Atlantis Explained!

[cormac mac airt]

1 minute ago, Abramelin said:

Even our Dennis Brooks wouldn't believe thàt 'theory'.

When his endgame is "If I can't dazzle them with brilliance I'll baffle them with bullscheisse" how can you tell? 

cormac

[Rojack]

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The Grand Temple

Note: The largest city of Atlantis was the grand city. It was on the Yucatan peninsula way up near the mountains. This city had two Temples. The Grand Temple was way up near the city. Another Great White-walled Temple was out on the Yucatan Peninsula closer to the Gulf of Mexico than to the city. The second largest city was the Florida Plain itself. This city also had its own temples. All the temples on the Plain were washed away by tsunami waves. However, some of the building foundations are still there. (Search for “Florida Ruins.”) This next section shows how Mexico and the Florida Plain are parts of Atlantis.

Phelon: On this plateau (Yucatan) of many acres in extent, where the gradually rising ground began to break into the foothills, the whole surface had been leveled and paved with some soft material, of which the Atlantans alone knew the secret. This hardened under the action of the sun and atmosphere, until it was like adamant.

Beyond the immense area (across the Gulf of Mexico) occupied by the grand city proper is still another city (Florida), comprising upwards of 75,000 square miles, which has been cultivated from time immemorial, and is in fact one vast garden. This city is liberally irrigated from the river (Mississippi) and from a canal 600 feet in width and 100 feet deep, extending through the country (plain) 1,2OO miles (This is the Indian River).

[Peter Cox]

On 2/16/2023 at 7:17 PM, Rojack said:

Plato’s Story

North America was the continent of Atlantis, Florida was the giant plain of Atlantis, and Tampa Florida was the first City of Atlantis. North America and South America made up the boundless continent Plato wrote about. According to him, the continent of Atlantis was divided into ten kingdoms or countries. The country of Atlantis was one of those ten kingdoms. From that point of view, all of Plato’s terrain features can be accounted for and verified. That includes the hill that held the royal palace which had three moats around it. Because of errors in Plato’s work, researchers assumed that the island of Atlantis was circular. That was a huge mistake. The moats were circular but the island is triangular! This article takes you to the small triangular island of Atlantis which is  still surrounded by three large canals.

Plato’s Story: http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html

Hahahaha, Errors in Plato's work. The only written reference to Atlantis is wrong. So we need to assume its all wrong as its the only source of Atlantis. Unless you can PROVE other writings in Egypt for example reference Atlantis 0they dont). Then you cant peddle Atlantis theories by stating Plato was wrong. 

[Peter Cox]

On 2/25/2023 at 10:51 PM, Rojack said:

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Plato was not the only one to write about Atlantis.

The Story of Atlantis, by William Phelon, M. D.:

 

The following excerpts were taken from different parts of his book and strung together to build somewhat of a cohesive story regarding the terrain features and their locations. You will find that Tampa, Florida was considered the first and the Great City of Atlantis and Mexico City was the largest and Grandest City of Atlantis.

Nope, if i wrote a book about Atlantis being in Kenya you would not take it seriously, so why would you take this one as? 

[Peter Cox]

On 2/23/2023 at 4:59 AM, Rojack said:

Plato: “And Poseidon, receiving for his lot the island of Atlantis, begat children by a mortal woman, and settled them in a part of the island, which I will describe.”

Answer: Plato used the terms “island, continent, and island-continent” interchangeably. He was referring to North America, Central America, and South America together as a boundless island continent. Later, you will find that he also referred to the Americas as the whole continent. North America was what Plato called the island-continent of Atlantis. A small island in the city was also called Atlantis. Knowing that information makes decoding lest confusing. If you can translate Greek to English, you are likely to better understand the languages and the errors Plato made. https://goo.gl/maps/qc5H3vzXhKj86ms38

Question: Where was the city of Atlantis?

Answer: The City of Atlantis and the royal city were on the Florida Plain, Tampa.

Question: Where is the small island of Atlantis?

Answer: The small island of Atlantis is in the city of Atlantis. It has three canals around it.  By the way, the small island is triangular, not circular. The canals are also straight, not circular.

Question: Where is the hill that held the royal castle?

