Massive Voter Fraud

[Duke Wellington]

Watch again: Giuliani attends election hearing in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania - YouTube

The funniest moments for me with the Pennsylvania election fraud were:

20,000 postal votes being returned filled in on the day they were sent out.

Loads of postal votes received the day before they were sent out.

And a total of 2.2 million votes were counted. Yet the amount of people who turned up to vote at a polling station combined with the number of postal ballots received is about a million less.

So, so, corrupt.

[Tatetopa]

4 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

So, so, corrupt.

So, so fake.  It is reality TV, not reality.    Have you lost the ability to discern the difference between the two?

[godnodog]

Can he backup all the statements with evidences?

Cause all he´s done so far is prove that he cannot prove it.

[+and-then]

1 minute ago, Tatetopa said:

So, so fake.  It is reality TV, not reality.    Have you lost the ability to discern the difference between the two?

Do you have a source that disproves the claims?  There are MANY such claims coming from a very diverse group of witnesses in those states.  And if common sense doesn't impress you, perhaps you should just consider the hell-raising you people did for 4 years with NO EVIDENCE because you believed the Media lies.  If if tens of millions of people believe he's being cheated, this country has a problem...ALL of us, have a problem.

[+and-then]

2 minutes ago, godnodog said:

Can he backup all the statements with evidences?

Cause all he´s done so far is prove that he cannot prove it.

Yeah.  We went through 4 years of this kind of bull**** and no evidence EVER APPEARED.  They can take their double standard and shove it.

[godnodog]

2 minutes ago, and then said:

Do you have a source that disproves the claims?  There are MANY such claims coming from a very diverse group of witnesses in those states.  And if common sense doesn't impress you, perhaps you should just consider the hell-raising you people did for 4 years with NO EVIDENCE because you believed the Media lies.  If if tens of millions of people believe he's being cheated, this country has a problem...ALL of us, have a problem.

Did these witnesses gave enough info to the investigators to prove fraud? I really am asking, cause all I´ve read about this is that "No they did not provided with enough info or credible info or evidence"
Also these witnesses could be very well been "counter" by witnesses that claim by affidavit that nothing happened, that´s why evidences are needed and nono so far has come up.

[HSlim]

1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said:

Watch again: Giuliani attends election hearing in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania - YouTube

The funniest moments for me with the Pennsylvania election fraud were:

20,000 postal votes being returned filled in on the day they were sent out.

Loads of postal votes received the day before they were sent out.

And a total of 2.2 million votes were counted. Yet the amount of people who turned up to vote at a polling station combined with the number of postal ballots received is about a million less.

So, so, corrupt.

Blah blah blah.  No evidence beyond the blabbering of a "man" who barely passed a cognitive test and his attorney who held a press conference between a funeral home and a dildo store. 

[HSlim]

1 hour ago, and then said:

Do you have a source that disproves the claims?  There are MANY such claims coming from a very diverse group of witnesses in those states.  And if common sense doesn't impress you, perhaps you should just consider the hell-raising you people did for 4 years with NO EVIDENCE because you believed the Media lies.  If if tens of millions of people believe he's being cheated, this country has a problem...ALL of us, have a problem.

There's likely all sorts of indictments waiting on Trump after he leaves office.  Don't be upset because you failed to understand the Mueller report.   And you're right.... you DO have a problem.  You've gone into the grief process and can't seem to find your way out of the denial stage. 

[acute]

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Massive Voter Fraud

Massive absence of Voter Fraud.

[Duke Wellington]

14 minutes ago, HSlim said:

Blah blah blah.  No evidence beyond the blabbering of a "man" who barely passed a cognitive test and his attorney who held a press conference between a funeral home and a dildo store. 

It was held in the carpark of a warehouse.

[moonman]

Boy, we sure needed ANOTHER thread about this garbage. Great job clogging the forum with even more unnecessary BS.

Edited December 1, 2020 by moonman

[HSlim]

1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said:

It was held in the carpark of a warehouse.

It was held in the parking lot of Four Seasons Landscaping which sits between a morgue and an adult bookstore.  These are facts, whether or not you like them. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by HSlim

[RAyMO]

well well well Barr says no evidence of fraud  Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome (apnews.com)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

 

Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said.

He said people were confusing the use of the federal criminal justice system with allegations that should be made in civil lawsuits. He said such a remedy for those complaints would be a top-down audit conducted by state or local officials, not the U.S. Justice Department.

“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all, and people don’t like something they want the Department of Justice to come in and ‘investigate,’” Barr said.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. They are not systemic allegations and. And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”

Edited December 1, 2020 by RAyMO

[RAyMO]

But clearly this ^^^^ just means Barr is in on the con too. 

[HSlim]

1 hour ago, RAyMO said:

well well well Barr says no evidence of fraud  Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome (apnews.com)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

 

Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said.

