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Tom O'Neil

Voynich Manuscript loaded with GIBBERISH!

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Tom O'Neil

If the Voynich text was a language than a person would not find very many bigram tokens that are reversed to form words!

My main statement is that the Voynich text is utter rubbish and gibberish which follows a Zipfian law and I understand that.

So if the Voynich is a language than why is this for so many bigram tokens within the Voynich Manuscript?

yk and then reversed to ky

ra and then reversed to ar

ro and then reversed to or

os and then reversed to so

yd and then reversed to dy

do and then reversed to od

che and then reversed to ech

ko and then reversed to ok

et and then reversed to te

 

Go look for some more gibberish and you get the point as there could be a couple left in the kitty of rubbish. This is utter proof that the Voynich Manuscript is gibberish, a waste of time, complete nonsense, meaningless garbage where so many intelligent people (maybe not) and Yale has hoaxed us all, whether they know it or not for so many wasted hours that most all of us have spent studying this pail of crap. This friggin VMS text will never decode properly and any claim that it has been accomplished is total bs!


Now that I got that out of the way the gibberish maybe covering up meaningful information believe it or not and I can prove how that is done!

Take for instance this little bit of text which no normal decryption method could unravel or decode it. This little bit is actually a famous poem from a great Poet rendered to gibberish by me. I will tell you about it, the words sometimes are not the same length and the letter order is randomly scrambled by me:

Ytr rormo ler vnburlsie liu vgh dsaut
Ytr oper tybnaill brii lpert aerwer ytld
Voutght doedth enids vgh vordl liu dott rua gtyed
Mihty solser Ytr talml fghpo wqert tergrsdf rorm
Oiurty hi liu gadfwe vgh bssofl pdert

 

My job for you is quite simple, refer to the Zipf distribution list below for any unknown language tokens and compare them to each known token as in English words until the little paragraph is fulfilled, then you have decoded the paragraph in a non traditional cipher method. Each unknown token is just to the right of its English word counterpart. This fun task will display a poetic message. This bit is from a famous poem and Poet. Have fun!

the 3 vgh 3

and 3 liu 3

of 3 Ytr 3

Seat 1 pdert 1

blissful 1 bssofl 1

regain 1 gadfwe 1

us 1 hi 1

Restore 1 Oiurty 1

Man 1 rorm 1

greater 1 tergrsdf 1

one 1 wqert 1

till 1 fghpo 1

Eden 1 talml 1

loss 1 solser 1

With 1 Mihty 1

woe 1 gtyed 1

our 1 rua 1

all 1 dott 1

World 1 vordl 1

into 1 enids 1

Death 1 doedth 1

Brought 1 Voutght 1

tast 1 ytld 1

mortal 1 aerwer 1

whose 1 lpert 1

Tree 1 brii 1

Forbidden 1 tybnaill 1

that 1 oper 1

Fruit 1 dsaut 1

Disobedience 1 vnburlsie 1

First 1 ler 1

Mans 1 rormo1

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acute
19 minutes ago, Tom O'Neil said:

GIBBERISH!

I have to agree.

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ChrLzs

{Puts on Devil's Avocado hat and Maxwell Smart voice...}

Ah yes, the old "reverse random-looking duplets and triplets" technique.  It's an oldie but a goodie.  You won't be likely to solve that part of the cipher without the decryption key, of course.

And there's no way I am giving that key to anyone..

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Xeno-Fish

The manuscript was written by a psychedelic occultist who spent too much time sleep deprived and eating shrooms. Maybe he was chugging a bit too much "witches brew".

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Golden Duck
8 hours ago, Tom O'Neil said:

...

Now that I got that out of the way the gibberish maybe covering up meaningful information believe it or not and I can prove how that is done!

...

If it looks like writing to functionally literate netizens.  Imagine how convincing it might've been to someone who couldn't read in the 15th Century.

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ChrLzs
1 hour ago, Golden Duck said:

.. functionally literate netizens

Where???  Haven't seen any hereabouts - which way did they go?

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Alchopwn
On 10/12/2020 at 6:56 AM, Tom O'Neil said:

If the Voynich text was a language than a person would not find very many bigram tokens that are reversed to form words!

My main statement is that the Voynich text is utter rubbish and gibberish which follows a Zipfian law and I understand that.

So if the Voynich is a language than why is this for so many bigram tokens within the Voynich Manuscript?

Tom, I don't disagree with the possibility that the Voynich Manuscript is gibberish.  I can see the possible value of such a book that nobody else can read that allows the learned doctor who "can read it", to offer any prognostication they would like, to win an argument based on fake erudition.  I have even put forwards this argument myself on occasion, but there is still the possibility it is wrong.

As to the letter reversal, it is possible that the use of a mirror may be required to read it, as was often the case with Da Vinci's work (it has been claimed that the Voynich Manuscript was made by Da Vinci as a child, but I don't place much stock in the idea).

I think it is pretty unequivocal that the Voynich manuscript is a medical text, given its illustrations, and remembering that horoscopes were once considered important in determining appropriate days for surgeries based on natal charts, hence all the stars depicted.

The alternative possibility exists that it is a book copied from an earlier one, written in a Syriac script, in Old Romany, a language which is extinct.  This would mean that the original book likely came out of India with the exodus of refugees from Muslim occupied India in the 12th Century, and was later transcribed into its present form during the 15th Century.  

It is also possible that the cipher alternates, and the key to each cipher is located on different pages within, or has been lost.

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quiXilver

These two articles suggest much of it has been deciphered as a promo-romance language medical text.

Much of it devoted to herbal lore and some of it to women's health and was written using a form of latin abbreviations. 

 

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After looking at the so-called code for a while, Gibbs realized he was seeing a common form of medieval Latin abbreviations, often used in medical treatises about herbs. "From the herbarium incorporated into the Voynich manuscript, a standard pattern of abbreviations and ligatures emerged from each plant entry," he wrote. "The abbreviations correspond to the standard pattern of words used in the Herbarium Apuleius Platonicus – aq = aqua (water), dq = decoque / decoctio (decoction), con = confundo (mix), ris = radacis / radix (root), s aiij = seminis ana iij (3 grains each), etc." So this wasn't a code at all; it was just shorthand. The text would have been very familiar to anyone at the time who was interested in medicine.

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Further study of the herbs and images in the book reminded Gibbs of other Latin medical texts. When he consulted the Trotula and De Balneis Puteolanis, two commonly copied medieval Latin medical books, he realized that a lot of the Voynich Manuscript's text and images had been plagiarized directly from them (they, in turn, were copied in part from ancient Latin texts by Galen, Pliny, and Hippocrates). During the Middle Ages, it was very common for scribes to reproduce older texts to preserve the knowledge in them. There were no formal rules about copyright and authorship, and indeed books were extremely rare, so nobody complained.

 

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