Answer: The hill that held the royal castle is in the top righthand corner of the small triangular island. This hill once had three moats around it.

Question: Where is the plain of Atlantis?

Answer: The plain of Atlantis is now the Florida Plain. Florida is flat and even.

Question: Where is the great ditch Plato described?

Answer: Part of the ditch is now the Indian River.

You cant really believe this? its so far out there its laughable. 

[Peter Cox]

13 hours ago, Rojack said:

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The King’s Palace

(To the Southwest sets a series of mountains called the Sierra Madres.) From these mountains, the city of cities, extends in a circular form southward. The whole city is built of a pure white marble, taken from quarries in the Northern Hills, whose supplies are used not only for building at home, but also for export. So fine is the grain and so elegant the polish that the blocks are used over and over in rebuilding in the cities of the Mediterranean. This stone cannot endure the extremes of temperature of the Northern climate, but is amply strong for all that may be demanded under an Atlantean sky.

From what I have already said, perhaps it will be plain, the city is laid out like a disc, with a segment wanting, where it is fitted against the foothills of the Northern Mountain ranges.

"Broad avenues in semi-circle begin at the mountains and end in the mountains. These are crossed at regular intervals by other avenues, forming the radii of the circle, the center of which is the King’s palace.

Note: The King’s Palace is now El Caracol, Texcoco in Mexico City. Visit it to see if it matches Phelon’s description of the king’s palace:

https://goo.gl/maps/fbBdJwnRRLA2 Zoom in and zoom out to examine this feature and the surrounding area.

Having thus far advanced in the description of the most wonderful city ever known to man, permit me to quote from the words of one who saw what he so fluently and graphically describes for you:

 

We are getting to the "Stand up comedy" section of this thread now. 

[Windowpane]

3 hours ago, Peter Cox said:

... Atlantis being in Kenya ...

Er ...

[Peter Cox]

32 minutes ago, Windowpane said:

Er ...

hahahahah maybe should have checked this lol. Im pretty sure every continent has some crazy person saying Atlantis is there. 

[Piney]

5 hours ago, Rojack said:

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The Grand Temple

Note: The largest city of Atlantis was the grand city. It was on the Yucatan peninsula way up near the mountains. This city had two Temples. The Grand Temple was way up near the city. Another Great White-walled Temple was out on the Yucatan Peninsula closer to the Gulf of Mexico than to the city. The second largest city was the Florida Plain itself. This city also had its own temples. All the temples on the Plain were washed away by tsunami waves. However, some of the building foundations are still there. (Search for “Florida Ruins.”) This next section shows how Mexico and the Florida Plain are parts of Atlantis.

Phelon: On this plateau (Yucatan) of many acres in extent, where the gradually rising ground began to break into the foothills, the whole surface had been leveled and paved with some soft material, of which the Atlantans alone knew the secret. This hardened under the action of the sun and atmosphere, until it was like adamant.

Beyond the immense area (across the Gulf of Mexico) occupied by the grand city proper is still another city (Florida), comprising upwards of 75,000 square miles, which has been cultivated from time immemorial, and is in fact one vast garden. This city is liberally irrigated from the river (Mississippi) and from a canal 600 feet in width and 100 feet deep, extending through the country (plain) 1,2OO miles (This is the Indian River).

You failed middle school geography, didn't you.....

[The Puzzler]

17 hours ago, Abramelin said:

That's the creator of the Atlantipedia site. He stopped with his website after he himself published hìs book about Atlantis. Twas kind of disappointing.

Did you check all the others mentioned on that page?

Yeah, I scanned it…it was like a Native American UM name, what was it!? It’s driving me crazy.

[The Puzzler]

6 hours ago, Rojack said:

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The Grand Temple

Note: The largest city of Atlantis was the grand city. It was on the Yucatan peninsula way up near the mountains. This city had two Temples. The Grand Temple was way up near the city. Another Great White-walled Temple was out on the Yucatan Peninsula closer to the Gulf of Mexico than to the city. The second largest city was the Florida Plain itself. This city also had its own temples. All the temples on the Plain were washed away by tsunami waves. However, some of the building foundations are still there. (Search for “Florida Ruins.”) This next section shows how Mexico and the Florida Plain are parts of Atlantis.

