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InconceivableThoughts
33 minutes ago, stereologist said:

Here is another one.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2015432

First was heart. Now lungs. Two different journals.

Ok I scanned through them the best with my limited knowledge of the medical terminology. What I gathered was that there is some evidence of damage after the initial recovery though more studies need to be done. While I wont claim to this to be false I will say that it is way to small of a study to determine anything defiently. So as I said in my first post about there being zero proof until undeniable evidence comes to light. I still feel its fear mongering. I have several friends that have contracted the virus and while they supposedly have full recoveries more evidence(time, research) must be done to actually determine if there actually is any long term side effects.

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I'm not unreasonable or stupid guys. Talk to me, if im misinformed, cite something I will read it. Its just I'm a sceptic to certain things especially when it involves money. Humans are very decietful and manipulative when it comes to getting what they want. But until undeniable proof comes around aaswell as me seeing a healthy 25-60 year old drop dead from this I wont consider it deadly. Now Ebola thats a bad one.

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bee
4 hours ago, InconceivableThoughts said:

IMO bee is correct. This virus is not that deadly. The numbers are inflated . I mean anyone thats on deaths doorstep that dies from covid gets put into the covid deaths. Which makes no sense when trying to tell if a virus is deadly or not. More covid cases means more funding for hospitals.  So why not claim that everyone that contracts covid and then dies , that it was because of the covid? When in fact they would of died to any number of things. Also the reason americas morality rate is so high is because many cases go untested while only the severe cases are tested. Meaning that there alot of people with covid that dont even know they have it. How is a virus deadly when you cant even tell you have it?https://time.com/5798168/coronavirus-mortality-rate/

 

thanks - (and for the rest of your posts)...

there are so many angles to all this - one of them what you said ... bolded above...

IMO the hype is all about the manipulation of data and creating the perception that the virus is so much worse than what it is...

all the deaths that come from complications are only a tiny % of the whole population....

there is a bit of a push as we have seen in the last few posts to scare people into worrying that even healthy people and / or those who make a good recovery might MIGHT have some kind of long term damage to an organ... although all parts of the body will take time to recover and fully settle down after getting a wallop from it,,,,,, and as with the death toll - I would fully expect just a tiny % to be affected if it turns out to be a real problem - and even if a few people are affected more long term... we can't shut down society and economies and play cat and mouse with a virus for ever... that is so illogical and plain crazy....

:tu:

 

 

 

 

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Setton
1 hour ago, InconceivableThoughts said:

Insecure? Can you tell me whats wrong with you?

I'm troubled by this need for facts over unsubstantiated fantasies.

You don't know how lucky you are not to suffer such an affliction.

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You must be very bored to sit on a site all day trolling.

Mate, I've been on here twice today. You've been posting non stop all day.

But, you know, you work harder than anyone right? :lol:

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Setton
1 hour ago, InconceivableThoughts said:

I said one idea.

A stupid one.

As I very easily showed.

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bee

 

I noticed that the tweet about the World Doctors Alliance that I put in the OP has now gone (been deleted by twitter)...

here's another one...

 

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Wepwawet
22 minutes ago, bee said:

 

I noticed that the tweet about the World Doctors Alliance that I put in the OP has now gone (been deleted by twitter)...

here's another one...

 

Removed already...

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Setton
33 minutes ago, bee said:

 

I noticed that the tweet about the World Doctors Alliance that I put in the OP has now gone (been deleted by twitter)...

here's another one...

 

 

10 minutes ago, Wepwawet said:

Removed already...

Unbelievable.

It's like they have some kind of policy against deliberate misinformation!

Maybe UM should adopt something similar...

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bee
27 minutes ago, Wepwawet said:

Removed already...

oh -

I can still see it... 

it's more or less just an introduction of the core group of the World Doctors Alliance... though...

this is their own website..

https://worlddoctorsalliance.com/

 

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InconceivableThoughts
4 hours ago, toast said:

Wrong.

Cite

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InconceivableThoughts
1 hour ago, Setton said:

I'm troubled by this need for facts over unsubstantiated fantasies.

You don't know how lucky you are not to suffer such an affliction.

Mate, I've been on here twice today. You've been posting non stop all day.

