's extremely obvious Trump did say he thinks disinfectant should be injected into human body to "check out" if that would help against the disease. It would. Once you're dead you're not sick anymore. 

He's old, wasted and apparently never was particularly sane or intelligent. But what is wrong with people who willingly act like they can't notice tremendous stupidity behind the ideas of injecting disinfectants? Or frying lungs with UV light. 

It's a cult and it's a cult that glorifies stupidity.  

Can you read? "something like that" that's not saying inject disinfectant, that's saying is there something that does the same job as a disinfectant but can be used on humans...I know TDS is a hard disease to get over, but please use your head.

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Helen of Annoy
12 minutes ago, seanjo said:

Can you read? "something like that" that's not saying inject disinfectant, that's saying is there something that does the same job as a disinfectant but can be used on humans...I know TDS is a hard disease to get over, but please use your head.

You can attempt to attack me personally all you want, but the fact remains Trump can't understand things as simple as do not inject disinfectants into human bodies. Do not irradiate lungs with UV light. Do not stand on the balcony while you've got a disease that's killing seniors, especially obese ones, no matter how high on steroids you are. 

 

 

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toast
16 hours ago, the13bats said:

You really are lost, trump potus appointed vp pence to head some covid task force, their response was such an epic fail, they couldnt even keep trump and many at his rose garden shindig cronnies from catching it,

"Lets-pray-Pence" is the worse possible person for such jobs. He has already proven his incompetence, on the shoulders of others.

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It’s true that Pence faced an HIV outbreak while he was the governor, and that he eventually allowed a needle exchange. But his revisionist history misrepresents his role in what transpired in the small town of Austin, Indiana five years ago, where over 200 people were infected with HIV. What happened is that Pence failed to act in response to increasingly urgent signs of a significant HIV outbreak, and he delayed implementation of vital public health measures. Among public health experts, the Indiana outbreak is considered a failure of state response, and an example of how poor political leadership can actually make a crisis worse.

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Extract from Dynamics of the HIV Outbreak and Response in Scott County, Indiana, 2011-2015: A Modeling Study:

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Dynamics of the HIV Outbreak and Response in Scott County, Indiana, 2011-2015: A Modeling Study

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Findings:

The upper bound for undiagnosed HIV infections in Scott County peaked around January 10, 2015 at 126 undiagnosed cases, over two months before Governor Pence declared a public health emergency on March 26, 2015. Applying the observed case-finding rate scale-up to earlier intervention times suggests that an earlier public health response could have substantially reduced the total number of HIV infections. Initiation of a response in January 2013 would have suppressed the total number of infections to fewer than 56, representing at least 127 infections averted, while an intervention in April 2011 could have reduced the number of infections to fewer than ten, representing at least 173 infections averted.

US National Library of Medicine/National Institutes of Health

 

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the13bats
21 minutes ago, toast said:

"Lets-pray-Pence" is the worse possible person for such jobs. He has already proven his incompetence, on the shoulders of others.

The real unexplained mystery is that even after trumps admins epic fail and deaths his worshippers think he while coughing and wheezing from covid can keep them safe

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the13bats
6 hours ago, Katniss said:

there are a lot of angry seniors out there that are not happy with Trump and some of those angry seniors were a larger part of his base.

I dont ( sadly, lol ) live too far from the villages, i piece of trivia, a lot of them are senior swingers, what they dangle off their rearview mirror is the code, iifc they have their own std center you can if morbid curious google it.

But yeah, those villages folks are not stupid, they see trump bluster how hes done a great job with covid but then he cant keep himself of the WH safe and it was a direct result of his imcompatance, the villagers see that and say wth? If you cant keep yourself and wife safe how can you keep me safe, so they are done with him, like one lady said she gave don a chance but all he has are excuses.

I also saw some ladies in the villages tired of trumps cavalier remarks like grab um by and his affairs with sex trade workers, these ladies see that as disrespectful to women and unbefitting behavior for a potus, so he lost more voters there.

Just like you kit, many folks gave trump a chance 2016 and he failed, so they just dont want 4 more from a game show host.

 

 

3 hours ago, seanjo said:

.I know TDS is a hard disease to get over,

TRUMPS DERANGMENT SYNDROME has only gotten worse. his covid treatment seems to have kicked in high gear looney for him.

