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the13bats

Now powell is dumped from team trump for being "too outlandish"  weeks gone by no proof of claims of fraud or vote machine issues, judges laughing trumps claims and Mr Brownsweat right out of countless courts this thread will be

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Very soon.

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Agent0range
7 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

And?  That doesn’t mean a thing.  How can Trump determine a swampy?  By observing the leaks.  Why do you think Trump was more willing to accept Putin’s words over his own intel?  Because the Deep State was applying that insurance policy.

 

Oh my.  Seeing a post like this, and your posts in the past..I truly hope that you are not in the military, as you say you are.  This is some next level crazy stuff.  I truly hope if you are in the military, that they are watching forums like this to find service members who think Putin is a better source of intel than hard working Americans.  I mostly shrug most of your posts off as mindless drivel, but this one really struck a nerve.  You should not, in any capacity be serving this country.  You are a damn nutcase.

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Agent0range
5 hours ago, and then said:

Well, I guess that bit of wit put me in my place, eh?  Be sure and stay tuned, it's apt to become very interesting from this point forward. 

LOL, and tell us, how is it becoming more interesting.  The orange maggot can't win a single case in court.  Georgia..blue.  Arizona..Blue.  He didn't anticipate any of that happening, that's why he focused on PA.  Conservative judge throws the case out.  The only thing interesting is the psychology of the Trump supporter.  I guarantee there will be many a documentary analyzing those fools.

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Golden Duck
25 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Now powell is dumped from team trump for being "too outlandish"  weeks gone by no proof of claims of fraud or vote machine issues, judges laughing trumps claims and Mr Brownsweat right out of countless courts this thread will be

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Very soon.

Does that mean Cucker Tarlson is back on the Christmas Card list?

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Golden Duck
20 minutes ago, Agent0range said:

LOL, and tell us, how is it becoming more interesting.  The orange maggot can't win a single case in court.  Georgia..blue.  Arizona..Blue.  He didn't anticipate any of that happening, that's why he focused on PA.  Conservative judge throws the case out.  The only thing interesting is the psychology of the Trump supporter.  I guarantee there will be many a documentary analyzing those fools.

... That being the case, we conclude that the time for analyzing Trump has ended. Now is the time to understand how Trump has analyzed us.
https://journals.uvic.ca/index.php/ctheory/article/view/16857/7177

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the13bats
1 hour ago, Golden Duck said:

Does that mean Cucker Tarlson is back on the Christmas Card list?

We should get him a nice fruit basket, im gonna miss him.

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bee
6 hours ago, South Alabam said:

Trump campaign cuts Sidney Powell from president’s legal team (msn.com)

President Donald Trump appears to have cut ties with Sidney Powell, a key member of his legal team who also represents former national security adviser Michael Flynn in his long-running attempt to unravel a guilty plea for lying about his 2016 contacts with Russia.

 

 

thanks.... just woke up (it's 6.40am here in the UK) and I'm going to see how this pans out a bit before making conclusions one way or the other about what's going on... I'd like to hear something from Sidney Powell herself - she has come over as very clear minded and outspoken so it will be interesting to see what she has to say about it ... 

  

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Tatetopa
9 hours ago, spartan max2 said:

So in conclusion you believe that Trump is so bad at appointing his own people that he needs to get information from Putin? 

That is because he is a people-person   Makes perfect sense.  He is the perfect leader for his followers.  He is giving a master class. Always trust your own gut feel.  Always blame others when things go wrong, Don't be constrained by facts. Be the victim in chief. And take care of yourself.  When the G20 meeting is too boring because  the are talking about that magically disappearing covid flu thingy, then just go play golf.  You can't love your country if you are not the most important person in it.

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bee
10 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

I thought as much.  There is proof of widespread cheating.  People are trying so hard not to step on the bodies.  The real question is will there be enough honest judges that will see through the Left’s corruption?  I suspect you will just roll over with a lack of interest.

 

 

This election battle is so deep and dirty... you have to wonder what's going on behind the scenes and how much pressure is being applied to the judges who will be called upon to make vital decisions.... it's not going to be just about honesty but bravery as well..

How many of them will get a Horse Head in the Bed* ....?

 

(*reference to a scene in the Godfather when a warning was sent by the Mafia...)

