Call to criminalise harassment of girls

[Eldorado]

Half of young women and girls were harassed on Britain's streets during the summer, new research has found.

The survey, by girls' rights organisations Plan International UK and Our Streets Now, showed 51% experienced harassment over the summer, including being catcalled, followed, groped, flashed and *******ed.

It also found that a fifth (19%) experienced harassment during the first national lockdown in spring.

Full report at Sky News: Link

[the13bats]

Oh, the whole "grab em by the..." mentality must have drifted overseas, sorry bout that,

Edited November 23, 2020 by the13bats

[spartan max2]

Isn't harassment already a criminal offense? 

[Eldorado]

47 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

Isn't harassment already a criminal offense? 

Harassment is both a criminal offence and a civil action under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997.

This means that someone can be prosecuted in the criminal courts if they harass you. It also means you can take action against the person in the civil courts.

When is something harassment under the Act?

Generally speaking harassment is behaviour which causes you distress or alarm.

The Act also says you must have experienced at least two incidents by the same person or group of people for it to be harassment.

UK CAB: Link

[+Desertrat56]

4 hours ago, Eldorado said:

Half of young women and girls were harassed on Britain's streets during the summer, new research has found.

The survey, by girls' rights organisations Plan International UK and Our Streets Now, showed 51% experienced harassment over the summer, including being catcalled, followed, groped, flashed and *******ed.

It also found that a fifth (19%) experienced harassment during the first national lockdown in spring.

Full report at Sky News: Link

I saw a TED X talk by a British woman who got a law changed to curtail some of that.  Can't remember her name.  It is bad in the U.S. too.  The cultures are very similar  misogynism.

 

[+Desertrat56]

3 hours ago, the13bats said:

Oh, the whole "grab em by the..." mentality must have drifted overseas, sorry bout that,

Bull, it has been bad for years everywhere that "white" men walk.   (when I say white I am talking about pink/beige men who are predominantly from a Roman culture, which includes the UK, U.S., Australia, Itally, Spain, etc.)

[+Desertrat56]

1 hour ago, spartan max2 said:

Isn't harassment already a criminal offense? 

Yes, but the wording always gives the perptrater a way out because they can say "She encouraged it by her clothing".    Double standards.

Edited November 23, 2020 by Desertrat56

[spartan max2]

Just now, Desertrat56 said:

Yes, but the wording always gives the perptrator a way out because they can say "She encouraged it by her clothing".    Double standards.

Ehh. I feel like the law doesn't let you get off harassment by saying "she encouraged it by her clothing," I imagine it's just a hard thing to prove.

Like if you say I catcalled you everyday on your way to work. And I say I didn't. Then without other proof the judge can't really do anything.

[+Desertrat56]

4 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

Ehh. I feel like the law doesn't let you get off harassment by saying "she encouraged it by her clothing," I imagine it's just a hard thing to prove.

Like if you say I catcalled you everyday on your way to work. And I say I didn't. Then without other proof the judge can't really do anything.

Ask any woman who has been harrassed and gone to the authorities.  It is the reason the young woman in the UK worked so hard to get the laws changed.

[+Desertrat56]

 

[the13bats]

11 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

Bull, it has been bad for years everywhere that "white" men walk.   (when I say white I am talking about pink/beige men who are predominantly from a Roman culture, which includes the UK, U.S., Australia, Itally, Spain, etc.)

I was just pointing out that trump made it okay to act like that towards women, you know like trump made it okay to be racist.

Yeah, only white guys act that way

[the13bats]

11 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

Yes, but the wording always gives the perptrater a way out because they can say "She encouraged it by her clothing".    Double standards.

Read about porn guy ron Jeremy hes locked up for sexual charged from other porn workers,

[Aroundthecorner]

2 hours ago, the13bats said:

Read about porn guy ron Jeremy hes locked up for sexual charged from other porn workers,

Every day we get to see more about you mate. 

[the13bats]

45 minutes ago, Aroundthecorner said:

Every day we get to see more about you mate. 

As we do with you and your inane trolling.

[+Desertrat56]

12 hours ago, the13bats said:

I was just pointing out that trump made it okay to act like that towards women, you know like trump made it okay to be racist.

Yeah, only white guys act that way

No, not only white guys, but those are the ones that I encounter.  There are a lot of men in the Roman empire that are not white that act that way.  But in this case I Was talking about white men.  They claim they aren't biased but the words they use indicate otherwise (like calling each other "*****" to indicate weakness, when in fact that word in relation to human anatomy should indicate strength and endurance - think about it, where do babies come from and what happens after the baby is born, everything works as it did before - strength, endurance, resilience) - And I have never heard any non-pink/beige man say that kind of thing to another man.

I think adults can't use the excuse that "the president does it so it is ok for me..."  That doesn't work once you are 6 years old.  We live in a sick society and I understand that is what you were pointing out, but this kind of thing irks me so much I tend to just go on and on.  It feels like most men don't get it so I will repeat myself until I feel like enough men do get it.

Edited November 24, 2020 by Desertrat56

[aztek]

On 11/23/2020 at 8:46 AM, spartan max2 said:

Isn't harassment already a criminal offense? 

it prbly is,  i bet they want to broaden definition of it, so harassments becomes anything a girl does not like, if she feels harassed, it IS harassment, regardless of what it actually was. 