He said people were confusing the use of the federal criminal justice system with allegations that should be made in civil lawsuits. He said such a remedy for those complaints would be a top-down audit conducted by state or local officials, not the U.S. Justice Department.

“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all, and people don’t like something they want the Department of Justice to come in and ‘investigate,’” Barr said.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. They are not systemic allegations and. And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”

Exactly.  When Trump's lapdog says it's over, you'd think the Trump supporters might finally get it.  But nope, they're still lining up to fill their cups with koolaid.  I never thought that idiocy might be contagious until I watched and heard Trump fans over the last 4 years.  

Edited December 1, 2020 by HSlim

[+and-then]

53 minutes ago, godnodog said:

Did these witnesses gave enough info to the investigators to prove fraud? I really am asking, cause all I´ve read about this is that "No they did not provided with enough info or credible info or evidence"
Also these witnesses could be very well been "counter" by witnesses that claim by affidavit that nothing happened, that´s why evidences are needed and nono so far has come up.

The evidence will be presented in a court of law.  It isn't going to be dribbled out, piecemeal so that an adversarial media can propagandize against it.  Have you done any research into the claims of wrongdoing?  Just a few of the sworn statements - some machines were connected to the internet.  In one state 1.5 million voters were registered and eligible but an additional 700 thousand votes were cast.  The security and chain of custody that was in place to prove the ballots were legitimate were regularly ignored and observers weren't allowed to see the ballots while they were still in their cover envelopes.  There are many more instances of how this steal was executed.  Those Americans who are ignoring the data and the sworn statements are going to find that in the long term, they've been complicit with destroying faith in our most fundamental bond.  

If they truly believe the election was secure and no significant fraud occurred then they should be happy to have investigations that PROVE they are correct.  Instead, we are seeing them rush to reset/erase data from servers in GA.  In Fulton County, where the city of Atlanta sits.  Legally, since those votes were in question, once the ability to use forensics has been denied, those votes should be thrown out as untrustworthy.  

This steal is not going to be allowed to stand.

[HSlim]

1 hour ago, and then said:

The evidence will be presented in a court of law.  It isn't going to be dribbled out, piecemeal so that an adversarial media can propagandize against it.  Have you done any research into the claims of wrongdoing?  Just a few of the sworn statements - some machines were connected to the internet.  In one state 1.5 million voters were registered and eligible but an additional 700 thousand votes were cast.  The security and chain of custody that was in place to prove the ballots were legitimate were regularly ignored and observers weren't allowed to see the ballots while they were still in their cover envelopes.  There are many more instances of how this steal was executed.  Those Americans who are ignoring the data and the sworn statements are going to find that in the long term, they've been complicit with destroying faith in our most fundamental bond.  

If they truly believe the election was secure and no significant fraud occurred then they should be happy to have investigations that PROVE they are correct.  Instead, we are seeing them rush to reset/erase data from servers in GA.  In Fulton County, where the city of Atlanta sits.  Legally, since those votes were in question, once the ability to use forensics has been denied, those votes should be thrown out as untrustworthy.  

This steal is not going to be allowed to stand.

....You mean like the 31+ lawsuits that have already been dismissed due to lack of evidence?  Sit down and take your L like an adult. 

[RAyMO]

1 minute ago, and then said:

The evidence will be presented in a court of law.

you've had more than 40 court cases - reading what Barr says your barking up the wrong tree - at best, best you got civil lawsuits 

[HSlim]

1 hour ago, and then said:

The evidence will be presented in a court of law.  It isn't going to be dribbled out, piecemeal so that an adversarial media can propagandize against it.  Have you done any research into the claims of wrongdoing?  Just a few of the sworn statements - some machines were connected to the internet.  In one state 1.5 million voters were registered and eligible but an additional 700 thousand votes were cast.  The security and chain of custody that was in place to prove the ballots were legitimate were regularly ignored and observers weren't allowed to see the ballots while they were still in their cover envelopes.  There are many more instances of how this steal was executed.  Those Americans who are ignoring the data and the sworn statements are going to find that in the long term, they've been complicit with destroying faith in our most fundamental bond.  

If they truly believe the election was secure and no significant fraud occurred then they should be happy to have investigations that PROVE they are correct.  Instead, we are seeing them rush to reset/erase data from servers in GA.  In Fulton County, where the city of Atlanta sits.  Legally, since those votes were in question, once the ability to use forensics has been denied, those votes should be thrown out as untrustworthy.  

This steal is not going to be allowed to stand.

Funny isn't it, that Brad Raffesberger (a Republican and Trump voter) has flat out stated that Trump likely would have won Georgia if he didn't suppress his own vote by making people believe that mail in ballots (like we've used for MULTIPLE elections) weren't legal?   

