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Tatetopa
1 hour ago, President-Elect Acidhead said:

This election will be over and declared official when I'm sworn into office.

:D

 

More than likely, you will be sworn at.

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Will Do
5 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

I've never encountered one; but I think I see your problem. 

You trying to preach fire and brimstone, but only burnt your sausage. 

 

You shall not bear false witness.

 

 

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Agent0range
11 hours ago, bee said:

 

Just going on circumstantial evidence alone... after what's happened over the last 4 years...

Those who want Trump out... REALLY want him out .... are going to do anything to achieve that end...

And Trump REALLY wants in.  So, by your logic...he cheated.  That doesn't even make any sense!

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Agent0range
11 hours ago, Will Do said:

 

You mean like with Russian interference in the 2016 election?

You mean like with Bernie beating Hillary in the 2016 Democratic primaries?

I mean...meeting with a lawyer with ties to the Kremlin in Trump tower and then lying about it multiple times before admitting it was an attempt to get dirt on a political opponent is WAAAAAAYYYY more evidence of any type of election fraud.  So, no, I don't mean like that..k, thanks.

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Will Do
55 minutes ago, Agent0range said:

I mean...meeting with a lawyer with ties to the Kremlin in Trump tower and then lying about it multiple times before admitting it was an attempt to get dirt on a political opponent is WAAAAAAYYYY more evidence of any type of election fraud.  So, no, I don't mean like that..k, thanks.

 

During this period of transition, do you think any of Biden's people are meeting with or having phone conversations with people tied to the Kremlin, tied to China, tied to any host of other countries considered our enemies right now?

If so, will you support initiating an investigation into the facts of these contacts for the purpose of removing Biden from office if he wins?

 

 

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stevewinn
29 minutes ago, Will Do said:

 

During this period of transition, do you think any of Biden's people are meeting with or having phone conversations with people tied to the Kremlin, tied to China, tied to any host of other countries considered our enemies right now?

If so, will you support initiating an investigation into the facts of these contacts for the purpose of removing Biden from office if he wins?

 

 

poor Beijing Joe doesn't even know what day it is.

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Hammerclaw
10 hours ago, the13bats said:

Yeah, many cartoonist are like that.

(Pssst) Could be you, Doc.:w00t:

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RavenHawk
19 hours ago, Gromdor said:

Well heck, if millions of dead people voted, it should be easy for Trump to prove fraud!

It should once they get past the different layers of those covering.

 

The hand recount in Georgia kinda shoots down the whole computer changing votes argument, though.  

A hand recount won’t reveal that votes had been changed by the computer.  County clerks just need to swap out the real ballots with the fake ones for the recount.  Since the computer changed the votes, they need to now cover their tracks with paper ballots.

 

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Desertrat56
41 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

It should once they get past the different layers of those covering.

 

 

 

 

 

A hand recount won’t reveal that votes had been changed by the computer.  County clerks just need to swap out the real ballots with the fake ones for the recount.  Since the computer changed the votes, they need to now cover their tracks with paper ballots.

 

 

 

Oh Good Lord!  I am putting you back on ignore.

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moonman
47 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

A hand recount won’t reveal that votes had been changed by the computer.  County clerks just need to swap out the real ballots with the fake ones for the recount.  Since the computer changed the votes, they need to now cover their tracks with paper ballots.

LOL- you don't have a clue how ballots work.

No wonder trumpers believe any nonsense they are told, they don't understand how the systems work in the first place.

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RavenHawk
20 hours ago, bee said:

This whole Election Fraud exposé is huge.... just staggering in it's scope and implications...

The implications are indeed Orwellian.  If this is allowed to stand, “We, The People” will have become enslaved for a very long time to come.  The list of those that are complicit runs deep.  The Deep State which is infected with TDS will have pulled off the most devastating coup in all of history. 

