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That's what keeps jobs safe right? 

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Arizona Republican Party Files Lawsuit to Enforce Hand Count By Precinct

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/11/12/arizona-republican-party-files-suit-to-enforce-hand-count-by-precinct-n2580022

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The Republican Party of Arizona has filed a lawsuit to enforce a state law requiring a hand count of votes by precinct. For the 2020 general election, additional polling places or "voting centers" were set up throughout Maricopa County allowing voters from different precincts to cast a ballot. The Republican Party of Arizona is asking for a court order to direct Maricopa County to follow the state statute.

 

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Project Veritas has ANOTHER whistleblower, exposing Pennsylvania USPS

https://therightscoop.com/breaking-project-veritas-has-another-whistleblower-exposing-pennsylvania-usps/

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James O’Keefe and Project Veritas have just released video of a new United States Postal Service whisteblower out of Pennsylvania, who says that they were ordered to “discard pro-Trump and pro-Republican mail, and only deliver pro-Biden mail” as the election got closer.

“This is the third Pennsylvania USPS Insider to blow the whistle on election malfeasance in the last week. There is something going on with USPS and we must get to the bottom of it immediately,” says O’Keefe

 

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-new-pennsylvania-usps-whistleblower-supervisor-told-us-the-only/

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    • Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “The only political mail that will be delivered from now on will be that of the ‘winner,’ in this case, Joe Biden. Other political mail from other sources and senders would be put into the undeliverable bulk business mail bin.”
    • Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “All political mail for Biden was to be continued to be treated as first-class and delivered the day it was received.”
    • Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “I think that we're a delivery service and that [playing politics] is not really our place.”
    • Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “The only thing that's going to prevent a fraudulent election is people having the courage to come forward. I wouldn't want to say that I had the opportunity to do that and didn't do it.”
    • Whistleblower says Elkins Park, Pa., USPS Supervisor of Customer Services Walter Lee gave the order to 30 postal workers
    • James O’Keefe: “This is the third Pennsylvania USPS Insider to blow the whistle on election malfeasance in the last week. There is something going on with USPS and we must get to the bottom of it immediately.”

     

     

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2 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Does America have unions?

You wouldn't think so, would you. - when you look at the millions of Jobs which have been lost to China. nearly 4 million, Donald J Trump the orange man everyone hates came to office and tried to arrest the situation. okay jobs where still lost to China under Trump but at least he's tried to reduced the numbers going, His job is like the Captain of an oil tanker these things take a while to turn around, but made even harder when the previous captains where going full steam in the wrong direction.

Trump his greatest crime he wasnt a politician. he didn't conform. after years and years of people being fed up with politicians in power it now seems they did want politicians after all.

From the turn of the new century there as been a decline in the US, thanks to poor leadership, 9/11 simply doesn't happen in 1980's America. then two long drawn out wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. America lashing out, in a whac'a mole style. domestic policy in tatters, BAME, WOKE, political correctness rubbish which as been allowed to flourish,  Obama the great white hope, who failed to live up to his billing. committing US forces over seas, signing all sorts of BAD deals for the US. the world taking the p*** out of America, Iran, bad nuclear deal, then we have the challengers to the US, China and the EU, Bad trade deals leaving the US with massive trade deficits, the US left holding the baby in NATO, paying 4% to 6% of GDP while everyone else pays 1% or less.

No wonder they didn't like Trump, they liked the soft-touch USA which can be pushed and kicked around.

There is not one American on here who didn't, if not feel, then sense the unhealthy situation of a decline. If Biden ends up President the American people will be ready for change in 4 years time.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, ChrLzs said:

Yes, several... :D   However, if I start citing them, there will be the inevitable accusations about biased sources....  So may I just teach you to fish?

Just Google "a nonzero number of people in the room" (include the quotes) and you'll get a pile of results - just pick the source you prefer.  At the time I quoted them, the transcripts were not yet officially up on the courts websites, but that should happen quite quickly, and there does not seem to be anyone doubting their validity - I would suggest there were a lot of reporters either in the room or listening, and it's being widely reported by both sides of the media - there would be no point faking them.

 

ok thanks, I was hoping they were all in one place.......anyhow will try the fishing and see what I find.

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2 hours ago, bee said:

 

Not sure if we've had this info on the thread yet.....

 

 

TRUMP TEAM WIN: MAJOR Legal Win For President Trump IN PENNSYLVANIA

If that's his idea of a 'major win', Trump really is ****ed.

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On 11/12/2020 at 10:22 AM, the13bats said:

Dont you recall all the $$$ it cost tax payers before mel would move into WH 

Rrright... Big orange meanie throughout decades paid $ millions in taxes and employed thousands, while good ol' Joe 'truaninonashufodopressure' was riding on the backs of taxpayers his whole life...

