Christian Zionists and US Foreign Policy

[Grim Reaper 6]

Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, was assassinated in a daytime ambush on Friday, according to Iranian State Media. Fakhrizadeh was apparently fatally wounded after a car he was traveling in was attacked by armed gunmen and an apparent truck bomb as it drove through a town west of Tehran. Iranian officials have blamed Israel for the attack, with foreign minister Mohammad Javad Zarif calling it an act of state-sponsored terrorism and the country’s top military commander vowing “harsh retaliation” against anyone involved. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/what-we-know-about-the-assassination-of-iran-s-top-nuclear-scientist/ar-BB1br4Ry

I understand why some forum members want this conflict to occur so badly. It is all do to the fact that they have Christian Zionist beliefs and that do to Biblical Prophecies that are taught as part of those Religious beliefs a war with Iran will take them closer to seeing the prophecy fulfilled. I understand that by these beliefs Abraham was given land by God that would belong to the Jewish people forever, and do to transgressions against God they were punished and forced off these lands. The Prophecy goes on to say that according to the beliefs of the Christian Zionist faith that once Israel becomes a state again which it did in 1948, that marks the beginning of the end times.

To complete the Prophecy the Jewish people must return and occupy their traditional home lands which encompasses more than the lands currently occupied by Israel. When that occurs the Second Coming of Christ will occur which will lead to the final battle of Armageddon. This is why they want to see a war occur with Iran, because that is also part of the Prophecy that their Religious faith believe in,  now I am not degrading anyones religious Beliefs, however, I am outlining why some forum members are so excited about the possible conflict with Iran.

I am also outlining the Christian Zionist influence on US Foreign Policy, and how the Trump Administration has been involved in pushing the Christian Zionist Agenda, and also how they were involved in President Trumps election in 2016. Everything that involves the Christian Zionist grip on the White House through their Ultimate Agenda is listed below

Inclosing let me say this is not a Conspiracy Theory Thread, everything I have outlined here is factually and correct, if anyone has any doubt about the authenticity of my comments read the links below, or better than that do a little research you will be very surprised at what you will find!!!

How Christian Zionists got their man into the White House in 2016: https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/how-christian-zionists-got-their-man-white-house

Brought to Jesus’: the evangelical grip on the Trump administration: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/11/trump-administration-evangelical-influence-support

Trump, Pence, Jerusalem: the Christian Zionism connection: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/trump-pence-jerusalem-christian-zionism-connection/

Here is a link that describes the Christian Zionist beliefs:  https://xyz.net.au/2019/02/christian-zionism-satans-end-times-deception-church/

In addition to this, the Trump Administration has been guided by Christian Zionists since 2016, the Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is a Christian Zionist and also the Vice President of the united States VP Pence is a Christian Zionist. Along with this the Presidential religious advisers Pastor Hagee and Pastor Jeffress are also Christian Zionists and this why President Trump pulled out of the Iranian Nuclear Deal, and also why President Trump designated Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel. Not to mention that at the ceremony for the move of the United States  Embassy to Jerusalem that Pastor Hagee and Pastor Jeffress gave the opening and closing speeches at that Ceremony. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/13/politics/hagee-jeffress-us-embassy-jerusalem/index.html

Chuck Baldwin Destroys Christian Zionism and Perpetual Wars:https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/05/25/chuck-baldwin-destroys-christian-zionism-and-perpetual-wars/ 

‘Christian Zionists’ dictate the agenda of the Republican Party: http://jordantimes.com/opinion/ramzy-baroud/‘christian-zionists’-dictate-agenda-republican-party

A brief history of Israel and their relationship to other Nations and the United States: http://hugequestions.com/Eric/HistoryOfIsraelAndTheUSA.html

The Christian Zionist Agenda Part 1:  https://rense.com/general75/zagend.htm

Pompeo Aligns U.S. Foreign Policy With Christian Zionists:  https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/01/07/pompeo-aligns-u-s-foreign-policy-with-the-christian-zionists/

Christian Zionists celebrate another victory under Trump, reversal on settlements policy:  https://mondoweiss.net/2019/12/christian-zionists-celebrate-another-victory-under-trump-reversal-on-settlements-policy/