 

The spark of freedom will leave this world.  There won’t be another entity that will stand up to China.  China could start their own Lebensraum movement all across the globe.  If you have a nation of 10 million, China will send 15 million to settle and colonize that nation.  In time, rich Western Culture will disappear as it will be viewed as the Four Olds of Mao.  We’ve already got a taste of that.

 

The bureaucracy will think that now that they have gotten rid of the bad orange man, that the 72 million plus that voted for him will fall in line.  That just shows that in their TDS, they know nothing of the original intent of the Founding Fathers, the real meaning of the Constitution, or the mind of a free people.  If the Left win the Senate, we will be in economic downfall, but that is what the Left wants so that they can remake this country into a Socialist Utopia.  Ignore the warnings from ex-Cubans, ex-Venezuelans, ex-Soviet Bloc populations that escaped their predicament because there was no other place to go (now where will they go?). 

 

The Left doesn’t understand that this is not about Trump.  Trump was just an answer (that the people elected) to fight the corruption of the Left (Deep State, bureaucracy, MSM, etc.).  The Left could go after Trump after he leaves office and throw him into jail, thinking that the people will then come to them.  But the aversion to the Left’s corruption will still be there.  It is a grassroots movement that is constantly growing.  Trump revealed the corruption and it is fresh in the minds of many generations to come. 

 

Harris will need to unleash a cultural revolution here to purge the populace of such undesirable thoughts.  When our freedoms are challenged, patriots will step up and the Left has miscalculated, as they always do.  So what do they do?  They double down.  If Conservatives can hold on to the Senate, will give this grassroots movement the time to marshal a takeover of the House come mid-terms.  Establishment never-Trumpers need not apply. 

 

The Policies that the Left will push will fall on deaf ears.  If the Senate holds, Harris will be a lame duck from day one.  And if it isn’t Trump that returns in 2024, it’ll need to be someone very much like him.  Conservative media is going to greatly expand through Parler, Wimkin, and many others. The only way that the Left will be able to shut that down is through violence. 

 

And when that happens, all bets are off.  The Right will no longer try to be tolerant.  The Right is very long-suffering but as Jefferson stated, when the train of abuses become intolerable, it is the right and the Duty of the people to do away with such government and replace it with government dedicated to the protections of individual rights.  That will happen.  How it comes about is up to us.  It can be as peaceful as a President draining the swamp or it could be all out revolution.  I’m betting on “We, The People”!

 

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RavenHawk
54 minutes ago, moonman said:

LOL- you don't have a clue how ballots work.

No wonder trumpers believe any nonsense they are told, they don't understand how the systems work in the first place.

By all means then, enlighten us to how you think ballots work?  Please, no links!  Just a few sentences in your own words will suffice.

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bee
1 hour ago, RavenHawk said:

It should once they get past the different layers of those covering.

 

A hand recount won’t reveal that votes had been changed by the computer.  County clerks just need to swap out the real ballots with the fake ones for the recount.  Since the computer changed the votes, they need to now cover their tracks with paper ballots.

 

 

Even in their training Manual (Dominion).... they say that the software allows staff to adjust the tally ... this is shown in the section beginning at 3.55 on the video below.. also in that section they talk about how there is (allegedly) evidence of a vote counting software programmer in a zoom meeting telling Antifa groups that... "Trump won't win - I made ******* sure of that.."

I have heard Sidney Powell mention this somewhere... and I think she said they have a recording of that zoom meeting..

 

 

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moonman
25 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

By all means then, enlighten us to how you think ballots work?  Please, no links!  Just a few sentences in your own words will suffice.

 

I don't know every specific process involved but I do know they have checks and balances and they can't just swap a truckload of fake ballots like you say. It isn't a election for school council president, there are multiple people watching all aspects of the count and meticulous record taking before, during, and after the count. Something so obvious as a huge dump of new votes at the end would be instantly flagged.

If it were as easy to cheat like you say, the whole process would have been abandoned decades ago. Of course, if you believe in giant conspiracies that span hundreds of people and voting sites, you can just discount all that. I don't, because common sense.

