Golden Duck Posted November 25, 2020 #26 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 1:20 PM, Aroundthecorner said: Thoughts... Y 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted November 25, 2020 #27 Share Posted November 25, 2020 13 hours ago, Nnicolette said: Well this is the only way the whole virgin birth scenario could fit... I haven't heard of any female demigod that was released into the world with a virgin birth. They have always been men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted November 25, 2020 #28 Share Posted November 25, 2020 17 hours ago, Nnicolette said: Well this is the only way the whole virgin birth scenario could fit... What... Mary performed Cryptobiosis and spawned a clone of herself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted November 25, 2020 #29 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 3:20 AM, Aroundthecorner said: Thoughts... Too many sometimes. But perhaps, one of the many individuals used to make up the character we read in the Bible was a woman? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 25, 2020 #30 Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted November 26, 2020 #31 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Jesus was a man that supported women:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnicolette Posted November 26, 2020 #32 Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: What... Mary performed Cryptobiosis and spawned a clone of herself? No... Well yeah... Jesus is claimed to be a parthenogenesis birth, but only females are produced in this manner. Edited November 26, 2020 by Nnicolette 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TashaMarie Posted November 26, 2020 #33 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 4:28 PM, papageorge1 said: Papameter's reading near perfect zero on this one. This was well before women's liberation. This would only be valid if you're saying a man determined what sex Gods child would be. Surely God sees that women are equal to men, so could have easily have sent a daughter rather than a son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 26, 2020 #34 Share Posted November 26, 2020 6 hours ago, TashaMarie said: This would only be valid if you're saying a man determined what sex Gods child would be. Surely God sees that women are equal to men, so could have easily have sent a daughter rather than a son? It's curious, but the new theology Christians were spreading throughout the polytheistic Roman Empire was, indeed, sort of leaving women lacking a female motif of worship, such as Isis and child. Thus, the early artistic representations of the Christ were androgynous--almost hemanphroditic. It was only after the rise of Mary worship, represented in art with child, like Isis, that the artistic version of Christ became more manly and bearded and almost Zeus-like in Greek representations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 27, 2020 #35 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Guess it's Jessica Christ now... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted November 27, 2020 #36 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Luke 2:21 - Jesus was circumcised according to the laws of Moses. Worst thread ever? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlookerofmayhem Posted November 27, 2020 #37 Share Posted November 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, Guyver said: Luke 2:21 - Jesus was circumcised according to the laws of Moses. Worst thread ever? Well, not that I even entertain the OP, female circumcision is definitely a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quillius Posted November 27, 2020 #38 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 4:28 PM, papageorge1 said: Papameter's reading near perfect zero on this one. This was well before women's liberation. wow, lets fix this, let me re phrase the question in the OP: could Jesus have been a 'ghost'! hopefully that gets you off zero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted November 27, 2020 #39 Share Posted November 27, 2020 42 minutes ago, onlookerofmayhem said: Well, not that I even entertain the OP, female circumcision is definitely a thing. True.....but not for the Jewish. The laws of Moses only called for circumcision of males, not females. See Genesis chapter 17. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted November 27, 2020 #40 Share Posted November 27, 2020 47 minutes ago, quillius said: wow, lets fix this, let me re phrase the question in the OP: could Jesus have been a 'ghost'! hopefully that gets you off zero If the question is 'ghost after his death' the meter does get a little happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quillius Posted November 27, 2020 #41 Share Posted November 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: If the question is 'ghost after his death' the meter does get a little happy. Touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted November 28, 2020 #42 Share Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 7:20 PM, Aroundthecorner said: Thoughts... Nope. I dont think anyone in that time and place would have been fooled. "Gay"? Far outside possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted November 28, 2020 #43 Share Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 8:51 AM, TashaMarie said: This would only be valid if you're saying a man determined what sex Gods child would be. Surely God sees that women are equal to men, so could have easily have sent a daughter rather than a son? If God is "male", it's very easy to assume that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all "male" also. You're putting 21st century thinking onto a 1st century religion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted November 28, 2020 #44 Share Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 7:14 AM, Nnicolette said: No... Well yeah... Jesus is claimed to be a parthenogenesis birth, but only females are produced in this manner. Good point. Except it wasnt a parthenogenetic pregnancy. She was impregnated by God, like Zeus, or Poseidon, were supposed to have done. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiXilver Posted November 28, 2020 #45 Share Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 11:10 PM, and then said: Assuming you begin with the belief that He existed at all, the writings that describe his life and place in the culture of the time refer to His followers calling Him "Rabbi". He also was known as the "Son" of God. No record at all of women Rabbis at that time. Just curious, have you found some source that makes that claim or is this just curiosity? No record of an unmarried Rabbi either... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted November 28, 2020 #46 Share Posted November 28, 2020 14 hours ago, DieChecker said: Good point. Except it wasnt a parthenogenetic pregnancy. She was impregnated by God, like Zeus, or Poseidon, were supposed to have done. I find it ironic that "God" could impregnate a human woman is stated as a "fact", while the same act, attributed to Zeus, Poseidon and other gods is "alleged".. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted November 28, 2020 #47 Share Posted November 28, 2020 14 hours ago, DieChecker said: You're putting a 1st century religion onto 21st century thinking. Fixed that for you. You're welcome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted November 28, 2020 #48 Share Posted November 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jodie.Lynne said: 15 hours ago, DieChecker said: You're putting a 1st century religion onto 21st century thinking. Fixed that for you. You're welcome Come now, don't change peoples words like that in direct quoting please. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted November 28, 2020 #49 Share Posted November 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, rashore said: Come now, don't change peoples words like that in direct quoting please. Apologies, but they are the same words. The poster just put the cart before the horse, methinks. But I will refrain in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted November 28, 2020 #50 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, Jodie.Lynne said: Apologies, but they are the same words. The poster just put the cart before the horse, methinks. But I will refrain in the future. Same words.. and if you had done the direct quote straight and then changed it in your words that would have worked. But direct misquoting is bad form. Glad you will refrain in the future 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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