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Why is everyone in such a big hurry to stop processing ballots, when there are legitimate concerns.  I seem to remember a somewhat recent election, the results of which were highly scrutinized by the very same party that now wants half of the voting public to simply shut up and get over it.  Um, weren't there some accusations of nefarious activity, specifically involving Russia, which subsequently led to lengthy investigations, legal action, and basically just an ongoing theme of Trump hunting, open season, for almost four years?  Even if you strongly believe there is no basis for claims of fraud and/or other anomalies, where's the harm in shining light on the process, just to ensure these claims really are baseless?  It's interesting that when someone of one particular political persuasion makes an assertion, it's taken as gospel.  Yet, when similar claims, or indeed, any claims of wrongdoing are made by someone of another political persuasion, that person is regarded as a despicable liar, grasping at straws.  Just to point out the obvious, almost none of us actually know any of these politicians and public figures, so it seems strange that there is an unapologetic bias for one side or the other, when they could both very well be engaged in deceit and manipulation of the public in an effort to serve their own needs and agendas.  And let's be honest, historically, that's far more often true than not.  Politicians, in general, are regarded as serpentine and almost completely dishonest, even pathological by the vast majority of the citizenry, regardless of party.  I don't think I have ever met a single person who had a great deal of faith or trust in our government or politicians.  Yet, when we think it serves our purposes, we eagerly turn a blind eye to any perceived questionable behavior.  How about we make a habit of holding their feet to the fire and demanding, not only transparency, but honesty and excellence?  Or do we deserve it?  After all, a corrupt populace will always elect corrupt politicians...

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1 hour ago, bmk1245 said:

Rrright... Big orange meanie throughout decades paid $ millions in taxes and employed thousands, while good ol' Joe 'truaninonashufodopressure' was riding on the backs of taxpayers his whole life...

The reality is exactly the opposite of the lies you just posted. As you certainly know. 

Trump is in debt, yuuuge debt (400 million at least), all his businesses ended up in bankruptcies, which is how he paid no taxes in years. Or, if his financial situation is not such a complete disaster, then he has some unexplainable things to explain to the IRS. 

He's notorious for not paying his contractors, while we can only guess if he was paying illegals fairly. (Not in the mood to search for links, but it was made public that some of Trump's businesses were caught employing illegals.)

 

While Joe made his financial records public. Nothing special there. Probably because that man is not stupid so he's not involved in shady schemes. (Giuliani's slapstick comedy in Ukraine is seen as such, it's only trumpers that swallow such retarded fairytales.)

What you call "riding on taxpayers' back" is being a professional politician with impeccable career.

 

(I admit I'm especially fond of Biden, since he helped my country back then when majority of western politicians were ready to sacrifice us to appease Russia and their ass puppet Milošević.) 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

The reality is exactly the opposite of the lies you just posted. As you certainly know. 

Trump is in debt, yuuuge debt (400 million at least), all his businesses ended up in bankruptcies, which is how he paid no taxes in years. Or, if his financial situation is not such a complete disaster, then he has some unexplainable things to explain to the IRS. 

He's notorious for not paying his contractors, while we can only guess if he was paying illegals fairly. (Not in the mood to search for links, but it was made public that some of Trump's businesses were caught employing illegals.)

 

While Joe made his financial records public. Nothing special there. Probably because that man is not stupid so he's not involved in shady schemes. (Giuliani's slapstick comedy in Ukraine is seen as such, it's only trumpers that swallow such retarded fairytales.)

What you call "riding on taxpayers' back" is being a professional politician with impeccable career.

 

(I admit I'm especially fond of Biden, since he helped my country back then when majority of western politicians were ready to sacrifice us to appease Russia and their ass puppet Milošević.) 

 

 

 

Oh, boy, where do I have to start with... Seriously?

Lets put on the table $ Trump paid in taxes, and lets put on the table what $ Biden paid in taxes (while sucking taxpayers for his salary)

Seriosly, Helen, turn your thinking cap on.

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I find it disappointing that civil debate, while maintaining mutual respect for those with whom we disagree is so cavalierly abandoned, in favor of venomous abasement.  I assume we're all adults, here.  And I equally assume that each of us is reasonably intelligent and rational.  Just because someone has a different perspective, it doesn't make them stupid, crazy, or evil.  It simply means that the information to which they have been exposed, in conjunction with individual perspective and life experience has led them to a different conclusion than the one you have reached.  I think a little effort to understand opposing perspectives could go a long way toward fostering deeper understanding and therefore a gravitating toward healing the the increasingly hostile division, in this country.  Just food for thought.