Phelon: On this plateau (Yucatan) of many acres in extent, where the gradually rising ground began to break into the foothills, the whole surface had been leveled and paved with some soft material, of which the Atlantans alone knew the secret. This hardened under the action of the sun and atmosphere, until it was like adamant.

Beyond the immense area (across the Gulf of Mexico) occupied by the grand city proper is still another city (Florida), comprising upwards of 75,000 square miles, which has been cultivated from time immemorial, and is in fact one vast garden. This city is liberally irrigated from the river (Mississippi) and from a canal 600 feet in width and 100 feet deep, extending through the country (plain) 1,2OO miles (This is the Indian River).

I don’t find it that crazy tbh. I mean it is directly west from the Pillars, you’ve obviously done a lot of research.

Some people used to say, Plato wasn’t the only source for Atlantis…Edgar Cayce had a version, but I tend to look at it differently but hey, why not go for it.

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

26 minutes ago, The Puzzler said:

I don’t find it that crazy tbh. I mean it is directly west from the Pillars, you’ve obviously done a lot of research.

Looking at a map and making stuff up is not research.

26 minutes ago, The Puzzler said:

Some people used to say, Plato wasn’t the only source for Atlantis…Edgar Cayce had a version, but I tend to look at it differently but hey, why not go for it.

Its a really bad idea to use Edgar Cayce as a source if you want people to take you seriously.

Edited February 27, 2023 by Noteverythingisaconspiracy

[The Puzzler]

3 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

Looking at a map and making stuff up is not research.

Its a really bad idea to use Edgar Cayce as a source if you want people to take you seriously.

I don’t use him as a source personally, just saying. 

[The Puzzler]

What we have is a totally unreal situation created by Plato, that’s what makes it so interesting, you can come up with what you like and it’s never wrong.

Nothing in the story can be corroborated so it’s almost meaningless to dismiss what Rojack is saying.

The whole thing is a misnomer.

[Piney]

1 hour ago, The Puzzler said:

I don’t find it that crazy tbh. I mean it is directly west from the Pillars, you’ve obviously done a lot of research.

Some people used to say, Plato wasn’t the only source for Atlantis…Edgar Cayce had a version, but I tend to look at it differently but hey, why not go for it.

Edgar Cayce also said I was a member of something called the "Red Race" who came from that island in the Atlantic and mixed with Hebrews in the Yucatan when I'm genetically the same as the Manchu and Koreans. 

[Piney]

20 hours ago, The Puzzler said:

No, seriously who was that guy who had the Atlantis America theory years ago, he was quite solid with it….I want to direct Rojack to the link.

The Columbian Exchange after 1492 negates any solid evidence of Atlantis in the Americas.

During that time 1/3rds of the plants and animals went extinct and were replaced along with over 2/3rds of the population who had no resistance to zoonotic diseases.

[The Puzzler]

20 hours ago, Abramelin said:

That's to prevent bots clogg the search.

Damn bots.

[Rojack]

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The Great Plaza and Grand Temple

In the northeastern part of the Continent was a group of rocky mountains (near the grand city). These rocks reached far down beneath the ordinary level of the soil. They seem to have been buttressed up, apparently from the very center of the earth itself, but that it was not so, appeared by the future events (the sinking of Atlantis). But in any event they were strong enough to hold tons upon tons of piled up rock in whatever shape it might appear.

So, first the rocks were cut down to a level, and a huge plaza was thus cleared from east to west, in such a fashion that both the rising and the setting sun could be seen from any part there of. Also, the North Star and the Southern Cross, each low in the heavens could be seen by anyone standing upon the Plaza. The human view was unobstructed from horizon to horizon, so far as the power of the eye could penetrate. This plaza was ample enough to hold in its confines every single member of the Atlantean nation at one time. It was many acres in extent. It is wonderful how many people can stand on one acre, if they are only harmonious.

Note: See the grand Plaza of Atlantis and the Grand Temple. They are now Teotihuacan and the Pyramid of the sun. Use the link below.

Phelon: This great plaza was necessary for the Convocations, and the yearly ceremonies when all the people went up to the (grand) Temple to receive guidance and instruction for the coming year. This Convocation was always at the time of the Vernal Equinox when renewed impetus comes both to the vegetable and the animal.