Christian Nationalist and Christian Zionists march lockstep to secure another four years for Trump: https://www.mintpressnews.com/christian-nationalists-christian-zionists-secure-another-four-years-for-trump/270259/

American Christian Zionism: The Deep Background and the Current Situation: https://www.juancole.com/2018/03/christian-background-situation.html

‘Apocalyptic foreign policy,’ the Republicans’ evangelical mission: https://mondoweiss.net/2020/09/apocalyptic-foreign-policy-the-republicans-evangelical-mission/

Thanks for taking the time to read the information in my thread, this is a story were facts are Stranger then Fiction, and again while it may seem to unbelievable this is not a Conspiracy Theory, everything is true:

 

Edited November 28, 2020 by Manwon Lender

[odas]

2020/2021. And, we still believe in books written by man, 1000, 2000, 3000 years ago. We still kill each other because of our belifs. We have not moved an inch in our mind, we are still wild early humanlike creatures.

2020/2021. We explore the Moon, Mars, the universe. We produce vaccines to help people. We have electric cars, smartphones, computers, voice activated Home gadgets. We fly, we go to the depest areas of our oceans. 

Yet, our minds and hearts are poisened by adult tales and lies full of horror and hate.

Science has to rise above all this hate and lead humanity.

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

13 hours ago, odas said:

2020/2021. And, we still believe in books written by man, 1000, 2000, 3000 years ago. We still kill each other because of our belifs. We have not moved an inch in our mind, we are still wild early humanlike creatures.

2020/2021. We explore the Moon, Mars, the universe. We produce vaccines to help people. We have electric cars, smartphones, computers, voice activated Home gadgets. We fly, we go to the depest areas of our oceans. 

Yet, our minds and hearts are poisened by adult tales and lies full of horror and hate.

Science has to rise above all this hate and lead humanity., 

 

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You would think that of all the forms of death man is faced with, and the fact that this is the only one that we could change, people would understand that no Just, Loving, Kind, and Caring God would allow people to use his name for the sole purpose of killing their fellow man. This is why at a Young age I walked away from the Christian Faith and never looked back!!! I could not justify in my mind how a loving, kind and caring God could use threats of Damnation and Torture to make his followers believe in his teachings. Unfortchanately people of all faiths all to often use their Gods name in vain to justify, hatred, thief, Jealousy, Murder and many other crimes to get what they want!!!!!!!

Thanks very much for your comments my friend.

Edited November 29, 2020 by Saru
Removed personal attack

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2 hours ago, odas said:

Yet, our minds and hearts are poisened by adult tales and lies full of horror and hate.

Science has to rise above all this hate and lead humanity.

That's what's known as HUMAN NATURE.  The pearl clutching, sunny Pollyanas can dream about better days from now until the last day and they'll NEVER remove that nature from the heart of mankind.  THAT is strictly an "inside" job.  All your science has achieved is to bring us closer to total annihilation.  Whatever comes in our future, we ALL contributed to it.  There are no innocents except children.

[odas]

2 minutes ago, and then said:

That's what's known as HUMAN NATURE.  The pearl clutching, sunny Pollyanas can dream about better days from now until the last day and they'll NEVER remove that nature from the heart of mankind.  THAT is strictly an "inside" job.  All your science has achieved is to bring us closer to total annihilation.  Whatever comes in our future, we ALL contributed to it.  There are no innocents except children.

In your own words " if you feel somehow bothered with my posts, feel free to hit the ignore button", aaaaaannnddd thank you kindly!

[+and-then]

5 minutes ago, odas said:

In your own words " if you feel somehow bothered with my posts, feel free to hit the ignore button", aaaaaannnddd thank you kindly!

That's what we call a "response".  In most places that's how adults carry on discussions.  I ignore who I choose and your opinions of me don't bother me enough to put you on that list.  You're entitled to believe as you wish.  Calling me an alcoholic is dead, straight up accurate and I'll NEVER deny it because that self awareness is my only insurance for staying alive.  It never bothers me when people tell the truth about me, regardless of it being embarrassing.  Adults tend to roll that way.  

[ethereal_scout]

What is a Christian Zionist - surely there's a contradiction there? I thought you could only be a Jewish Zionist. OR have the jews decided they're now Christian - or is it in response to the Muslims?

