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New Zealand Jacinda Ardern wins second term

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Jacinda Ardern has won a second term as New Zealand's Prime Minister after her success at handling the country's coronavirus outbreak helped secure a landslide victory.

With 87% of the votes counted, Ardern's center-left Labour Party has won 48.9% of the vote, meaning her party looks likely to score the highest result that any party has achieved since the current political system was introduced in 1996.

"Tonight, New Zealand has shown the Labour Party its greatest support in at least 50 years," Ardern said in a powerful victory speech on Saturday night where she referred to the difficult times ahead for New Zealand. "And I can promise you: we will be a party that governs for every New Zealander."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/17/asia/new-zealand-election-2020-results-intl-hnk/index.html

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spud the mackem

A good win ,she is a very sensible person ,best wishes to her .

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acute

What a brilliant, amazing, compassionate, competent, row of teeth this woman is.

What do we have over here?   Boris. :hmm:

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Kismit

A lot of big changes took place last night. Labour can officially govern alone , however they will most likely take the 10 Green party seats, and the single Maori party seat nto form a coalition.  

The other major party has lost almost all power, it would be like the Democrats winning the senate and a majority of the house, with Bernie and AOC holding significantly more power than the republicans. Sheeesh we will be full socialist in no time.

Not really, we have bigger worries than that to deal with. The next 12 months are going to see, food bills and housing costs sky rocket. Let's hope they can keep that under control. 

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Aroundthecorner

Not that popular here in WA, another load of Kiwis snuck in via the trans route from Sydney all infected, 

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DingoLingo
12 hours ago, Aroundthecorner said:

Not that popular here in WA, another load of Kiwis snuck in via the trans route from Sydney all infected, 

that was a fault with the federal gov mate :)

 

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Golden Duck
On 10/17/2020 at 10:48 PM, Still Waters said:

With 87% of the votes counted, Ardern's center-left Labour Party has won 48.9% of the vote, meaning her party looks likely to score the highest result that any party has achieved since the current political system was introduced in 1996.

Can a Kiwi explain Mixed Member Proportional Voting??  Is it effectively voting for an ideology as well as a person?  It looks almost like NZ has two houses in one.

Here's the results.  The Greens pick up more of a say through unrepresentative votes.

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Arbenol
49 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

Can a Kiwi explain Mixed Member Proportional Voting??  Is it effectively voting for an ideology as well as a person?  It looks almost like NZ has two houses in one.

Here's the results.  The Greens pick up more of a say through unrepresentative votes.

 

 

There are 120 seats in parliament and 72 electorates. Everybody gets two votes. One is for a candidate standing in your electorate, the other is the party vote. So the first 72 MPs are elected directly by their electoral constituents. That leaves 48 seats that are filled by the proportion of party votes each party gets. Theses MPs (list MPs) are pre-selected and ranked by their parties. So the Green Party won 9 list seats, these will go to the first 9 candidates on their list. Along with the one electorate they won, they will have 10 MPs in parliament.

It's a little more complicated but that's essentially it.

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Hugh Mungus
58 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

Can a Kiwi explain Mixed Member Proportional Voting??  Is it effectively voting for an ideology as well as a person?  It looks almost like NZ has two houses in one.

Here's the results.  The Greens pick up more of a say through unrepresentative votes.

 

 

The problem with the NZ system is that if the party you vote for does not get 5 percent of the vote your vote gets thrown in the bin. That is unless your party wins an electorate seat, which is uncommon. 

Around 7 and a half percent of the votes were discarded for this reason, with the other parties redistributing their representation evenly. I.e Labour won around 49 percent of the vote yet get more than half of the seats in parliament (64/120) due to the wasted and redistributed votes. 

I think this system would do well combined with ranked voting, so that if your party doesnt get 5 percent, you choose which party gets your redistributed vote.

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