+susieice Posted November 4, 2020 #326 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Could we be anymore split? No one can claim an overwhelming victory. Whoever wins is going to have a hard time of it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted November 4, 2020 #327 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, susieice said: Could we be anymore split? No one can claim an overwhelming victory. Whoever wins is going to have a hard time of it. Honestly my worse fear was a close race. I was hoping that with whoever won it would atleast be decisive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted November 4, 2020 #328 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Election uncertainty is result of 'war on reality': Dave Rubin Mainstream media, Big Tech to blame for division and uncertainty, Rubin says https://www.foxnews.com/politics/election-result-trump-biden-dave-rubin-media 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted November 4, 2020 Author #329 Share Posted November 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: For those complaint about the wait just remember if was Republicans who decided to block preprocessing of mail in ballots in Michigan and Pennsylvania. So that Trump could cast doubt on a close election. He more than telegraphed his gameplan. He's been outright telling the entire nation what he was going to do for weeks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted November 4, 2020 #330 Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: Honestly my worse fear was a close race. I was hoping that with whoever won it would atleast be decisive. I think that's the case for most of us, all around the world. A very narrow win for Biden (as may end up the case) being probably the worst of all possible scenarios 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAyMO Posted November 4, 2020 #331 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) so trump wants to keep counting in Nevada and Arizona where he is behind - but stop counting in areas where he is ahead? He can't even disguise his intentions. Edited November 4, 2020 by RAyMO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerBright19 Posted November 4, 2020 #332 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Current Betting Odds. Edited November 4, 2020 by TigerBright19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian hacktorp Posted November 4, 2020 #333 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Quote "We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics," Biden said in the video. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-voter-fraud-organization-video-gaffe Trump won the election with a landslide victory. Watching the election fraudsters get picked off one-by-one by the Feds will be fun. Two things to remember: - Amy Coney Barrett - USPS blockchain voting system This is the last rodeo for the Leftist/Globalist corruptocrats. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted November 4, 2020 #334 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 hours ago, quillius said: ah ok thanks. and yes they should be counted early rather than left last. still makes no sense why uncounted numbers are increasing? does anyone know if people can still vote? End of voting is generally at 7 pm on Election Day. If you are still in line AT the time of polls closing you still get to vote. In some years that could have meant physical voting continues up to a couple of hours past the closing time of polls. Many states differ on laws regarding mail in ballots, military ballots and over sea ballots. Some states only count ballots received on Election Day. Some go based on post marks. Some allow a few days AFTER Election Day for military and overseas. When I was doing this the numbers of uncounted changed due to contents of drop of boxes being delivered late or the postal service bringing in last minute deliveries. In my state ballots HAD to be received on Election Day. Each state may create their own process for counting. These processes are generally for organizational processes, never because one ballot is less important. My state allowed us to begin processing mail in ballots ten days prior to Election Day. NOT counting, just processing. This was done by election officials and party reps jointly. I did this for years as an election official, not a poll worker, and am happy to answer any questions. Nibs 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted November 4, 2020 #335 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 hours ago, quillius said: thats changed to circa 18k out....no so small an error now I guess they could possibly not release results of early counts to prevent the issue you highlighted...although not sure how you keep the cat in the bag on this type of thing Cat stays tied up securely in the bag. Bag isn’t opened until the law allows. We would record ballot received, separate ballot from envelope, put ballot through machine. The machine counted the votes but no one would “pull the data” from the machine until Election Day. The machines do not visibly show totals. Nibs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted November 4, 2020 Author #336 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Biden's ahead by 50,000 votes in Michigan with 94% of votes counted. He's basically won Wisconsin. Arizona looks like it's still going to him, despite the problem earlier. Nevada has 84% counted, 8,000 votes ahead but likely a majority of Dem absentee ballots to be counted. Georgia