[Katniss]

11 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, was assassinated in a daytime ambush on Friday, according to Iranian State Media. Fakhrizadeh was apparently fatally wounded after a car he was traveling in was attacked by armed gunmen and an apparent truck bomb as it drove through a town west of Tehran. Iranian officials have blamed Israel for the attack, with foreign minister Mohammad Javad Zarif calling it an act of state-sponsored terrorism and the country’s top military commander vowing “harsh retaliation” against anyone involved. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/what-we-know-about-the-assassination-of-iran-s-top-nuclear-scientist/ar-BB1br4Ry

I understand why some forum members want this conflict to occur so badly. It is all do to the fact that they have Christian Zionist beliefs and that do to Biblical Prophecies that are taught as part of those Religious beliefs a war with Iran will take them closer to seeing the prophecy fulfilled. I understand that by these beliefs Abraham was given land by God that would belong to the Jewish people forever, and do to transgressions against God they were punished and forced off these lands. The Prophecy goes on to say that according to the beliefs of the Christian Zionist faith that once Israel becomes a state again which it did in 1948, that marks the beginning of the end times.

To complete the Prophecy the Jewish people must return and occupy their traditional home lands which encompasses more than the lands currently occupied by Israel. When that occurs the Second Coming of Christ will occur which will lead to the final battle of Armageddon. This is why they want to see a war occur with Iran, because that is also part of the Prophecy that their Religious faith believe in,  now I am not degrading anyones religious Beliefs, however, I am outlining why some forum members are so excited about the possible conflict with Iran.

I am also outlining the Christian Zionist influence on US Foreign Policy, and how the Trump Administration has been involved in pushing the Christian Zionist Agenda, and also how they were involved in President Trumps election in 2016. Everything that involves the Christian Zionist grip on the White House through their Ultimate Agenda is listed below

Inclosing let me say this is not a Conspiracy Theory Thread, everything I have outlined here is factually and correct, if anyone has any doubt about the authenticity of my comments read the links below, or better than that do a little research you will be very surprised at what you will find!!!

 

Wow! I didn't know hardly any of this until you posted this. Thanks. I knew religion was behind a lot of it and just thought it was mostly evangelicals. But this makes so much more sense now.

I did a little more digging and found this too;

Why I’m Not a Christian Zionist

After reading a lot of your links and the link I found, I don't think they have the right to call themselves true Christians. More like modern Crusaders if anything.

[Grim Reaper 6]

8 minutes ago, ethereal_scout said:

What is a Christian Zionist - surely there's a contradiction there? I thought you could only be a Jewish Zionist. OR have the jews decided they're now Christian - or is it in response to the Muslims?

Hello and thanks for your comments, however there is no contradiction at all and this has blindside many Americans because when the word Zionist is used in any context they automatically equate it with the Jewish people and with Israel. In truth the Christian Zionists are extreme right form of the Christian faith and they can be found in all counties that practice the Christian faith. No it is not in responce to Muslims, it is however a direct response to Bibical Prophecies outline in the Christian Bible. However, while all Christians use the Christian bible to practice their faith, Christian Zionist Evangelicals interpret what is written differently than other Christians who are faithful believers in God and his Son Jesus Christ. 

No disrepect to any Christian Zionists who are forum members, but Christian Zionism is a very far right Christian Faith, however, even with said they have multimillions of followers Nationwide and they were the unknown majority that helped put President Trump win his election for President of the United States in 2016. I have provided some links for you below, that will answer your question better than I can.

What does American and World Christian Zionism mean: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

Christian Zionism, the religious right, and Donald Trump: Histories role in Comtemporary Politics: https://ash.harvard.edu/christian-zionism-religious-right-and-donald-trump-history’s-role-contemporary-politics

Christian Zionists are Israels foot soldiers in the United States: https://thearabweekly.com/christian-zionists-are-israels-political-foot-soldiers-us 

 Thank you very much for your post my Friend, if I have not given you the necessary information to answer your question, please let me know. The links I have provided below should be most helpful to you, if not or you are more interested in this subject, go back to the opening post, there is a large amount of information that can be accessed there through the provided links.

Take Care and I hope this thread finds you and your family Health, Happy and Safe!

[the13bats]

11 minutes ago, Katniss said:

Wow! I didn't know hardly any of this until you posted this. Thanks. I knew religion was behind a lot of it and just thought it was mostly evangelicals. But this makes so much more sense now.

