Hanslune Posted October 19, 2020 #126 Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mello_ said: Open a thread. Geography and climate. Long story short. Too short, how did the 9th century collapse differ from the 2nd century one? Why did they not recover the second time? The Egyptians had three such 'collapses'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted October 20, 2020 #127 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 10:47 AM, Abramelin said: Did anyone read docyabut2's link? I think it is great But maybe I am easily impressed. Hi Abe Yes I did read it and thought it was interesting but am not well versed in this subject. jmccr8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 20, 2020 #128 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 8:18 PM, Mr Guitar said: Very little interests me as there are no 'aha' moments anymore. And I dislike little kids - that's why I never had any of my own. Most of my hobbies/activities have pretty much gone by the wayside because there's no point in getting involved in things when I'll be dead in a few years. I've never understood those folks who continue full bore at an advanced age like they're immortal, which they're not, but they don't seem to realize it. I figured out long ago that it will come to a screeching halt and have become at peace with that knowledge. I've been a pro/semi pro musician for about 50 of my 75 years but, lately, have lost interest because there's just no point in doing it any more and the virus has closed down all the venues where I used to work. I find it impossible to play for myself so I don't play at all. Everything that I've ever been good at and enjoyed like art and music have become a chore so it's time to settle back and wait for the end. You may not understand this but it's clear to me - it might be the PTSD talking but when you've been in war with people trying to kill you an a daily basis, your mind works in a different way. Maybe those folks who continue full bore do it because they know they are not immortal. It sounds like you are depressed. I wish you well and hope you feel better soon. I have a lot of relatives who lived past 90 and I plan on being one of those and expect, that like them, I will still be driving until I can no longer get away with it, as well as gardening, painting, playing the piano, cooking, traveling etc. You don't keep going as if you are immortal, you keep going because you are not immortal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 20, 2020 #129 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 9:15 PM, cladking said: I once believed this. I believed all things could be computed and reality was a clockwork. But then I discovered just how paltry human knowledge really is. None of the important predictions can be made and no important questions answered. There was no chance anything would change in my lifetime. Even though human knowledge is 10,000 greater than it was then we still know nothing. Intuition is more effective though less reliable. People have been deluded into believing in "laws of nature" and clockwork universes that simply don't exist. We are no closer to understanding gravity than we were decades ago. Indeed, it seems with some things that we are getting further away, The real problem with believing everything is known and science is omniscient is that it's easy to turn people into automatons in the service of others or the state. We are entering a new dark ages where people know ever less and things they must know are behind a paywall. But we have pocket computers now (called phones). Something we would not have thought of 80 years ago. Isn't that something you can consider amazing? Is there no joy in contemplating the important questions and realizing those questions have led you to understand more of your life or thoughts or the world than you did before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 20, 2020 #130 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 9:20 PM, cladking said: A great percentage of what science "knows" simply is not true or is only true in a left handed sort of way. Even what is true is true only within the parameters of experiment, definitions, and metaphysics. The phrase "science knows" or "science proves" is a fallacious concept. Science does not know anything as it is not a person. It is a method we use to explore and every year we find something new, something that shows us a different way of understanding something, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 20, 2020 #131 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 7:17 AM, jethrofloyd said: I think it’s a natural formation. It reminds me of ''The Yonaguni Monument''. I agree, it looks natural, like formations in caves and on mountains. I have not seen many photos of it though so am dependent on what I have seen to make my opinion. Maybe I will put this on my bucket list (35. overcome fear of drowning to learn how to scuba dive and visit this megalith) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 20, 2020 #132 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 7:47 AM, jethrofloyd said: This stone balls are also work of nature and time. Amazing! Like giant geodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 20, 2020 #133 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 8:33 PM, cladking said: ...and they can't think their way out of a paper bag. I used to work with a couple of programmers that couldn't code their way out of a paper bag. Thanks for the phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladking Posted October 20, 2020 #134 Share Posted October 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: I used to work with a couple of programmers that couldn't code their way out of a paper bag. Thanks for the phrase. Sounds like me. I was the world's worst programmer. My thinking was mostly intuitive even in those days. It was great experience and important but it ruined me for trying to use software. All people get in habits of thought and even "fresh thinking" sometimes is just a rehash of the same 'ol, same 'ol. It's easy to mistake a conclusion for an assumption and vice versa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 20, 2020 #135 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 7:19 PM, Hanslune said: Yes, but also in my experience the more you learn about a subject the more cracks, mysteries and mistakes are seen and questions that need to be answered cannot be. Not in the subject I went into. It all turned out to be psychological. A culmination of mental programming, a way of directing attention and the placebo/nocebo effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mello_ Posted October 21, 2020 #136 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 8:11 PM, Hanslune said: Too short, how did the 9th century collapse differ from the 2nd century one? Why did they not recover the second time? The Egyptians had three such 'collapses'. If you need more explaination open a thread. You somehow said contrdictontary thing. How 1st collapse was different from another. Meaning 1st wasnt collapse. Also if you will look that way we can argue did Maya collapse at all. Cuz those peeps still live. Collapse is known when happened. And why. Hot weather. Drought in south. Cuz of terrain. Peeps moved up. Wars and social collapse. Toltec war etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofloyd Posted October 30, 2020 #137 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH 370 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissJatti Posted October 31, 2020 #138 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Mothman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Invented Here Posted November 2, 2020 #139 Share Posted November 2, 2020 The burned house horizon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burned_house_horizon Why were houses regularly burned in SE Europe across apparently different cultures for thousands of years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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