 

 

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Tatetopa
14 minutes ago, bee said:

This election battle is so deep and dirty... you have to wonder what's going on behind the scenes and how much pressure is being applied to the judges who will be called upon to make vital decisions.... it's not going to be just about honesty but bravery as well..

How many of them will get a Horse Head in the Bed* ....?

Sorry, Trump already tried that in plain sight.  When you summon state representatives to the White House and press them not to certify the election and appoint Republican electors,  that is pretty blatant interference.

Did he play them like Cuomo?  You don't like me so the 20 million people in your state won't get the vaccine.  If you don't do what I ask, I will withhold federal funds from your state.

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the13bats
49 minutes ago, bee said:

 

This election battle is so deep and dirty... you have to wonder what's going on behind the scenes and how much pressure is being applied to the judges who will be called upon to make vital decisions.... it's not going to be just about honesty but bravery as well..

How many of them will get a Horse Head in the Bed* ....?

 

(*reference to a scene in the Godfather when a warning was sent by the Mafia...)

 

 

You see it only from one angle, i see trump dropping horse heads in beds and the honest judges wont give into trump but rather follow the legal honest path, keep in mind zero proof of vote fraud has been presented if some is then we can talk but for now its just trump being a sore loser trying the bully, coerce and steal an election from American voters which you arent one of.

Like i said present proof if his claims and we can then work from there.

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the13bats
1 hour ago, bee said:

I'd like to hear something from Sidney Powell herself - she has come over as very clear minded and outspoken so it will be interesting to see what she has to say about it ... 

She supports the CT group Qanon, i cant say i call that a gauge of a clear mind,  do you support Qanon?

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RoofGardener

 

On 11/21/2020 at 9:18 AM, RAyMO said:

The dominion stuff was all garbage - the connection with ownership by Venezuela or Clinton foundation doesn't exist, the software they claim was used to rig the  election (unproven) in Venezuela was not used by dominion and is not owned by dominion, and while potential exists for any counting machines to have flaws and technical glitches, the USA use paper ballots allowing audits, hand recounts minimising any risk - this latter point being made by the professor who original suggested potential weakness. 

While we often disagree @RoofGardenerand I know that you would prefer a Trump victory, I am interested - at this point do you believe that Trump won this election? 

No. I think there was a degree of "fraud", some of which was just confusion over mail-in ballts (though it is intriguing that the error rate of such votes was MUCH lower than statistically expected).  However, I can't see it being big enough to sway the overall result. 

On 11/21/2020 at 11:48 AM, Helen of Annoy said:

It's very satisfying to see Brexiters sweat like Giuliani now, when their irrationally supremacist hopes are sinking with Trumptanic. ...

Huh ? What's the US election got to do with Brexit ? 

On 11/22/2020 at 2:09 AM, bee said:


I suppose if they can examine enough individual examples / cases - and get to the bottom of who sent dead people's ballots in  -I don't know what the procedure would be for it... because time is limited so they would only have time to present a sample... 
 

 

I've had a little think about this point... 

First... I haven't seen exactly how it all works but on one of the videos with Giuliani speaking he explains that once the envelope is separated from the ballot form then the fraudulent ballot is set free into the system to be counted (my words) and it can't be back traced  back- only counted as genuine - and if the envelopes are also destroyed or 'go astray' then there's a problem verifying - 

so unless individual ballots can be examined for discrepancies... the recount could have just recounted large numbers of fraudulent ballots..

now... after coming this far with the plan to steal the election - probably after planning it literally for years... the perpetrators are hardly going to give up at the first hurdle... how easy would it be to insert in more fraudulent ballots to tally up with the machine results - the count took place at numerous locations under the scrutiny of numerous officials... maybe the same officials who were part of the original fraud....

Like I said the perpetrators are not going to just give in and will fight tooth and nail to keep the perception that Biden won...

Maybe the first countermove was to have a voluntary count in Georgia ..... make sure individual ballots couldn't be examined but slip in enough extra fake ballots to make it look good... or just get key officials who were part of the original scam to give false reports of the totals.... I think there is only a difference of around 10 thousand now...

When it comes to the court cases that have already been thrown out - that have been used as a big thing to try and dismiss the whole election steal - I think most of them haven't come from the Trump Legal Team... so maybe the (very persistent) fraudsters have set up and sent in easy to dismiss cases and allegations as part of the fight back..... to strengthen there side of things... dunno...