could go either way. Penn will be close but could easily go either way. NC pretty much definitely going to Trump. Edited November 4, 2020 by ExpandMyMind 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted November 4, 2020 #337 Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said: Arizona looks like it's still going to him, despite the problem earlier. There hasen't been an update since the error earlier. So this could still change. Thought it's worth noting that all the Associated Press is still calling it as a Biden win so they must feel comfortable that the error didn't change anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted November 4, 2020 Author #338 Share Posted November 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: There hasen't been an update since the error earlier. So this could still change. Thought it's worth noting that all the Associated Press is still calling it as a Biden win so they must feel comfortable that the error didn't change anything. Moved 2% I think with a slight increase to Biden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted November 4, 2020 #339 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Collins republican senator from Maine just won reelection, pretty much confirming Republicans will maintane senate majority. Thought worth noting Collins will make likely act as a swing voting. She did not endorse Trump and voted against the supreme court nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted November 4, 2020 Author #340 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: Collins republican senator from Maine just won reelection, pretty much confirming Republicans will maintane senate majority. Thought worth noting Collins will make likely act as a swing voting. She did not endorse Trump and voted against the supreme court nomination. I doubt it. McConnell only lets her vote against the party when it's symbolic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted November 4, 2020 #341 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Out of boredom, I did a hand count of state delegations in the house. There are 25 Red and 15 Blue. That leaves 10 that have not been fully determined. That means the the Dems will need to run the table in order to gain a tie which then goes to the Speaker. It looks like at least two of the undetermined will go Red. So the bottom line is that Biden will have to win out because the House and the Courts are not a viable option. And according to the MSM, the trend seems to be in that direction (for now). Looking ahead, the Senate will remain Republican and that alone will thwart the Socialist insurgency. The filibuster will remain. No statehood for DC and Puerto Rico. The Electoral College remains. Senate composition will remain. Any Biden agenda will be dead on arrival (including the Green New Deal). Our future is more important than any one man. So all Biden can do is roll back Trump EOs but that will come with consequences. Q4 is expected to be as good as Q3 and Biden will take full credit of the recovery. The current covid spike is showing a tendency of falling in the next month or so. But Biden will issue a mask mandate and shutdown the country, and when it actually does start to fall will declare that he has crushed covid. What will happen when it spikes again which it most assuredly will? The shutdown will cause another severe contraction and job loses and Biden will not be able to recover. With the roll back of regulation, will slow down our economy back to Obama era stagnation (what ever is left). You can kiss your raises and 401ks good by. People will be leaving the workforce (as before) as our jobs go to china. The list of possible disasters is endless. In order to avoid all of that death and loss, Trump needs to win. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted November 4, 2020 #342 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) There is some dirty crap going on for sure. Trump had Wisconsin in the bag, then suddenly they found 140,000ish votes for Biden with mail in? Not one mail in vote was for Trump? BS This is why Dems wanted mail in. They can muddy the waters and sneak in Biden votes. Crazy story, when I voted yesterday there was two Latino women getting there ballots in front of me. One didn’t even speak English. The other women was translating everything to her. There is no way she is a citizen. The officials didn’t even blink an eye. Just gave her the ballot. Edited November 4, 2020 by preacherman76 3 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted November 4, 2020 #343 Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: There is some dirty crap going on for sure. Trump had Wisconsin in the bag, then suddenly they found 140,000ish votes for Biden with mail in? Not one mail in vote was for Trump? BS This is why Dems wanted mail in. They can muddy the waters and sneak in Biden votes. Crazy story, when I voted yesterday there was two Latino women getting there ballots in front of me. One didn’t even speak English. The other women was translating everything to her. There is no way she is a citizen. The officials didn’t even blink an eye. Just gave her the ballot. Oh good lord! What state do you live in? My best friend from grade school had a grandmother who did not speak English and her ancestors had been in the U.S before it was the U.S. Get over yourself. There is no law in the U.S. that requires a citizen to be able or willing to speak English. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted November 4, 2020 #344 Share Posted November 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: There is some dirty crap going on for sure. Trump had Wisconsin in the bag, then suddenly they found 140,000ish votes for Biden with mail in? Not one mail in vote was for Trump? BS This is why Dems wanted mail in. They can muddy the waters and sneak in Biden votes. Crazy story, when I voted yesterday there was two Latino women getting there ballots in front of me. One didn’t even speak English. The other women was translating everything to her. There is no way she is a citizen. The officials didn’t even blink an eye. Just gave her the ballot. I can’t speak to what you’re saying for Wisconsin. I haven’t seen that happen. I’ve seen some pretty big jumps but nothing that is straight one party. it’s darn near impossible for anyone to mess around with ballots once they have been surrendered to an election office or drop box. Reps from both parties are at every step together once the ballot has been voted. Regarding the woman, yes, she could have been a citizen and just finds speaking another language easier. If she was just handed a ballot she must have been registered otherwise she would have been given a provisional and her citizenship would have been vetted prior to counting the provisional ballot. Many states print ballots in different languages due to some citizens being more comfortable with a different language. Nibs 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted November 4, 2020 #345 Share Posted November 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: Crazy story, when I voted yesterday there was two Latino women getting there ballots in front of me. One didn’t even speak English. The other women was translating everything to her. There is no way she is a citizen. The officials didn’t even blink an eye. Just gave her the ballot. same thing i saw when i voted, old russian guy with a walker, they had to ask a russian lady in line to help him out, but he was a citizen, otherwise, he would not be on the list, until recently seniors got their citizenship with no tests, doctors note was enough. they did not even have to speak english. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted November 4, 2020 #346 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, HerNibs said: I can’t speak to what you’re saying for Wisconsin. I haven’t seen that happen. I’ve seen some pretty big jumps but nothing that is straight one party. it’s darn near impossible for anyone to mess around with ballots once they have been surrendered to an election office or drop box. Reps from both parties are at every step together once the ballot has been voted. Regarding the woman, yes, she could have been a citizen and just finds speaking another language easier. If she was just handed a ballot she must have been registered otherwise she would have been given a provisional and her citizenship would have been vetted prior to counting the provisional ballot. Many states print ballots in different languages due to some citizens being more comfortable with a different language. Nibs In NY when you are registering they just ask if you are a citizen. If you say yes, then you just are. Anyhow we are seeing several irregularities in Wisconsin in many counties. Trumps campaign is rightfully demanding a recount. In all honesty, I just want a fair election. The dems in many ways over the last 4 years have more than proven they will fight dirty. I have little doubt they will do all they can legal or otherwise to win this election 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted November 4, 2020 #347 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, aztek said: same thing i saw when i voted, old russian guy with a walker, they had to ask a russian lady in line to help him out, but he was a citizen, otherwise, he would not be on the list, until recently seniors got their citizenship with no tests, doctors note was enough. they did not even have to speak english. Not likely the same here. We are flooded with illegals. Who are encouraged to vote. Heck Obama straight told them voting makes them citizens 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted November 4, 2020 #348 Share Posted November 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: There is some dirty crap going on for sure. Trump had Wisconsin in the bag, then suddenly they found 140,000ish votes for Biden with mail in? Not one mail in vote was for Trump? BS This is why Dems wanted mail in. They can muddy the waters and sneak in Biden votes. I heard that is what happened in Michigan. And that propelled Gary Peters over John James. I also heard that in Wisconsin, there are more votes cast than there are registered voters. That is enough to send it to the courts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted November 4, 2020 #349 Share Posted November 4, 2020 If non citizens are voting in your country, they may be voting for your favorite candidate but is it really in the interest of your nation that an outsider is influencing the future? One should think of the country and not get hung up on a political party or candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted November 4, 2020 #350 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Silly question, but from the comments above, in the US can just anyone vote? In the UK you need a polling card and to be on the electoral register. But there is no requirement to speak or read English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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