Will Due Posted December 5, 2020 #201 Share Posted December 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Next lifetime... Yes life ever after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted December 5, 2020 #202 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, jmccr8 said: Hi Will In many of the discussions that go on itis part of the forum are not about blaming anyone as some of us are just interested in how things develop and what caused change in someone's life. My mom was Catholic and my da Catholic with a Presbyterian stomach and neither of them talked about god or the church at home really they left it to the schools and churches to do the preaching so they never turned me to or away from god/religion the churches and schools was what made me see the hypocrisy. I don't have a problem with people having a personal faith but do if they are self-righteous dictators that try to legislate their beliefs on others as absolute. jmccr8 Same, I have no issue with god either for me, it is about how a person uses it. I am open to wisdom regardless of the path. But, BS is BS and I am gonna call it out, that is why I am in this section. Will opening his heart to god is a good thing, if he actually is doing it. It is on him to make it clear what he is doing. So far he is preaching. Edited December 5, 2020 by Sherapy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 5, 2020 #203 Share Posted December 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sherapy said: It is on him to make it clear what he is doing. Funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted December 5, 2020 #204 Share Posted December 5, 2020 To believe is to give up all pretense of intellectual acumen, and leave yourself at the mercy of the Universe. Belief is not a practical matter and has no need of books of facts. Like love, it is a discipline of the heart. One finds that existence isn't something experienced apart, but that one is an active and interactive participant. Belief is a fine and private place, separate and at the same time, cotemporanious with ordinary life. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted December 5, 2020 #205 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Will Do said: Funny Edited December 5, 2020 by Sherapy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted December 5, 2020 #206 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hammerclaw said: To believe is to give up all pretense of intellectual acumen, and leave yourself at the mercy of the Universe. Belief is not a practical matter and has no need of books of facts. Like love, it is a discipline of the heart. One finds that existence isn't something experienced apart, but that one is an active and interactive participant. Belief is a fine and private place, separate and at the same time, cotemporanious with ordinary life. Beautiful. Hey Will, this is a person who is clear, you might want to pay attention. Just my two cents, not gospel. Edited December 5, 2020 by Sherapy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted December 5, 2020 #207 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: To believe is to give up all pretense of intellectual acumen, and leave yourself at the mercy of the Universe. Belief is not a practical matter and has no need of books of facts. Like love, it is a discipline of the heart. One finds that existence isn't something experienced apart, but that one is an active and interactive participant. Belief is a fine and private place, separate and at the same time, cotemporanious with ordinary life. And, well said. On my path, I call this mindfulness, we are on the same journey, just a different path. Edited December 5, 2020 by Sherapy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 5, 2020 #208 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Beautiful. Hey Will, this is a person who is clear, you might want to pay attention. Just my two cents, not gospel. Are you preaching to me? Lol Edited December 5, 2020 by Will Do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted December 5, 2020 #209 Share Posted December 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Will Do said: Are you preaching to me? Lol “Dude where’s your car.” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 5, 2020 #210 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sherapy said: “Dude where’s your car.” "Desire and one brave stretch of faith." That's pretty clear right? Edited December 5, 2020 by Will Do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted December 5, 2020 #211 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Will Do said: "Desire and one brave stretch of faith." That's pretty clear right? Nope, but you are funny. I do like your humor. Edited December 5, 2020 by Sherapy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 5, 2020 #212 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) belief...everyone has them! My desire is to understand Why we have them. Were they generated by our parents or those who raised us? Were they generated from others? I know where my birth beliefs originated. I also know there are many out there who want others to believe as they do. For me, it is what makes sense in my brain...not to follow any one else...but to truly understand what makes sense to me. The one thing that has been a fundamental to me is the physical nature of the universe...i.e. physics. Physics doesn't lie. Belief is irrelevant with regards to truth. Edited December 5, 2020 by joc 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 6, 2020 #213 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, joc said: belief...everyone has them! My desire is to understand Why we have them. Were they generated by our parents or those who raised us? Were they generated from others? I know where my birth beliefs originated. I also know there are many out there who want others to believe as they do. For me, it is what makes sense in my brain...not to follow any one else...but to truly understand what makes sense to me. The one