[Dreamer screamer]

culture mixing doesn't help when certain religions think that they can just abuse another culture.  The war out there is bad enough with the young and both sexes trying to pull.   Is this part of the agenda to depopulation?  scare everyone and move those lines further apart of what you can do and can't do so in the end no one bothers incase they end up in the slammer?  

Hello what's your name...

STOP HARRASSING ME !!!!

It's going to get very messy soon and this will lead to a BRAVE NEW WORLD.

Edited November 24, 2020 by dreamer screamer

[Duke Wellington]

On 11/23/2020 at 10:44 AM, Eldorado said:

Half of young women and girls were harassed on Britain's streets during the summer, new research has found.

The survey, by girls' rights organisations Plan International UK and Our Streets Now, showed 51% experienced harassment over the summer, including being catcalled, followed, groped, flashed and *******ed.

It also found that a fifth (19%) experienced harassment during the first national lockdown in spring.

Full report at Sky News: Link

Is pinching the bottom still allowed?

[the13bats]

5 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

No, not only white guys, but those are the ones that I encounter.  There are a lot of men in the Roman empire that are not white that act that way.  But in this case I Was talking about white men.  They claim they aren't biased but the words they use indicate otherwise (like calling each other "*****" to indicate weakness, when in fact that word in relation to human anatomy should indicate strength and endurance - think about it, where do babies come from and what happens after the baby is born, everything works as it did before - strength, endurance, resilience) - And I have never heard any non-pink/beige man say that kind of thing to another man.

I think adults can't use the excuse that "the president does it so it is ok for me..."  That doesn't work once you are 6 years old.  We live in a sick society and I understand that is what you were pointing out, but this kind of thing irks me so much I tend to just go on and on.  It feels like most men don't get it so I will repeat myself until I feel like enough men do get it.

Im pleased you know im just being my ironic sarcasric self,  i believe some perspective we have on this is based on our personal worlds, i was raised by a grandmother and mom and then a profession in nightclubs, music bands.

Im glad this stuff irks you, it irks me that trumps made so many things that are inexcusable "okay" i wish more people had the decently to be bothered by it but they dont, they down play it, make excuses and laugh about it much like racist do about being bigots.

While it appeals to trumps worshippers this wasnt all trumps fault its been going on for a long time,

In my club world i didnt see the types who do this as mostly light skinned guys, no, i saw it even across all races, but it wasnt a large number of guys being cheeseballs, just a few that wore out their welcomes quickly.

and have you looked around places like facebook or tiktok there is an ilk of girls who want to show off and get noticed and do so appearing as sexual as possible, all desire attention but some will actually get cross when a person notices their efforts, does that mean any are asking for sexual misconduct?

It means that a person shouldnt cross that line to start with, its why while extreme i posted the ron Jeremy example, even a sex trade worker shouldnt be sexually assaulted.

6 hours ago, aztek said:

it prbly is,  i bet they want to broaden definition of it, so harassments becomes anything a girl does not like, if she feels harassed, it IS harassment, regardless of what it actually was. 

It makes a good true point if a person doesnt like it it IS harassment, because it doesnt matter what the perpetrator wants to pretend it actually was, if the person whose receiving it feels it crossed their line it did, so dont cross peoples lines, then moan they are in the wrong. And remember bottom line the people who want to down play it, make excuses etc are the cheeseballs committing the offenses.

Remember that runner who slapped the reporters bum, yeah, his only reqret was getting busted, fired and legal issues, pretty darn lame for him to try to blubber he respects women after pulling a sexual physical assault on a lady only after he got in hot water.

So now the laws are going to have to be all set up to cover things, for example to me what is sexual harassment on a job should be viewed as sexual harassment across the board but its not yet.

 

[TigerBright19]

I guess celebrities are above the law.

 

Thousands line the streets for 'Uncle Jimmy' Savile's funeral, with Motorcade, marine escort, golden casket, 5 star treatment, and even a shrine.

 

 

One year later

 

 

Edited November 24, 2020 by TigerBright19

[Dreamer screamer]

5 minutes ago, TigerBright19 said:

I guess celebrities are above the law.

 

Thousands line the streets for 'Uncle Jimmy' Savile's funeral, with Motorcade, marine escort, golden casket, 5 star treatment, and even a shrine.

 

 

One year later

 

 

And yet when David icke told people he was a paedophile, no one believed him.   When he said an attack was going to happen like to pearl harbour, 911 happened.  Now he is telling people a virus isn't real, they srill ignore him.    I guess the paper has to tell us the truth first?

[RAyMO]

13 minutes ago, dreamer screamer said:

And yet when David icke told people he was a paedophile, no one believed him.   When he said an attack was going to happen like to pearl harbour, 911 happened.  Now he is telling people a virus isn't real, they srill ignore him.    I guess the paper has to tell us the truth first?

most people stopped listening to him when he told us he was The Son of God, and not in the metaphorical sense. 

[the13bats]

19 minutes ago, dreamer screamer said:

a virus isn't real

Tell all the people who died from it.

[Dreamer screamer]

10 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Tell all the people who died from it.

I hate using these things. Interesting this came up.   To contact the DEAD notice they use all caps.   When you get a bill, it's addressed in all caps.  They're addressing the DEAD corporation!

Edited November 24, 2020 by dreamer screamer

[Dreamer screamer]

11 minutes ago, RAyMO said:

most people stopped listening to him when he told us he was The Son of God, and not in the metaphorical sense. 

He was the GOD HEAD!!  at least get it right!!   The son.sun of GOD is Jesus christ.