 

[RavenHawk]

1 hour ago, godnodog said:

Did these witnesses gave enough info to the investigators to prove fraud? I really am asking, cause all I´ve read about this is that "No they did not provided with enough info or credible info or evidence"

Their affidavit is the evidence.  But this isn't as much about any individual eyewitness as it is about the collective.  So many have come forward.  The statistics supports their claims.

1 hour ago, godnodog said:

Also these witnesses could be very well been "counter" by witnesses that claim by affidavit that nothing happened, that´s why evidences are needed and nono so far has come up.

That is true, but reason and logic would win out.  It doesn't matter how many can testify that fraud did not occur.  All it takes is one to claim fraud to put into question the system.  And in this case there are more than statistically needed to show that something is indeed fishy and needs a thorough investigation.  The Left is so fixated that Trump won't move out of the Whitehouse.  Come 20 Jan, you don't have to worry about it.  If this is being investigated beyond 20 Jan, then Trump can't move out and Bidet can't move in (neither are certified because of the investigation).  The rightful power will go to the Speaker of the House until the investigation is completed.

[RAyMO]

6 minutes ago, HSlim said:

Funny isn't it, that Brad Raffesberger (a Republican and Trump voter) has flat out stated that Trump likely would have won Georgia if he didn't suppress his own vote by making people believe that mail in ballots (like we've used for MULTIPLE elections) weren't legal?   

 

talking of trump fans here Ducey from Arizona responding to allegations of fraud in Arizona:

In a nine-tweet thread on Twitter, the Arizona governor laid out -- in clear terms -- Arizona's election laws, asserted that those rules were followed and affirmed his faith in the result. (Biden won the state by more than 10,000 votes.)

Here's the key bit:

"In Arizona, we have some of the strongest election laws in the country, laws that prioritize accountability and clearly lay out procedures for conducting, canvassing, and even contesting the results of an election. We've got ID at the polls. We review EVERY signature (every single one) on early ballots — by hand — unlike other states that use computers. Prohibitions on ballot harvesting. Bipartisan poll observers. Clear deadlines, including no ballots allowed after Election Day."

Politely telling Trump - no fraud in Arizona.

[spartan max2]

1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said:

Watch again: Giuliani attends election hearing in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania - YouTube

The funniest moments for me with the Pennsylvania election fraud were:

20,000 postal votes being returned filled in on the day they were sent out.

Loads of postal votes received the day before they were sent out.

And a total of 2.2 million votes were counted. Yet the amount of people who turned up to vote at a polling station combined with the number of postal ballots received is about a million less.

So, so, corrupt.

You need to add the word Allegedly to the end of each of your sentences. 

[RAyMO]

3 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Their affidavit is the evidence.  But this isn't as much about any individual eyewitness as it is about the collective.  So many have come forward.  The statistics supports their claims.

That is true, but reason and logic would win out.  It doesn't matter how many can testify that fraud did not occur.  All it takes is one to claim fraud to put into question the system.  And in this case there are more than statistically needed to show that something is indeed fishy and needs a thorough investigation.  The Left is so fixated that Trump won't move out of the Whitehouse.  Come 20 Jan, you don't have to worry about it.  If this is being investigated beyond 20 Jan, then Trump can't move out and Bidet can't move in (neither are certified because of the investigation).  The rightful power will go to the Speaker of the House until the investigation is completed.

its over Ravenhawk - its going no where, not even going to make it to the Supreme Court 

As Barr says no evidence of systemic fraud - all else if it exists is local twaddle. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by RAyMO

[spartan max2]

In so many court cases, Trump's people have been point blank asked by the judges if they have proof of voter fraud or if they even trying to claim voter fraud. And they have said no.

Trump is misleading you. What he says to the judges if not what he is saying to you.

[godnodog]

2 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Their affidavit is the evidence.  But this isn't as much about any individual eyewitness as it is about the collective.  So many have come forward.  The statistics supports their claims.

That is true, but reason and logic would win out.  It doesn't matter how many can testify that fraud did not occur.  All it takes is one to claim fraud to put into question the system.  And in this case there are more than statistically needed to show that something is indeed fishy and needs a thorough investigation.  The Left is so fixated that Trump won't move out of the Whitehouse.  Come 20 Jan, you don't have to worry about it.  If this is being investigated beyond 20 Jan, then Trump can't move out and Bidet can't move in (neither are certified because of the investigation).  The rightful power will go to the Speaker of the House until the investigation is completed.

really? then how come everything Trump´s claim have consistently failed in courts? 
Why has not a single claim been validated by the courts in a serious manner? 

Why every international observer not reported anything? Why have they stated it was fair and transparent? Why have election (GOP) officials not reported anything? I am not trolling here or dismissing here, but reality (or Djisas) seems to be kicking Trump´s ass.
To be honest I cant wait for Jan20th to see what happens.