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Gromdor
1 hour ago, RavenHawk said:

It should once they get past the different layers of those covering.

 

  You know, here in America when people die their deaths are recorded as well as their birthdates and social security numbers into a data base.

  Also here in America voters are recorded with their birthdates and social security numbers into a data base.

  A simple comparison of the two would reveal dead voters.

  

 

 

 

A hand recount won’t reveal that votes had been changed by the computer.  County clerks just need to swap out the real ballots with the fake ones for the recount.  Since the computer changed the votes, they need to now cover their tracks with paper ballots.

With that many coconspirators it would be far more simple to vote Trump out.  

 

 

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Gromdor
3 minutes ago, moonman said:

I don't know every specific process involved but I do know they have checks and balances and they can't just dump a truckload of fake ballots in at the end like you say. It isn't a election for school council president, there are multiple people watching all aspects of the count and meticulous record taking before, during, and after the count.

If it were as easy to cheat like you say, the whole process would have been abandoned decades ago.

My ballot had a barcode linked to my name.  But hey, each state is different.

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28 minutes ago, bee said:

Even in their training Manual (Dominion).... they say that the software allows staff to adjust the tally ... this is shown in the section beginning at 3.55 on the video below.. also in that section they talk about how there is (allegedly) evidence of a vote counting software programmer in a zoom meeting telling Antifa groups that... "Trump won't win - I made ******* sure of that.."

to add to the above.......

and that reminds me of the text exchange between Strzok and Page.... (FBI)....in the lead up to the 2016 election that went...

In early August 2016, after Page asked Strzok, "[Trump's] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!", Strzok responded: "No. No he won't. We'll stop it.

random link about it - wiki

I'm now thinking Strzok was probably talking about stopping it with Voting Machine Fraud.... Election Fraud - but the algorithms that were put in place to adjust the vote surreptitiously didn't achieve what they were supposed to because of the unexpectedly high number of votes for Trump..... (but they had a plan B in place this time and stopped the vote count to make the numbers up... ? ) 

 

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cerberusxp
On 11/18/2020 at 7:30 AM, WVK said:

In building its case for multi-state audits of those relying on Dominion Voting Systems, the Trump legal team has a former Venezuelan official saying it was designed to rig elections, according to former federal prosecutor Sidney Powel:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/sidney-powell-dominion-voting-systems/2020/11/17/id/997526/

In a signal where President Donald Trump's legal focus is right now, presidential political strategist Dick Morris on Newsmax TV wagged a skeptical finger at Dominion Voting Systems.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/dick-morris-voter-fraud-legal-challenges-dominion/2020/11/17/id/997531/

 This depicts in part how the algorithm does it! https://ibb.co/h1x3Xds Here is an in depth analysis warning lengthy video mathematically impossible.

https://worldnewes.com/genius-patriot-edward-solomon-discovered-the-exact-dominion-algorithm-that-transferred-millions-of-votes-video/

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spartan max2
10 minutes ago, bee said:

to add to the above.......

and that reminds me of the text exchange between Strzok and Page.... (FBI)....in the lead up to the 2016 election that went...

In early August 2016, after Page asked Strzok, "[Trump's] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!", Strzok responded: "No. No he won't. We'll stop it.

random link about it - wiki

I'm now thinking Strzok was probably talking about stopping it with Voting Machine Fraud.... Election Fraud - but the algorithms that were put in place to adjust the vote surreptitiously didn't achieve what they were supposed to because of the unexpectedly high number of votes for Trump..... (but they had a plan B in place this time and stopped the vote count to make the numbers up... ? ) 

 

Trump won in 2016. And since then he has appointed the heads of the FBI and CIA. 

So the idea that the FBI rigged the election against Trump seems pretty unlikely since it's his appointee.

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bee
1 minute ago, spartan max2 said:

Trump won in 2016. And since then he has appointed the heads of the FBI and CIA. 

So the idea that the FBI rigged the election against Trump seems pretty unlikely since it's his appointee.