I did a little more digging and found this too;

Why I’m Not a Christian Zionist

After reading a lot of your links and the link I found, I don't think they have the right to call themselves true Christians. More like modern Crusaders if anything.

Yeah well a lot of them just use it as a label because it doesnt sound as badly out loud as "radical extremist racist"

[the13bats]

Keep in mind the KKK was a "Christian" group.

[Katniss]

4 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Yeah well a lot of them just use it as a label because it doesnt sound as badly out loud as "radical extremist racist"

When you called them "Trump worshipers" in past threads ( BTW, did I quote you right?), did you know there might be more behind that meaning than what you typed? Because I was thinking they just had a Trump cult mentality, because he is their mouthpiece and number one A-Hole, but now I'm thinking they might see him as something more than that, like the reincarnation of John the Baptist or even the messiah.

[odas]

1 hour ago, and then said:

That's what we call a "response".  In most places that's how adults carry on discussions.  I ignore who I choose and your opinions of me don't bother me enough to put you on that list.  You're entitled to believe as you wish.  Calling me an alcoholic is dead, straight up accurate and I'll NEVER deny it because that self awareness is my only insurance for staying alive.  It never bothers me when people tell the truth about me, regardless of it being embarrassing.  Adults tend to roll that way.  

AT, alcohol in moderation is good. And sometimes I get wasted. I like to socialise and drinking is in my culture. But, I never let alcohol consume me. Never went from one extreme to the other. I am just thinking out loud here, but maybe you trying to get away from your addiction, one extreme, got you to the religious insanity, other extreme.

Duncan, I was able to have many nice conversations with you in the past but your statements took a disturbing turn.

Really not my business, but try to get some real help with your extreems. Overall life is worth living and it is so much more beautifull when you are free of addictions and hate.

Man, I do wish you all the best.

[Grim Reaper 6]

9 minutes ago, Katniss said:

Wow! I didn't know hardly any of this until you posted this. Thanks. I knew religion was behind a lot of it and just thought it was mostly evangelicals. But this makes so much more sense now.

I did a little more digging and found this too;

Why I’m Not a Christian Zionist

After reading a lot of your links and the link I found, I don't think they have the right to call themselves true Christians. More like modern Crusaders if anything.

You know Katness very few Americans know about how a Religious organization is actually controlling US Foriegn Policy, and for many of those who do learn about it, it's a scary subject. What amazes me is that something like can happen right under the nose of the American Public, but at the sametime it is not openly discussed by any major media sources and I don't know why. As far as calling themselves Christians in reality they actual are, but followers of Christian Zionist Faith are the Extreme Religious  Right. What interrests me about this subject is that they use the same Bible as all Christians do, except they interpret Bibical Prophesies and teachings differently than other Christian Faiths.

I have put a great deal of research into this subject, and I am very glad that you and others find the information in my thread useful. Like you said above it explains a lot of things that have gone on over the last 4 years that seemed a little strange. It also clearly Shows how US Foriegn Policy has been driven during that frame and even now by Christian Zionism. The recent death of the Iranian General that the US Killed by a Cruise Missile attack a few months back, and the way that the Trump Administration pulled out of the Iranian Nuclear Deal, along with the death of the Top Iranian Nuclear  Scientiet can all be directly attributed to the Christian Zionist influence on US Foriegn policy.

Thank you for the link you provided and I am very glad you found the information in this thread useful. For me personally, I find  the fact that our Givernment would allow the  influence of a Far RightbReligious  organization dictate American National policy decisions is not only dangerous, but not in the best interest of the American People in anyway possible.

Take Care Katniss and thanks again for your kind words and the link you supplied.

Oh and by the way knowledge is the most important ammunition we have when it comes to fighting a threat like this. Hopefully  in the near future this subject will be brought to light in such a way that all Americans will know what has been going on for so many years!!

[Grim Reaper 6]

39 minutes ago, Katniss said:

When you called them "Trump worshipers" in past threads ( BTW, did I quote you right?), did you know there might be more behind that meaning than what you typed? Because I was thinking they just had a Trump cult mentality, because he is their mouthpiece and number one A-Hole, but now I'm thinking they might see him as something more than that, like the reincarnation of John the Baptist or even the messiah.