I really can't see mass fraud working, @bee. It would just require far too many people for it to be kept a secret. 

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Sir Wearer of Hats
11 hours ago, and then said:

Imagine people being so filled with hate that they'd give the nuclear button to a near imbecile.

*cough*theDonald*cough*

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psyche101
56 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Like i said present proof if his claims and we can then work from there.

I think the time for that had passed.

If nothing submitted to date has had any more impact than to make people laugh, it's time to call the BS a day. Trumps had his tantrum. His loyal followers had their 15 minutes. They now look ridiculous. Powell was just the icing on the ridiculous cake. 

Loses the election. Not acceptable.

Recounts still coming up Biden. Not acceptable.

Court cases filed. None successful. Not acceptable.

Software questioned. Claims baseless. Not acceptable.

I think it's becoming apparent that we are just seeing poor losers being poor losers, it's quite clear from the above that nothing will be accepted unless it's in the orange idiots favour. 

When's enough enough?

I look forward to seeing the UNITED States back. Trumpland's global TV reality show needs to be axed.

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the13bats
9 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

I think the time for that had passed.

If nothing submitted to date has had any more impact than to make people laugh, it's time to call the BS a day. Trumps had his tantrum. His loyal followers had their 15 minutes. They now look ridiculous. Powell was just the icing on the ridiculous cake. 

Loses the election. Not acceptable.

Recounts still coming up Biden. Not acceptable.

Court cases filed. None successful. Not acceptable.

Software questioned. Claims baseless. Not acceptable.

I think it's becoming apparent that we are just seeing poor losers being poor losers, it's quite clear from the above that nothing will be accepted unless it's in the orange idiots favour. 

When's enough enough?

I look forward to seeing the UNITED States back. Trumpland's global TV reality show needs to be axed.

I hear you and agree i just get a feeling a few people are more than just sore losers i think they really do believe the claims you know like flat earthers, in their mind Trump got cheated so they are in the right even to the extent when biden is sworn in and trump is dragged out baby tantrump style they will still howl he was cheated as he will also cry and never stop crying it,

I saw a post eariler where one was hoping trump as much damage as he could on his way out, does that sound like a rational mind? A person cant love the country and at the same time want it to burn, when they do that i question why do they even live in that country.

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psyche101
4 minutes ago, the13bats said:

I hear you and agree i just get a feeling a few people are more than just sore losers i think they really do believe the claims you know like flat earthers, in their mind Trump got cheated so they are in the right even to the extent when biden is sworn in and trump is dragged out baby tantrump style they will still howl he was cheated as he will also cry and never stop crying it,

I saw a post eariler where one was hoping trump as much damage as he could on his way out, does that sound like a rational mind? A person cant love the country and at the same time want it to burn, when they do that i question why do they even live in that country.

You know what, I think that poster inadvertently got his wish.

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bee
14 hours ago, cerberusxp said:

 This depicts in part how the algorithm does it! https://ibb.co/h1x3Xds Here is an in depth analysis warning lengthy video mathematically impossible.

https://worldnewes.com/genius-patriot-edward-solomon-discovered-the-exact-dominion-algorithm-that-transferred-millions-of-votes-video/

 

1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

 

I really can't see mass fraud working, @bee. It would just require far too many people for it to be kept a secret. 

 

It isn't being kept a secret - that's why it's being talked about now... and has been talked about here and there before but not like it is now because it's been flushed out by this election and the level of fraud needed to try to keep Trump from winning...

The Crooked Voting Machines have probably been doing their fraudulent thing at a certain level for as long as machines have been used but this time it had to do so much more because of the number of votes for Trump...

I expect you could try to perpetrate a mass fraud just with very active and organized people in key positions, especially targeted swing states.... and others involved would just need to turn a blind eye or be too scared to speak up... too worried about the ostracism -

Rogue FBI + CIA + MSM + Big Tech + Foot Soldiers on and off the Internet ... would be giving support and acting as gatekeepers to the truth...

The movement towards Political Globalism and the  'Great Reset' working outside the democratic process - is a huge world wide thing and keeping Trump from a 2nd term would be part of it....  

So.... I basically disagree with what you said... :) ....

whether mass fraud works or not remains to be seen... 

 

edit.... part 2 of post below...