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Big Jim
21 hours ago, the13bats said:

i bet he cant spell the word.

Now that's funny, you criticizing someone else's spelling.

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Big Jim
44 minutes ago, the13bats said:

If you cant keep yourself and wife safe how can you keep me safe

No one can keep you safe but yourself.  Who puts on your mask, who washes your hands?  Who guides your steps in social distancing?  Who decides where you will go, how close you will sit, etc.?  I know someone who has barely ventured out since March.  I run errands several days a week.  We're both covid free.  We make our own choices and do what feels safe to us.  As we see with laws of all kinds, they only attempt to regulate peoples' behavior and punish afterwards.  They do not control or prevent any action.  Once we were made aware of the virus the rest has been on us.  The President, your governor, the nurse who lives on your block can't force you to protect yourself or save you if you don't.

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aztek
5 hours ago, RAyMO said:

unless your electoral college is going to start ignoring voters - then they matter. 

that clause already exists,  EC trumps popular vote,  you may not like it but this is how it works.

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the13bats
6 minutes ago, Big Jim said:

Now that's funny, you criticizing someone else's spelling.

Sure i do, as i will also down right make fun of trump mispronouncing misusing or outright making up words, what a baffoon.

 

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aztek
2 minutes ago, Big Jim said:

No one can keep you safe but yourself.  Who puts on your mask, who washes your hands?  Who guides your steps in social distancing?  Who decides where you will go, how close you will sit, etc.?  I know someone who has barely ventured out since March.  I run errands several days a week.  We're both covid free.  We make our own choices and do what feels safe to us.  As we see with laws of all kinds, they only attempt to regulate peoples' behavior and punish afterwards.  They do not control or prevent any action.  One we were made aware of the virus the rest has been on us.  The President, your governor, the nurse who lives on your block can't force you to protect yourself or save you if you don't.

why do some feel it is someone  else's  duty to keep them safe???   

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Big Jim
1 minute ago, the13bats said:

Sure i do, as i will also down right make fun of trump mispronouncing misusing or outright making up words, what a baffoon.

 

Well, I guess if you're going to be a blatant hypocrite you might as well be proud of it.

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TrumanB
Just now, aztek said:

why do some feel it is someone  else's  duty to keep them safe???   

It's president's duty to give a good example.

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Big Jim
2 minutes ago, aztek said:

why do some feel it is someone  else's  duty to keep them safe???   

Or buy their groceries or pay their rent or provide their medical treatment, etc.?

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aztek
1 minute ago, TrumanB said:

It's president's duty to give a good example.

and he does, work hard, build something, become someone that matters,   if you need president to tell you to wear a mask during pandemic, you biggest problem is staring at you in the mirror,

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TrumanB
2 minutes ago, aztek said:

and he does, work hard, build something, become someone that matters,   if you need president to tell you to wear a mask during pandemic, you biggest problem is staring at you in the mirror,

Yes, that's exactly what you need. Follow by example...

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aztek
1 minute ago, TrumanB said:

Yes, that's exactly what you need. Follow by example...

wrong, that is what YOU need, me otoh, can make my own decisions 

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the13bats
5 minutes ago, Big Jim said:

No one can keep you safe but yourself.  Who puts on your mask, who washes your hands?  Who guides your steps in social distancing?  Who decides where you will go, how close you will sit, etc.?  I know someone who has barely ventured out since March.  I run errands several days a week.  We're both covid free.  We make our own choices and do what feels safe to us.  As we see with laws of all kinds, they only attempt to regulate peoples' behavior and punish afterwards.  They do not control or prevent any action.  Once we were made aware of the virus the rest has been on us.  The President, your governor, the nurse who lives on your block can't force you to protect yourself or save you if you don't.

So do you mask up when in public or are you one of "those" types who refuses to wear one?

Lol, that was one of the weaker defenses of trump and his admins grossly incompatant life costing epic failured with covid ive heard from a worshipper.

So you want to ignore a potus should at least try to keep the people in his country under his watch safe from the enemy thats lame.

Trump couldnt keep himself safe, his ineptitude and incompatance showed him for the bumbling failure.

I guess all i really needed to say in this reply was thanks for making my point about trump, his admin and worshippers better than i ever could.

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