thing that has been a fundamental to me is the physical nature of the universe...i.e. physics. Physics doesn't lie. Belief is irrelevant with regards to truth. Joc has me on ignore. Can you believe it? Lol It's weird. I believe if people would just stop arguing and take a breather they'd probably find out that we all sort of believe the same thing. Like joc said "Belief is irrelevant with regards to truth." Of course it is. Belief is always gonna be irrelevant. Here's the solution to this problem as far as I'm concerned. If I may say so myself. Don't put faith in what is supposed to be believed but instead put it in "what makes sense" that's also the truth. That's clear to me lol. And it's simple. Like it should be. Not sure what's the truth? Don't worry about it. If you find out later you where wrong about truth, just adjust to it when it's found. What could be wrong to commit to knowing the truth? Even if you don't know yet what the truth is? If you keep looking for it like you would if it was a quarter, eventually, if you don't stop, you'll find it. Right? Edited December 6, 2020 by Will Do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted December 6, 2020 #214 Share Posted December 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Will Do said: Instead of allowing yourself to be distracted by someone else's problems why cope with it when you can simply let it go and make your own way? Coping and healing is negative when it holds back progress. Sometimes when I thought I had something that needed to be healed it turned out instead that something just needed to be born. Something old and bad just needed to be displaced by something new and good. Will, I am gonna try and ask this with tact... Does your coping system involve pretending you are deaf, dumb, and blind? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted December 6, 2020 #215 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Will Do said: Joc has me on ignore. Can you believe it? Lol It's weird. I believe if people would just stop arguing and take a breather they'd probably find out that we all sort of believe the same thing. Like joc said "Belief is irrelevant with regards to truth." Of course it is. Belief is always gonna be irrelevant. Here's the solution to this problem as far as I'm concerned. If I may say so myself. Don't put faith in what is supposed to be believed but instead put it in "what makes sense" that's also the truth. That's clear to me lol. And it's simple. Like it should be. Not sure what's the truth? Don't worry about it. If you find out later you where wrong about truth, just adjust to it when it's found. What could be wrong to commit to knowing the truth? Even if you don't know yet what the truth is? If you keep looking for it like you would if it was a quarter, eventually, if you don't stop, you'll find it. Right? Will, you are the only one arguing here. Take out everyone else, insert your name in your post, and read your post to yourself. It would really help you. I mean this sincerely. Edited December 6, 2020 by Sherapy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 6, 2020 #216 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Will, I am gonna try and ask this with tact... Does your coping system involve pretending you are deaf, dumb, and blind? That's not very nice. Edited December 6, 2020 by Will Do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 6, 2020 #217 Share Posted December 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Will, you are the only one arguing here. Take out everyone else, insert your name in your post, and read your post to yourself. It would really help you. I mean this sincerely. There's nothing to be afraid of Sheri. There is no boogeyman lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted December 6, 2020 #218 Share Posted December 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Will Do said: That's not very nice. It’s just a question. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted December 6, 2020 #219 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Will Do said: There's nothing to be afraid of Sheri. There is no boogeyman lol. Will, again this about you, hun. Many of us have been you. How can we help? Edited December 6, 2020 by Sherapy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 6, 2020 #220 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Many of us have been you. Sorry no. No you haven't lol. I have enough trouble being me. 2 minutes ago, Sherapy said: How can we help? PM me and I'll give you my account number so you can send me money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 6, 2020 #221 Share Posted December 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Will, again this about you, hun. See what I mean, you're arguing again lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted December 6, 2020 #222 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Will Do said: Sorry no. No you haven't lol. I have enough trouble being me. PM me and I'll give you my account number so you can send me money. What are you needing not wanting to do vent, fight, get validated, or get real or connect? Edited December 6, 2020 by Sherapy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted December 6, 2020 #223 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sherapy said: What are you needing not wanting to do vent, fight, get validated, or get real or connect? Looks like avoidance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 6, 2020 #224 Share Posted December 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Looks like avoidance. Now that's a Freudian slip if I've ever heard one Xeno lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted December 6, 2020 #225 Share Posted December 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Will Do said: Now that's a Freudian slip if I've ever heard one Xeno lol. Quit trying to sound smart Will, you're not very good at it. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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