Your right that is why so many are finatical about their beliefs concerning Trump, and this why I have been very assertive concerning my views of him and his administration for so long. It is also why I have no use him, and it is not based upon the fact like many here claim that I am just a hater. But, I must make this clear Trump is not religious, he is nothing but a puppet that is being controlled. The real person who is getting him to allow the Christian Zionists to control the Foriegn Policy of the United States is VP Mike Pence. The Actual players that are controlling this are Vice President Pence and Secretary of State Pompeo, along with the Christian Zionist religious advisers to the President. 

The reason VP Mike Pence was placed in a position to become Trumps VP, was because Trump sold his soul to the devil to win his Election as the President of the United States in 2016. Pence brought the Christian Zionists to the table and also influenced the Christian vote which was a major factor in Trumps election in 2016. I said above that Trump sold his soul to the devil to get elected, well that deal involved promises to the Christian Zionist Leadership that he would support their cause through the use of US Foriegn Policy.

However, Pence was the one who brought all of  that to the table, and that is why President Trump choose him to be his Vice President. Now move forward to the 2020 election, and if you look closely the amount of Christian voters have changed their view of Trump. This occurred because of his actions over the last 4 years ( Openly Racist views, causing the division of America along racial and political lines, the manner in which he treated women, and his lack of action on the Pandemic ) which alienated many Non-Christian Zionists, In fact many Christian faiths across America were disgusted by his behavior. 

With that said their rebellion is easily seen by the results of the Election November 3, in addition to not full filling his promises to those he sold his soul to in 2016. But, even with this threat ( Trump ) eliminated that does end the Christian Zionist lobby in Washington DC, becuase their next candidate has already asserted himself, and mark my words we will see his familiar face nominated for the Presidency in 2024, and that will be our current Vice President Mike Pence. Wait and see what happens over the next 4 years, Mike Pence is not going to just fade away, his face will remain one that is commonly seen. 

But, this is a good thing becuase the old saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer certainly applies here. 

Take care Catness

[Katniss]

1 hour ago, Manwon Lender said:

You know Katness very few Americans know about how a Religious organization is actually controlling US Foriegn Policy, and for many of those who do learn about it, it's a scary subject. What amazes me is that something like can happen right under the nose of the American Public, but at the sametime it is not openly discussed by any major media sources and I don't know why. As far as calling themselves Christians in reality they actual are, but followers of Christian Zionist Faith are the Extreme Religious  Right. What interrests me about this subject is that they use the same Bible as all Christians do, except they interpret Bibical Prophesies and teachings differently than other Christian Faiths.

I have put a great deal of research into this subject, and I am very glad that you and others find the information in my thread useful. Like you said above it explains a lot of things that have gone on over the last 4 years that seemed a little strange. It also clearly Shows how US Foriegn Policy has been driven during that frame and even now by Christian Zionism. The recent death of the Iranian General that the US Killed by a Cruise Missile attack a few months back, and the way that the Trump Administration pulled out of the Iranian Nuclear Deal, along with the death of the Top Iranian Nuclear  Scientiet can all be directly attributed to the Christian Zionist influence on US Foriegn policy.

Thank you for the link you provided and I am very glad you found the information in this thread useful. For me personally, I find  the fact that our Givernment would allow the  influence of a Far RightbReligious  organization dictate American National policy decisions is not only dangerous, but not in the best interest of the American People in anyway possible.

Take Care Katniss and thanks again for your kind words and the link you supplied.

Oh and by the way knowledge is the most important ammunition we have when it comes to fighting a threat like this. Hopefully  in the near future this subject will be brought to light in such a way that all Americans will know what has been going on for so many years!!

I'm sorry to say, but I disagree, Manwon Lender. To me real, real Christians don't seek power, material wealth, fame, worship money like an idol. Judge and look down on others that don't follow their beliefs or fall in disgrace. Remember the story of the prostitute? They don't go preaching religious dogma. They help wherever and whenever they can. They work on themselves constantly to be more perfect. They actually live by the Golden Rule. We see and hear very few in the world today. People like Mother Teresa comes to my mind.
 