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7 minutes ago, bmk1245 said:

Lets put on the table $ Trump paid in taxes

so how much is that then?

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Just now, bmk1245 said:

In range of $ millions.

hmm you you don't know - neither do I nor anyone else - it is arguable that he has paid more in tax to China than the USA for the last x years - but the reality is we don't know. 

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3 minutes ago, RAyMO said:

hmm you you don't know - neither do I nor anyone else - it is arguable that he has paid more in tax to China than the USA for the last x years - but the reality is we don't know. 

Well, where do you put Biden in that picture? What do you expect from him? Take a deep breath... And you will find yourself right away in Obama/Biden slide. Main question is - do you support this?

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1 minute ago, bmk1245 said:

Main question is - do you support this?

support what?

 

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Just now, bmk1245 said:

Playing anti Trump

No playing about it.

Imo Trump is:

  1. not smart
  2. not honest
  3. not rich
  4. not paying his fair dues
  5. not interested in anybody other than himself; and
  6. not getting a second term .
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An entire county in Texas allowed for ONE ,hard to get to, ballot box....located in the center of downtown Houston.!  Think about why that happened.  

  One thing that has puzzled me for several elections...is, how the vote can be so,apparently, Equally divided.  It seems an unatural/contrived  'balance'.

Anyway, most of the rational world is hopeful that the end of the trump chaos is over.   

 

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42 minutes ago, bmk1245 said:

Oh, boy, where do I have to start with... Seriously?

Lets put on the table $ Trump paid in taxes, and lets put on the table what $ Biden paid in taxes (while sucking taxpayers for his salary)

Seriosly, Helen, turn your thinking cap on.

Ruski, your Trump paid no taxes in the US because he kept bankrupting his businesses.

He never produced anything that would show these news are false. He still hides his tax returns. Why? 

Biden made his financial records public.

 

Can you ****ing notice the difference or someone took a dump in your thinking cap again?  

 

By the way, go away. 

I just wanted to make clear Biden is very much a proven American politician with superb reputation. I'd trust his dog to make better decisions than Trump.   

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1 hour ago, Helen of Annoy said:

The reality is exactly the opposite of the lies you just posted. As you certainly know. 

Trump is in debt, yuuuge debt (400 million at least), all his businesses ended up in bankruptcies, which is how he paid no taxes in years. Or, if his financial situation is not such a complete disaster, then he has some unexplainable things to explain to the IRS. 

He's notorious for not paying his contractors, while we can only guess if he was paying illegals fairly. (Not in the mood to search for links, but it was made public that some of Trump's businesses were caught employing illegals.)

 

While Joe made his financial records public. Nothing special there. Probably because that man is not stupid so he's not involved in shady schemes. (Giuliani's slapstick comedy in Ukraine is seen as such, it's only trumpers that swallow such retarded fairytales.)

What you call "riding on taxpayers' back" is being a professional politician with impeccable career.

 

(I admit I'm especially fond of Biden, since he helped my country back then when majority of western politicians were ready to sacrifice us to appease Russia and their ass puppet Milošević.) 

 

 

 

The Trump Organization is a group of about 500 businesses of which Trump was the sole or principal owner until he handed the reigns to his children in 2017. He has filed 6 bankruptcies and most of them casinos.

As far as taxes:

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/09/29/fact-check-trump-paid-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-in-taxes/

All tax information listed on breitbart is linked to the NY Times.

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13 minutes ago, RAyMO said:

No playing about it.

Imo Trump is:

  1. not smart
  2. not honest
  3. not rich
  4. not paying his fair dues
  5. not interested in anybody other than himself; and
  6. not getting a second term .

Just look over every... Oh boy, thats what lefties come up with???!!! Are you kidding me???!!!

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11 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Ruski, your Trump paid no taxes in the US because he kept bankrupting his businesses.

He never produced anything that would show these news are false. He still hides his tax returns. Why? 

Biden made his financial records public.

 

Can you ****ing notice the difference or someone took a dump in your thinking cap again?  

 

By the way, go away. 

I just wanted to make clear Biden is very much a proven American politician with superb reputation. I'd trust his dog to make better decisions than Trump.   

Trump's taxes have been under audit for the last 10 years by the IRS. To release his tax returns while under audit wouldn't be a sound business decision as the returns would not reflect the true nature of his returns because the audit is not final and furthermore a president or presidential candidate is under no obligation under the law to make their tax records public.

Now to claim Biden is a proven American politician you are most welcome to list his accomplishments for the last 47 years.

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