Chronus Posted October 22, 2020 #51 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, stereologist said: So you more in line with the older stories, the original ones. Notice that the statue in WV of the Mothman is a more modern version with arms. https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/mothman-statue Yeah I know they made the statue look different. And cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted October 22, 2020 #52 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, Chronus said: Yeah I know they made the statue look different. And cooler. Yes to some extent but the arms are due to one of the early eyewitnesses adding arms over time. The arms are not an artistic addition, but due to witnesses that originally reported no arms to later adding arms to the description. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted October 22, 2020 #53 Share Posted October 22, 2020 56 minutes ago, stereologist said: Yes to some extent but the arms are due to one of the early eyewitnesses adding arms over time. The arms are not an artistic addition, but due to witnesses that originally reported no arms to later adding arms to the description. Oh I thought it was just put on the statue by the guys who made it for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted October 22, 2020 #54 Share Posted October 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, Chronus said: Oh I thought it was just put on the statue by the guys who made it for whatever reason. It's changes to the stories that happen over time which is why I find it so interesting that you more inclined to the version that is the oldest report. The oldest reports tend to be the more important reports. Later reports from the same person diverging from the original story are pretty common. It's actually the norm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted October 22, 2020 #55 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, stereologist said: It's changes to the stories that happen over time which is why I find it so interesting that you more inclined to the version that is the oldest report. The oldest reports tend to be the more important reports. Later reports from the same person diverging from the original story are pretty common. It's actually the norm. I've spent most of my life (admittedly short so far) reading and watching everything about the paranormal and cryptids, so I've heard of both versions of moth man. I knew if I said I liked the version with arms you'd say that was thought up over time or something. No offense of course. Most of the time I just take tge description as it is and leave it be. Edited October 22, 2020 by Chronus The* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted October 23, 2020 #56 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Mothman went from likely owl to a superhero looking creature, Chupra wasnt as fun it went from a wild lil monster to a bald dog 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted October 24, 2020 #57 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 7:52 AM, Iilaa'mpuul'xem said: There have been tales of a large winged creature spotted on Morton Road. CAROL STREAM, IL — If you thought you were done hearing reports of a giant winged creature terrorizing Chicago and its suburbs, think again. Most recently, reports have come out that a bat-winged creature has been spotted in none other than Carol Stream. Are the reports real? Read on and decide for yourself. Read More: HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt221 Posted October 26, 2020 #58 Share Posted October 26, 2020 A better end to that prank would be if someone grabbed that skeleton chucked it on the deck smashing all that blokes handiwork into little pieces then one last shot of him sitting amongst the wreckage crying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted October 27, 2020 #59 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On 10/24/2020 at 11:02 AM, Jon the frog said: Ive seen videos like these where the spookie is being trolleied by a quad copter in full frame its not as cool looking and i believe most of the people are acting, not scared or, 6 hours ago, Matt221 said: A better end to that prank would be if someone grabbed that skeleton chucked it on the deck smashing all that blokes handiwork into little pieces then one last shot of him sitting amongst the wreckage crying ^ this is just what would happen, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted October 27, 2020 #60 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Nanana nanana nah BATSQUATCH Or manbearpig had grown wings. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted October 28, 2020 #61 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 4:05 PM, Chronus said: I've spent most of my life (admittedly short so far) reading and watching everything about the paranormal and cryptids, so I've heard of both versions of moth man. I knew if I said I liked the version with arms you'd say that was thought up over time or something. No offense of course. Most of the time I just take tge description as it is and leave it be. Paying attention to the first reports and primary sources is often the best way to understand a story. These changes over time are seen in all sorts of stories from UFOs, to ghosts, to actual events, and especially stories about fish that were almost caught. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted October 28, 2020 #62 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, stereologist said: Paying attention to the first reports and primary sources is often the best way to understand a story. These changes over time are seen in all sorts of stories from UFOs, to ghosts, to actual events, and especially stories about fish that were almost caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted October 28, 2020 #63 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, stereologist said: Paying attention to the first reports and primary sources is often the best way to understand a story. These changes over time are seen in all sorts of stories from UFOs, to ghosts, to actual events, and especially stories about fish that were almost caught. Yep, rozwell is a great one, a rancher finds weather balloon radar target wreckage, his orginal report to the sherriff confims that then by the 80s we had a story of multi crafts aliens being such crap pilots they collide, bodies are found, etc, But hey, glen dennis made a great living for decades off his made up BS others too, profits and attention are king. ( truth? What truth? ) Edited October 28, 2020 by the13bats added 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted October 30, 2020 #64 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Those that do not understand the importance of primary sources and first reports are doomed to be failures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted October 31, 2020 #65 Share Posted October 31, 2020 6 hours ago, stereologist said: Those that do not understand the importance of primary sources and first reports are doomed to be failures. Ecology seems to be a mystery to them too. Unless bigfoot survives on pine needles he doesn't seem to have an impact on the ecosystem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted November 1, 2020 #66 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) Just moved to a fairly tropical area on the coast and have fruit bats that look the size of my Jack Russell with wings,lol, coming in on the fruit trees at night.My hunting dogs have never seen them before and just gaze in wonderment.They could easily be mistaken for a cryptid. Edited November 1, 2020 by openozy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resume Posted November 1, 2020 #67 Share Posted November 1, 2020 10 hours ago, openozy said: Just moved to a fairly tropical area on the coast and have fruit bats that look the size of my Jack Russell with wings,lol, coming in on the fruit trees at night.My hunting dogs have never seen them before and just gaze in wonderment.They could easily be mistaken for a cryptid. Actual creatures are so much more interesting than the made up kind if only because you can observe them with a little effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted November 1, 2020 #68 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Resume said: Actual creatures are so much more interesting than the made up kind if only because you can observe them with a little effort. They are,people want to go into space looking for more when they should look a bit harder at the amazing life forms we have here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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