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I have put a great deal of research into this subject, and I am very glad that you and others find the information in my thread useful. Like you said above it explains a lot of things that have gone on over the last 4 years that seemed a little strange. It also clearly Shows how US Foriegn Policy has been driven during that frame and even now by Christian Zionism. The recent death of the Iranian General that the US Killed by a Cruise Missile attack a few months back, and the way that the Trump Administration pulled out of the Iranian Nuclear Deal, along with the death of the Top Iranian Nuclear  Scientiet can all be directly attributed to the Christian Zionist influence on US Foriegn policy.

Thank you for the link you provided and I am very glad you found the information in this thread useful. For me personally, I find  the fact that our Givernment would allow the  influence of a Far RightbReligious  organization dictate American National policy decisions is not only dangerous, but not in the best interest of the American People in anyway possible.

Take Care Katniss and thanks again for your kind words and the link you supplied.

Oh and by the way knowledge is the most important ammunition we have when it comes to fighting a threat like this. Hopefully  in the near future this subject will be brought to light in such a way that all Americans will know what has been going on for so many years!!

 

I noticed how the Trump Admin was going all out with making deals and trying their best to be peace makers in the Middle East, and Israel specifically, for the last four years. I mean they were really putting an effort into that more than any previous Admin. had done before. Now it all makes since as to why they are so obsessed on that.

Edited November 29, 2020 by Katniss

[Katniss]

13 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Your right that is why so many are finatical about their beliefs concerning Trump, and this why I have been very assertive concerning my views of him and his administration for so long. It is also why I have no use him, and it is not based upon the fact like many here claim that I am just a hater. But, I must make this clear Trump is not religious, he is nothing but a puppet that is being controlled. The real person who is getting him to allow the Christian Zionists to control the Foriegn Policy of the United States is VP Mike Pence. The Actual players that are controlling this are Vice President Pence and Secretary of State Pompeo, along with the Christian Zionist religious advisers to the President. 

The reason VP Mike Pence was placed in a position to become Trumps VP, was because Trump sold his soul to the devil to win his Election as the President of the United States in 2016. Pence brought the Christian Zionists to the table and also influenced the Christian vote which was a major factor in Trumps election in 2016. I said above that Trump sold his soul to the devil to get elected, well that deal involved promises to the Christian Zionist Leadership that he would support their cause through the use of US Foriegn Policy.

However, Pence was the one who brought all of  that to the table, and that is why President Trump choose him to be his Vice President. Now move forward to the 2020 election, and if you look closely the amount of Christian voters have changed their view of Trump. This occurred because of his actions over the last 4 years ( Openly Racist views, causing the division of America along racial and political lines, the manner in which he treated women, and his lack of action on the Pandemic ) which alienated many Non-Christian Zionists, In fact many Christian faiths across America were disgusted by his behavior. 

With that said their rebellion is easily seen by the results of the Election November 3, in addition to not full filling his promises to those he sold his soul to in 2016. But, even with this threat ( Trump ) eliminated that does end the Christian Zionist lobby in Washington DC, becuase their next candidate has already asserted himself, and mark my words we will see his familiar face nominated for the Presidency in 2024, and that will be our current Vice President Mike Pence. Wait and see what happens over the next 4 years, Mike Pence is not going to just fade away, his face will remain one that is commonly seen. 

But, this is a good thing becuase the old saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer certainly applies here. 

Take care Catness

That make sense too and sucks to be quite honest! I'm hoping that you're wrong, but I have a bad gut feeling that you're probably right now that you mentioned him. While I would like to see a different person as president every 4 years, he's definitely not one of those I'd like to see as president. I don't care what they base their specific religion on, but I don't like religious control freaks because they remind me of Hitler and right wing socialism.

[the13bats]

1 hour ago, Katniss said:

When you called them "Trump worshipers" in past threads ( BTW, did I quote you right?), did you know there might be more behind that meaning than what you typed? Because I was thinking they just had a Trump cult mentality, because he is their mouthpiece and number one A-Hole, but now I'm thinking they might see him as something more than that, like the reincarnation of John the Baptist or even the messiah.

Yes, you did qoute me dead on, ive explained myself a few times and its due time for an update,

There were perhaps still are trump "supporters" a life long buddy of mine is one, you were one 2016, and when my reply is about a "supporter" i say that.