I expect there are enough rogue FBI and CIA agents to keep the sedition / treason going.... and ex CIA chief John Brennan is Trump's arch enemy.. he has been very active for the last 4 years... working against Trump... 

This whole Election Fraud and the determination to get rid of Trump in any way possible isn't happening as an isolated occurrence separate from other things going on in the world... it's an integral part of it... 

for example...

https://www.climatedepot.com/2020/11/19/john-kerry-talks-great-reset-were-at-the-dawn-of-extremely-exciting-time-at-world-economic-forum/


of course it's a complete joke that Biden would actually be a driver of the Great Reset... but the people handling him and controlling him will..  (see quote below)

don't want to get too far away from the point you raised - but I think that the FBI and CIA are probably infiltrated at all levels and although Trump can try to turn it around with some appointments... it's a huge task to counter act a process that has been in motion for decades...

Global political elites like European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and former Secretary of State John Kerry view Democrat Joe Biden as a driver of World Economic Forum’s “The Great Reset” mission that seeks major transformation of the world’s economy.

 

 

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moonman
22 minutes ago, cerberusxp said:

Until that gets peer reviewed and thoroughly investigated I'm not buying one guy's interpretation of a bunch of numbers as any kind of fraud. Numbers and math can be twisted all sorts of ways.

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RavenHawk
5 minutes ago, moonman said:

I don't know every specific process involved

Oh?

 

but I do know they have checks and balances

Correct, they do.  And how hard would it be to subvert such rules?  What would it take?  Rules are made by Man.  Anything made by Man can be overcome.  There is an old slogan from warfare, “follow the sapper!”  Anytime a fortress or wall needed to be defeated, the sieging army would send in the sappers.  The sapper would “sap” the strength of the defenses.  They would find a way over, around, under, or through any wall.  This concept remains today, just applied to other things, like getting around rules.  Rules are only for the law abiding.

 

and they can't just swap a truckload of fake ballots like you say.

It’s a bit more involved but that is exactly what they do.  That is what went on in the early hours of the morning after election night.  And this isn’t the first election they’ve done this in.  Everything up to now has been a dress rehearsal for the big show. 

 

It isn't a election for school council president,

It’s nice to know somebody noticed.

 

there are multiple people watching all aspects of the count and meticulous record taking before, during, and after the count.

Really?  Every aspect?  There are hundreds of affidavits attesting to the fact that certain poll watchers were prevented from doing their duty.  We even had images on the news of this.  Those who control the ballots control the counting.  Rules do not apply to them.

 

Something so obvious as a huge dump of new votes at the end would be instantly flagged.

They were, the statistics show it.  Counting halted in at least 6 blue states late at night where Trump had sizable leads.  And then in the wee hours of the morning, large numbers of ballots were coming in.  This is what the Left always do, they always fine more ballots.  You stop counting so that you can have more time to create more ballots (however many are needed).  And when you only have a 66% voter turnout, new votes always abound.  If there were better accountability of ballots and assuring that all are located in the warehouse that the voting takes place before election night, would cut cheating down.  It wouldn’t eliminate it but it would prevent the last-minute appearance of more ballots.

 

If it were as easy to cheat like you say, the whole process would have been abandoned decades ago.

Not necessarily because both side cheat.  But it had always been small scale compared to now.  Those with TDS went to every length possible to cheat.  And that was their mistake.  But because of the scope of this fraud, how many will not believe it?  If people don’t believe it, does that mean it never happened?  I guess people couldn’t believe it from decades ago.  What we have here is a coup.  If it is allowed to stand, our integrity will take a hit.  Global ramifications are just horrendous.  But that means nothing when petty jealousies are involved.  When are the people going to get fed up with it?  Well, they were, that's why Trump was elected in the first place.  Now what?

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moonman
4 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

a bunch of stuff

I don't even care anymore. Trump lost, all is well, if proof of widespread cheating is found I will take interest again.

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