Holyspirit Posted October 18, 2020 #1 Share Posted October 18, 2020 More in Depth: Hi I'm Tom, Over the past 11 years I have posted that I cracked the Voynich Manuscript, I tell you those past posts were not correct. Your probably wondering why I believe this post to be correct that I finally may have partially cracked some information from the Voynich Manuscript. You will have to read this post, The Voynich Manuscript I believe is a jumbled, scrambled, gibberish text yet behind it retains meaning. One can obscure text with gibberish text that each gibberish word is a different length and those gibberish words have random letter order. No cipher can solve someones original work when the decoder does not have the list of words that is associated with the gibberish words. Anyway here is what I believe regarding the Voynich Manuscript, The worlds most misunderstood book! Themes to realize. These dates fit the Carbon dating below for the Voynich Manuscript which was dated between 1404-1438. The Zodiac Series, someone has written down the month's in the French Language so the Agincourt Connection with Henry V and the French is plausable. Towards the pursuit of finding meaning with the Voynich Manuscript as we are all here for. Lately I have gone over the possibility regarding how the Voynich was copied from an original Latin work, perhaps from a traveling doctor. The Doctor sought to conceal the VMS with meaningless text, however he held on to a separate list like a dictionary. I brain stormed for a few days thinking about provenance, Author type, geography and where in the VMS I could possibly find a possible clue. Folio 67r2 does look like a Zodiac, so I thought would it be about an a big event or for a persons horoscope. Since f67r2 was surrounded by waning 3/4 moons I figured it was for a big event. The planets match up very well with the Zodiac presentation I provided. Also, if one studies the Voynich you will know that in the horoscope series, it starts with Pisces with f70v1 and ends with Sagittarius as f73v! For reasons I don't understand Sagittarius leans in the 1st house of the Zodiac and I think it might have a connection to f67r2. Anyway I determined that by the waning 3/4 moons and by the planets alignments to the inner circle words which might be planets for f67r2 that this represented The Battle of Agincourt on October 25, 1415 and I speculate a Doctor drew this up at 8 am three hours before the battle sprung into action. 3/4 Moon waning is a Last Quarter: Year New Moon First Quarter Full Moon Last Quarter 1415 Jan 3 05:44 Jan 11 06:37 Jan 18 07:57 Jan 25 06:36 Feb 2 03:16 Feb 9 20:40 Feb 16 15:24 Feb 23 21:13 Mar 3 23:39 Mar 11 07:46 Mar 17 23:11 Mar 25 12:36 Apr 2 17:05 Apr 9 16:34 Apr 16 08:03 Apr 24 04:25 May 2 06:38 May 9 00:03 May 15 18:35 May 23 20:10 May 31 16:28 Jun 7 07:12 T Jun 14 07:13 Jun 22 11:07 p Jun 29 23:27 Jul 6 14:52 Jul 13 22:17 Jul 22 00:39 Jul 29 04:54 Aug 4 23:53 Aug 12 15:41 Aug 20 12:38 Aug 27 10:13 Sep 3 11:05 Sep 11 10:40 Sep 18 23:28 Sep 25 16:40 Oct 3 01:11 Oct 11 05:49 Oct 18 09:52 Oct 25 01:24 Nov 1 18:24 Nov 9 23:33 Nov 16 20:28 Nov 23 13:13 Dec 1 13:53 A Dec 9 14:43 Dec 16 07:25 n Dec 23 04:30 Dec 31 09:43 To further the evidence regarding provenance of the Voynich Manuscript from my perspective while examining the Zodiac series, in September for f72v3 Henry the V was born in September and the image does look like a King wearing royal blue. Here is Henry the V in a painting wearing Royal Blue. Again notice the 8 pointed star in his hand which could refer to f67r2. Another coincidence within the Voynich Manuscript Zodiac series is that there is a Lion in Scorpio's place with a string attached to its mouth which holds a similar 8 pointed star for the Zodiac of f67r2 in the Voynich Manuscript. The Battle of Agincourt began at 11 am and ended at 2 pm. The sun was in Scorpio and the French lost, well the Sun is the planet for Leo the Lion. Coincidently Henry the V's banner, three Lions can be seen on it. End of Battle at Agincourt: Finally, the Gemini sections depicts a wedding in the Voynich, Gemini is known for June. The Gemini depicts a wedding for June. Henry the V was married on June 2 1420 and Married Princess Catherine from France, Charles VI of France King of France was her father. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted October 18, 2020 #2 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I see the joke of the manuscript still pulls in suckers. —Jaylemurph 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free99 Posted October 18, 2020 #3 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Man people put allot of work into this old book. I’ve studied scans of it for years on and off and was left as baffled as before I started. You can tell they knew enough about writing in the way they laid it out. Many of the letters they made up slightly resemble other written forms of text. It was either written as a code to transport information. Or it’s linked to some extinct isolated language. Perhaps the last person on Earth that could read and write it. Without other examples it’s a dead end. I don’t think the drawings have anything to do with the writing on each page. The text could be nothing but a distraction from the message hidden in the art. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted October 18, 2020 #4 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I thought this was really cool first time i saw it and i assumed it would be solved then as i learned more i have no idea if it is even something that can be solved, Possibilities would include a type of what i will call organized chaos, a person for example jots down a random bunch of characters that to them means something but has no code key because its theirs alone, not meant to be decoded. Another thing is like with other ciphers like zodiac many times the same one was decoded various ways with the person saying they just know their way is the right way, and they all could have fit With the voynich if a person tries long and works hard enough they might come up with something that fits but as you said tom, your past tries failed but now you are there, i do believe it will take an obsessed cat like yourself to break it, again if it can be, Free99 came up with some very interesting slants, perhaps the pictures and text do not go together how would you prove they did? many years back i keep a little daily diary, it was only simple symbols perhaps a number or letter, and i highly doubt anyone could decode it as they would have to start by assuming a lot, Example one day a triangle meant i had a headache, a triangle with dot was optical migraine, but which way is it clocked why or how would a decoder even guess that triangle mean i had a headache rather than i ate tuna salad for lunch, with zero to go on its just guessing, otherwise tell me what a square meant, see, its just a shot in the dark guess, thats pretty much what decoding the vonich is, but dont give up who knows you might nail it, proving you nailed it is another story. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted October 18, 2020 #5 Share Posted October 18, 2020 There’s nothing to “translate.” There never was. That’s the joke. It’s a type of elaborate Renaissance joke. The OP merely opened this thread here because he couldn’t gin up any interest in another forum. —Jaylemurph 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyspirit Posted October 18, 2020 Author #6 Share Posted October 18, 2020 6 hours ago, jaylemurph said: There’s nothing to “translate.” There never was. That’s the joke. It’s a type of elaborate Renaissance joke. The OP merely opened this thread here because he couldn’t gin up any interest in another forum. —Jaylemurph Jay, regardless of interest you obviously took the time to write in here, I agree the text is probably gibberish, but that does not mean behind it there is no coherent information believe it or not. It is possible to mask a writing with gibberish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mello_ Posted October 19, 2020 #7 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Voynich is just a secret code. Many of them exists. Voynich is just overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerymcd Posted December 15, 2021 #8 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) i went to astrologer, he checked my lifepath number and tell that you life path number is master number 22. But he didn't say what is Master number 22. i am curies to know what is master number 22, so I check on internet and found this In numerology 22 is classified "the Number of the Master Teacher." It is the second of the three Master Numbers (the other two are 11 and 33). These numbers have added otherworldly importance, and are incredibly propitious for those brought into the world under them. The way significance of 22 is amazingly incredible. Individuals brought into the world on this Life Path have a significantly upgraded otherworldly agreement contrasted with the non-Master Numbers. 22 additionally shows an improved capacity to apply your profound comprehension to viable finishes, which is the reason individuals on this Life Path are frequently so fruitful in their down to earth adventures just as their otherworldly ones. Ace Numbers can be additionally decreased to single-digit numbers (11 to 2, 22 to 4, and 33 to 6), so you might have a few characteristics of the comparing single-digit number supplementing the characteristics you have from your Master Number. Edited December 15, 2021 by jerymcd 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freez1 Posted December 16, 2021 #9 Share Posted December 16, 2021 My guess is this was written by someone who spied and apparently spied on everything from weddings to cures for illness. And they had a way of decoding it rather by memory or written down. But it never made it to the hands it was intended for and who ever took it could never read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperionxvii Posted December 28, 2021 #10 Share Posted December 28, 2021 On 10/18/2020 at 12:10 AM, jaylemurph said: I see the joke of the manuscript still pulls in suckers. —Jaylemurph But if you post a wall of text with diagrams and charts, that proves it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptoGirl Posted January 2, 2022 #11 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Quote On 10/17/2020 at 7:50 PM, Holyspirit said: The date of the copied manuscript does not lead to the date of when this was written or why and could be very old. I think your on to whom copied it and their history but its not telling of what is being told in the manuscript. For all we know it could be connected to Tepe . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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