However, here i have learned that it goes far deeper than trump the president there is a ilk that do place him trump the man in a god like position, comparable to worshippers of jim jones,  why people worship such flawed idols is a mystery to me,

Im not sure i would say the worshippers compare trump to or view him as a known bibilcal figure as they likely place him above them but they most certainly do place him in company with a messiah figure,

ive noticed that their worship of trump is non yielding its unconditional they are completely blind to his countless failures and anyone who doesnt share that same deep blind on their knees worship of trump is the enemy and target of hate filled attacks.

You might have noticed the worshippers were fine with the GOP until the GOP refused to bend a knee to trump and support his lies and failure they were tired of him damaging the GOP so now the GOP is added to the trump worshipper hate list.

It wouldnt surprise me at all if after trump leaves the WH jan 20th if he tries to save face and placate his ego with a persuit of a 2024 indy party run that it will form slowly but will be far more a cult of trump that any indy run every before seen, with same agendas of hate and division, blaming others for trump and his worshippers personal fails and endless empty promises all the same stuff that cost him 2020.

If he runs 2024 and of course wont win it will be this same rhetoric about fraud and being cheated out of votes, his worshippers will blindly believe it as they now do, we see them post their endless undying support on here with neither any proof to back up claims, because for those worshippers no proof is needed all they need is their belief because their messiah said so.

Yep, your thinking is correct, now watch them prove my points.

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 minute ago, Katniss said:

I'm sorry to say, but I disagree, Manwon Lender. To me real, real Christians don't seek power, material wealth, fame, worship money like an idol. Judge and look down on others that don't follow their beliefs or fall in disgrace. Remember the story of the prostitute? They don't go preaching religious dogma. They help wherever and whenever they can. They work on themselves constantly to be more perfect. They actually live by the Golden Rule. We see and hear very few in the world today. People like Mother Teresa comes to my mind.
 

I noticed how the Trump Admin was going all out with making deals and and trying their best to be peace makers in the Middle East, and Israel specifically, for the last four years. I mean they were really putting an effort into that more than any previous Admin. had done before. Now it all makes since why they are so obsessed on that.

Yes that is very true, however their true intentions were not to make peace. Actually this intentions were to make what appeared to be a peaceful resolution to the threats to Israel, however if you look at everything that has been done they gave not actually addressed the real threats to Israeli peace at all. Even the so called peace he has attempted to broker with the UAE, is nothing but, Smoke and Mirrors and in reality it is nothing but a plan for additional Economic resources for Israel.

Below is a companion threat I started to enhance this thread, and to explain the purpose of the so called peace plans brought forward by the United States with the intent to disguise their true intentions. It also explains why the current direct they are using will not solve anything for Israels security.

Enjoy and please let me know if you can see my point and if it clearly explains how the current peace process is nothing but a shame intended to deceive those who do not understand what they true intentions are.

Take Care Catness.

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1 hour ago, odas said:

Really not my business, but try to get some real help with your extreems. Overall life is worth living and it is so much more beautifull when you are free of addictions and hate.

Man, I do wish you all the best.

^^^ beautifully said, perfect!

[Katniss]

11 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Yes that is very true, however their true intentions were not to make peace. Actually this intentions were to make what appeared to be a peaceful resolution to the threats to Israel, however if you look at everything that has been done they gave not actually addressed the real threats to Israeli peace at all. Even the so called peace he has attempted to broker with the UAE, is nothing but, Smoke and Mirrors and in reality it is nothing but a plan for additional Economic resources for Israel.

Below is a companion threat I started to enhance this thread, and to explain the purpose of the so called peace plans brought forward by the United States with the intent to disguise their true intentions. It also explains why the current direct they are using will not solve anything for Israels security.

Enjoy and please let me know if you can see my point and if it clearly explains how the current peace process is nothing but a shame intended to deceive those who do not understand what they true intentions are.

Take Care Catness.

No I knew or suspected it was all a shame before reading that and the links. But I didn't know what their game was or what they all hoped to get out of it. But I understand now.

[Grim Reaper 6]

27 minutes ago, Katniss said:

That make sense too and sucks to be quite honest! I'm hoping that you're wrong, but I have a bad gut feeling that you're probably right now that you mentioned him. While I would like to see a different person as president every 4 years, he's definitely not one of those I'd like to see as president. I don't care what they base their specific religion on, but I don't like religious control freaks because they remind me of Hitler and right wing socialism.