 

 

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@RoofGardener

oh forgot to say.... the reason I quoted the other post in my reply - was because it shows how sneaky and complicated the Voting Machine Fraud can be.... maybe not for a computer expert though.... but for the rest of us... 

to take evidence like that on board and understand it.... a judge would probably have to have assistance from a (trusted / honest) computer fraud specialist..

from what I gather about the subject - is that algorithms in software can be pre programmed to do this or that... but at subtle levels that don't arouse suspicion - but in this Election Battle.... it got flushed out because of the sheer high numbers of votes for Trump and the fraudsters need to do extra, on the spot meddling to get the result they wanted...

 

 

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Sir Wearer of Hats
9 minutes ago, bee said:

 

 

It isn't being kept a secret - that's why it's being talked about now... and has been talked about here and there before but not like it is now because it's been flushed out by this election and the level of fraud needed to keep Trump from (on the face of it) winning...

The Crooked Voting Machines have probably been doing their fraudulent thing at a certain level for as long as machines have been used but this time it had to do so much more because of the number of votes for Trump...

I expect you could try to perpetrate a mass fraud just with very active and organized people in key positions, especially targeted swing states.... and others involved would just need to turn a blind eye or be too scared to speak up... too worried about the ostracism -

Rogue FBI + CIA + MSM + Big Tech + Foot Soldiers on and off the Internet ... would be giving support and acting as gatekeepers to the truth...

The movement towards Political Globalism and the  'Great Reset' working outside the democratic process - is a huge world wide thing and keeping Trump from a 2nd term would be part of it....  

So.... I basically disagree with what you said... :) ....

whether mass fraud works or not remains to be seen... 

 

 

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the13bats
12 minutes ago, bee said:

The movement towards Political Globalism and the  'Great Reset' working outside the democratic process - is a huge world wide thing and keeping Trump from a 2nd term would be part of it....  

There you have it,  for no human sacrifice no dogs cats living togther no mass hysteria,

just the whole world all happy happy joy joy,

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All it takes is 4 more of trump :yes:

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Aroundthecorner
9 minutes ago, the13bats said:

There you have it,  for no human sacrifice no dogs cats living togther no mass hysteria,

just the whole world all happy happy joy joy,

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All it takes is 4 more of trump :yes:

Is that new york?

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psyche101
3 hours ago, bee said:

This election battle is so deep and dirty... you have to wonder what's going on behind the scenes and how much pressure is being applied to the judges who will be called upon to make vital decisions.... it's not going to be just about honesty but bravery as well..

How many of them will get a Horse Head in the Bed* ....?

 

(*reference to a scene in the Godfather when a warning was sent by the Mafia...)

From what I'm reading, the judges are getting a chuckle as they toss the cases out one by one.

Doesn't seem very horsey heady.

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bee
2 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Huh ? What's the US election got to do with Brexit ? 

 

populism

I posted this link earlier in the thread... and in it John Kerry is warning about populism... 

The Elite, like Kerry et al, are really determined to (re) stamp their authority on The People - and try to crush Populism...

Election Fraud and using crooked voting machines in the US Presidential Election would no doubt be welcomed by the Globalist Elite if it helped their agenda...

https://www.climatedepot.com/2020/11/19/john-kerry-talks-great-reset-were-at-the-dawn-of-extremely-exciting-time-at-world-economic-forum/

Biden already 

adopted the World Economic Forum’s “Build Back Better” slogan used for the Great Reset by using the phrase on the campaign trail this year.

Kerry also admitted that the rise of the nationalist-populist movement around the world is “a reflection of the inability of democratic governments in many parts of the world to deliver” on issues facing their citizens.

“What astounds me is that as many people still voted for the level of chaos and breach of law and order and breaking the standards and … I think that, the underlying reason for that is something that everybody has to examine,” Kerry said of the more than 71 million Americans who voted for Trump in the November 3 presidential election.

“I think Europe has to look at that with Brexit and the rising national populism — nationalistic populism. Which is really one of the priorities that we all have to address. You can’t dismiss it,” Kerry said.

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RAyMO
2 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

though it is intriguing that the error rate of such votes was MUCH lower than statistically expected

This could in part be down to high volume of advice that was pumped out on a multitude of websites of how to do it correctly. many were worried that efforts would be made to disenfranchise them and took heed of the advice. 

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