Note: Visit the Great Plaza near Mexico City. Use the keyword “Teotihuacan.” Try this image link: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/SSA41434.JPG, Notice the great Plaza.

 

[cormac mac airt]

This thread should be closed IMO as the OP ignores anything from other posters and has recently gone into copy/pasting the text of someone from a century ago who knew nothing about ancient history. 
 

cormac

[Trelane]

4 hours ago, Rojack said:

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The Great Plaza and Grand Temple

 

No.

[Rojack]

The Great Plaza

Phelon: At the northeast corner, as I have already mentioned, on the foundations of solid rock, reaching far down into the earth, was builded story after story a tower, upon this tower’s top was located the tallest observatory that has ever been known in the world. There, they who were wise, and who were considered best, after having passed triumphantly through the intricacies, the education and unfolding of the lower degrees, kept constant ward and watch. Out of this tower, at its lower part, proceeded forth over the great area, the wall of the Temple in closing the Great Hall of Convocation, and the Temple proper, and from the Holy of Holies at the bottom of the tower, Light, Strength and Force, at times of Convocation, streamed forth as the result of the united power of the Three, Five, Seven, Fifteen and Forty-five.

Looking from the plaza in front, toward the interior of the Temple, its vast recesses, its forests of white pillars and its high-lifted over-arching roof fills the spectator with awe. Nor was this feeling lessened by the cleanliness, the continuous shifting of huge masses of sunlight and shadow, ever into new and indescribable grotesquerie. During the services the awful solemnity evoked was of a character that modified the whole Atlantean thought and national purpose.

 

Beyond the great plaza, toward the city, trees and fountains shaded and beautified clear up to the naked edge of the vast pavement. This is a faint portrayal of that which was really the culmination and concentration of the Nation’s thousands of years of existence and unfolding.

 

Our Magi say, that in days to come, a nation on the Mediterranean Sea called the Greeks, will personify in their works of art, our beloved city as a beautiful woman rising from the sea.

[jmccr8]

On 2/26/2023 at 8:38 AM, The Puzzler said:

No, seriously who was that guy who had the Atlantis America theory years ago, he was quite solid with it….I want to direct Rojack to the link.

Hi Puzzler

was it Draconic Chronicler

[cormac mac airt]

12 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Puzzler

was it Draconic Chronicler

Blasphemy! 

cormac

[Peter Cox]

4 hours ago, Rojack said:

The Great Plaza

Phelon: At the northeast corner, as I have already mentioned, on the foundations of solid rock, reaching far down into the earth, was builded story after story a tower, upon this tower’s top was located the tallest observatory that has ever been known in the world. There, they who were wise, and who were considered best, after having passed triumphantly through the intricacies, the education and unfolding of the lower degrees, kept constant ward and watch. Out of this tower, at its lower part, proceeded forth over the great area, the wall of the Temple in closing the Great Hall of Convocation, and the Temple proper, and from the Holy of Holies at the bottom of the tower, Light, Strength and Force, at times of Convocation, streamed forth as the result of the united power of the Three, Five, Seven, Fifteen and Forty-five.

Looking from the plaza in front, toward the interior of the Temple, its vast recesses, its forests of white pillars and its high-lifted over-arching roof fills the spectator with awe. Nor was this feeling lessened by the cleanliness, the continuous shifting of huge masses of sunlight and shadow, ever into new and indescribable grotesquerie. During the services the awful solemnity evoked was of a character that modified the whole Atlantean thought and national purpose.

 

Beyond the great plaza, toward the city, trees and fountains shaded and beautified clear up to the naked edge of the vast pavement. This is a faint portrayal of that which was really the culmination and concentration of the Nation’s thousands of years of existence and unfolding.

 

Our Magi say, that in days to come, a nation on the Mediterranean Sea called the Greeks, will personify in their works of art, our beloved city as a beautiful woman rising from the sea.

Still nope....

Answer question and stop posting nonsense please. You are a master of making up fictional stories and references.

Your lack of basic geography skills and understanding is astounding. 

Ill say it again you are either a troll or VERY ignorant to facts.  

[Saru]

@Rojack - please avoid just copy and pasting excerpts from a book; as others have mentioned, the emphasis should be on discussing the topic.

Thank you.