While I know this all may appear to be some far fetched Conspiracy Theory, its one of those instances where the truth is actually stranger than any fiction could possible be. I don't know if you have read many of my other posts, you would know that I do not propagate or support Conspiracy Theories of any kind I base my comments on available information not on assumptions like so many forum members do.

Everything I have proposed is based upon research I have been doing over the last year, with no added information designed to confuse anyone, that's the way I role Catness. Now, I am not saying I can not make mistakes, however if something I said does not become a fact, it is not do too any intentional deception on my part. 

Just watch what happens with Mike Pence over the next 4 years. During the Trump Presidency he was keep in the back ground as much as possible so that Trumps behavior would not be associated with him in the future. That way he would become a recognized face, but not be associated directly with Trumps foolish behavior. In addition by remaining quit and in the back ground as much as possible he could say that he was also appalled by it, but was unable to stop it which give him an out if that subject is brought up in the future.

Take Care Catness.

Edited November 29, 2020 by Manwon Lender

[Grim Reaper 6]

Here is a message Trump put out to Christian Zionist Brethren, what it means I have no idea. But, it was not done to say he is a religious man, because before that photo taken peaceful demonstrators were attacked by a Number of Government Police, using Billy Clubs and Tear Gas without even asking the demonstrators to move. Then Trump walks out and does is now famous stance in front of that Church, I think that was the single weirdest thing that occurred during the entire period of unrest that our Nation encountered, I just dont even know what to think or say about it except Weird very Weird!!!!!

 

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11 hours ago, ethereal_scout said:

What is a Christian Zionist - surely there's a contradiction there? I thought you could only be a Jewish Zionist. OR have the jews decided they're now Christian - or is it in response to the Muslims?

I am a typical Christian Zionist.  The propaganda and targeted hate you see in this thread is nothing more than another shot at Israel with a deflection from the underlying hatred.  The ENTIRETY of what makes a Christian believe in the right of the descendants of Jacob (Israel) to possess the land in Palestine and quite a bit MORE of the surrounding territory is this:  

“Get out of your country,
From your family
And from your father’s house,
To a land that I will show you.
² I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing.
³ I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

It really is that simple.  There are no underlying machinations and those Christians who believe this are not attempting to be Jewish NOR are they interested in trying to ignore wrongdoing by the secular government in Israel.  It is purely an expression of acknowledging the sovereignty of God.  

Those who study this and turn it into some sort of nefarious activity trying to undermine the U.S. government are doing so for reasons of their own and they have nothing whatever to do with reality.  I AM A CHRISTIAN ZIONIST.  You can take my word for it or you can dig into the propaganda and get caught up into conspiracy theories.  Your choice.   As you can see, it becomes quite an obsession for those looking for a reason to justify their hate or political leanings.  There's nothing righteous or enlightened about them.  It's just twisted pride, IMO. 

[Buzz_Light_Year]

22 minutes ago, and then said:

I am a typical Christian Zionist.  The propaganda and targeted hate you see in this thread is nothing more than another shot at Israel with a deflection from the underlying hatred.  The ENTIRETY of what makes a Christian believe in the right of the descendants of Jacob (Israel) to possess the land in Palestine and quite a bit MORE of the surrounding territory is this:  

“Get out of your country,
From your family
And from your father’s house,
To a land that I will show you.
² I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing.
³ I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

It really is that simple.  There are no underlying machinations and those Christians who believe this are not attempting to be Jewish NOR are they interested in trying to ignore wrongdoing by the secular government in Israel.  It is purely an expression of acknowledging the sovereignty of God.  

Those who study this and turn it into some sort of nefarious activity trying to undermine the U.S. government are doing so for reasons of their own and they have nothing whatever to do with reality.  I AM A CHRISTIAN ZIONIST.  You can take my word for it or you can dig into the propaganda and get caught up into conspiracy theories.  Your choice.   As you can see, it becomes quite an obsession for those looking for a reason to justify their hate or political leanings.  There's nothing righteous or enlightened about them.  It's just twisted pride, IMO. 

Every true Christian realizes that they are adopted Jews. Anti-Zionist is Anti-Semitism

This isn't the OP's first Christian Zionist rant and it won't be his last.