But, you know, you work harder than anyone right? :lol:

im about tired of these attacks for no reason. I have not spread any misimformation. Only my opinion on the matter. Many of you people on this site need to realize your not always correct especially on something that is subjective like deciding if a disease is serious or not. Its completly subjective if i use the correct numbers. Which I have (well I was off .75 on first attempt).

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InconceivableThoughts
2 hours ago, Setton said:

A stupid one.

As I very easily showed.

How did you show that? Wow aren't you smug. There has always been tampering with election polls. If there is possible way someone can cheat to win in something they will. That is almost fact. So how is it a stupid assumption? Can you not understand how easily voting fraud can be when it comes to mail in ballots?

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the13bats

After 10 pages of people being mean to each other ive taken from this thread, some overreact to covid some underreact.

 

 

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InconceivableThoughts
45 minutes ago, the13bats said:

After 10 pages of people being mean to each other ive taken from this thread, some overreact to covid some underreact.

 

 

I'll go with that. Although i feel some people on this site should choose their route of educating people more wisely. Insulting people always will be counter productive to anything thats trying to be accomplished.

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simplybill
9 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

For the most part the U.S. already has socialist programs 

Hi Desertrat56:
Social programs and Socialist government are two separate things. Social Security, museums, road construction, etc. are government-funded programs.

Obamacare, before the Supreme Court struck down the unconstitutional segments, was the textbook definition of Socialist governance:
“a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state“.  (Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
 

The reason we on the right are so reluctant to accept government-controlled Healthcare is because the government would have been in control of 18% of the American economy, with the potential to extend into other areas of production simply by controlling industries that produce medical equipment, pharmaceuticals, and hospital-related construction projects, to name a few. 
 

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the13bats
3 hours ago, InconceivableThoughts said:

I'll go with that. Although i feel some people on this site should choose their route of educating people more wisely. Insulting people always will be counter productive to anything thats trying to be accomplished.

Sure, doesnt much matter which end of covid a person is on if they get all condesending in their scolding the other person it wont work.

You are a dumbass for wearing a mask, you are a dumbass for not wearing a mask,

Neither route is going to float.

And i wont even get into the ones who covid is just another tool for their political stance.

 

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Arbenol
On 10/20/2020 at 8:35 PM, bee said:

 

The World Doctors Alliance are just one group of doctors / health professionals trying to get a different message out about what's going on and recommend a different approach...

There is also the Great Barrington Declaration for example...

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-cant-we-talk-about-the-great-barrington-declaration

 

 

Hi Bee. Are you aware that one of the signatories on the Great Barrington Declaration is a Dr. Harold Shipman?

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Setton
5 hours ago, InconceivableThoughts said:

I'll go with that. Although i feel some people on this site should choose their route of educating people more wisely. Insulting people always will be counter productive to anything thats trying to be accomplished.

You think anyone actually expects a conspiracy theorist crackpot to change their mind just because they're presented with actual evidence?

No. We're calling you out so that others who aren't as fanatical don't get dragged into believing your unsupported lies.

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Setton
7 hours ago, InconceivableThoughts said:

im about tired of these attacks for no reason. I have not spread any misimformation. Only my opinion on the matter. 

Your opinion does not match the facts. 

Pointing that out is not an attack.

If you think otherwise, use the report button.

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Setton
7 hours ago, InconceivableThoughts said:

How did you show that? Wow aren't you smug. There has always been tampering with election polls. If there is possible way someone can cheat to win in something they will. That is almost fact. So how is it a stupid assumption? Can you not understand how easily voting fraud can be when it comes to mail in ballots?

Occam.

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7 hours ago, InconceivableThoughts said:

im about tired of these attacks for no reason. I have not spread any misimformation. (...)

13 hours ago, InconceivableThoughts said:

(...) Again this disease is not deadly.  (..)

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1 hour ago, Arbenol said:

Hi Bee. Are you aware that one of the signatories on the Great Barrington Declaration is a Dr. Harold Shipman?

 

there are at least 7 Dr Harold Shipmans apparently....(random link)
people messing with petitions and voting ballots is nothing new - I expect Mickey Mouse gets quite a few votes to be president -

on this occasion some people would put fake names just for a laugh and others would do it so people looking for bias confirmation can go .... 'oooo there isn't as much support as they say....'

enabling them to carry on sleepwalking into the Orwellian Future planned for us clutching their big bag of Blue Pills...  ^_^

red pill - blue pill - wiki

 

 

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