spartan max2 Posted December 1, 2020 #51 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bee said: If they truly believe the election was secure and no significant fraud occurred then they should be happy to have investigations that PROVE they are correct. Instead, we are seeing them rush to reset/erase data from servers in GA. In Fulton County, where the city of Atlanta sits. Legally, since those votes were in question, once the ability to use forensics has been denied, those votes should be thrown out as untrustworthy. This steal is not going to be allowed to stand. Good thing Georgia already did a recount by hand. Edited December 1, 2020 by spartan max2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted December 1, 2020 #52 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, spartan max2 said: Could thing Georgia already did a recount by hand. It was 'andthen' that said that in the quote... but I will respond... As has been said before... a recount is a pointless exercise if it means just recounting fraudulent ballots... audits are needed to weed out the fraudulent ballots... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted December 1, 2020 #53 Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, bee said: It was 'andthen' that said that in the quote... but I will respond... As has been said before... a recount is a pointless exercise if it means just recounting fraudulent ballots... audits are needed to weed out the fraudulent ballots... Sorry I was quoting it from your post, I was under the delusion it would still credit him with the quote lol. But my point is that his quote is about the voting machines. A hand count would not be effected by the voting machines. So are you guys saying that both fake physical ballots and a rigged voting machine? I feel like you would just need to do one. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAyMO Posted December 1, 2020 #54 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, RavenHawk said: That doesn’t mean much. What is interesting is that Barr went silent right before the election and Durham has disappeared. What did they discover? Who silenced them? I sense that there is corruption here too. oh he mentioned durham on the bright side he made him special counsel so he can continue post Trump, on the not so bright side he states they've narrowed the investigation to FBI staff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted December 1, 2020 #55 Share Posted December 1, 2020 So, this Massive Voter Fraud is something that we are seeing the the conservative media? Because I am not seeing it in the court records or final state electoral counts. Just asking because I was told not to trust media because they lie... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSlim Posted December 1, 2020 #56 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said: Sure, they are ignoring how state court judgements can be appealed all the way to the SC. A SC Trump wisely packed with Republican Judges knowing what corruption was coming. Yeah. From him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAyMO Posted December 1, 2020 #57 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said: Sure, they are ignoring how state court judgements can be appealed all the way to the SC. A SC Trump wisely packed with Republican Judges knowing what corruption was coming. as has been pointed out there is not an automatic right of appeal to the SC. Trump might get a case there, might not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted December 1, 2020 #58 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: Sorry I was quoting it from your post, I was under the delusion it would still credit him with the quote lol. But my point is that his quote is about the voting machines. A hand count would not be effected by the voting machines. So are you guys saying that both fake physical ballots and a rigged voting machine? I feel like you would just need to do one. According to the Voter Integrity Project at minimum a little over 20,000 mail in ballots were cast that should not of been counted in Georgia. The reason why these ballots shouldn't of been counted was either people moved out of the state before the election or they put an illegitimate address as the residency address, like a mall, post office, shipping center, commercial building, ect. A hand count would still count those ballots even though threw minor investigative work would show they are illegitimate. If you think the voter integrity project is reliable or not would be up to you to decide. Edited December 1, 2020 by DarkHunter 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted December 1, 2020 #59 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Tatetopa said: Excellent, lets try that. It would be refreshing but the Left never will. Basic math, a million times zero is still zero. Evidence is true of false, it doesn't add incrementally. Who says it’s zero? The truth is in the fact that there are “a million” instances (whatever the actual number). If it were just 2 or three, then that goes to statistical error but when you have a million, something is up. OR If a billion people submit heart felt testimony that socialism, communism, and Chinese state run capitalism are ideal ways for people to live, will you be convinced by sheer numbers and statistics that you have been wrong all this time? Show me such a population and I will show you a subjugated people. They do not know what freedom really is. It isn’t something granted by the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSlim Posted December 1, 2020 #60 Share Posted December 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, bee said: bolded.... good point.... if they could put the whole Election Rigging Matter to bed by being open and cooperative then you would think they would... IF Y'all understand that it's not on the accused to provide evidence or investigations....right? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted December 1, 2020 #61 Share Posted December 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: Sorry I was quoting it from your post, I was under the delusion it would still credit him with the quote lol. yeah I thought that's what happened... 9 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: But my point is that his quote is about the voting machines. A hand count would not be effected by the voting machines. So are you guys saying that both fake physical ballots and a rigged voting machine? I feel like you would just need to do one. Faked physical ballots AND rigged voting machines .......yes..... and any other way possible to fraudulently get the tally up like sticking the USB card voter tally thingy in multiple times and maybe just hacking into the Tally machines in real time... to mention a couple of possible things... remember what Biden said... yes I know that they say he 'misspoke' and what he said was taken out of context .... https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/viral-posts-take-biden-quote-on-voter-fraud-out-of-context/ but even in the full quote in context it sounds strange... Sidney Powell said (somewhere) it was an honest 'dementia' moment - because sometimes people with dementia just come out and say stuff without being cautious.... (my words not hers but that was the gist of what she said....) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted December 1, 2020 #62 Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, RavenHawk said: Show me such a population and I will show you a subjugated people. They do not know what freedom really is. It isn’t something granted by the government. Well there you go and I agree. A thousand instances that are not validated are hearsay or opinions. One valid piece of evidence in court is worth more than those. I am not trying to be contrary, L am playing by the rules of engineering, logic, and justice. To be used, statements have to be validated as factual. I am OK with evidence showing fraud, I will accept that. Whether the media supports it or critcizes it is inconsequential. It is what the judges say that matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted December 1, 2020 #63 Share Posted December 1, 2020 50 minutes ago, bee said: It was 'andthen' that said that in the quote... but I will respond... As has been said before... a recount is a pointless exercise if it means just recounting fraudulent ballots... audits are needed to weed out the fraudulent ballots... Okay, what shape will this audit take? What will be the rubric for disqualification? What will be the timescale for this audit? Who is leading the government if the audit takes us past the 20th of January? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted December 1, 2020 #64 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I'd really like to know of there will be consequences for Trump. These cases are being laughed at. Conspiracy theorist nutcases are lapping it up. Death threats to voting employees, disruption on a national scale, undermining of the American legal system. It's getting close. We are almost at the 14th, January is closing in. Trumps games are showing just how unfit for the position he stole he is. Is Trump going to be held accountable for the massive debacle he has caused? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAyMO Posted December 1, 2020 #65 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, bee said: audits are needed to weed out the fraudulent ballots... audits have been taking place place bee "Georgia's historic first statewide audit reaffirmed that the state's new secure paper ballot voting system accurately counted and reported results," "The largest counties in the state including Milwaukee, Dane and Waukesha are still in the audit process, but more than 50 other counties have finished their canvasses" - these have since been concluded (Wisconsin) "Michigan’s election audits will commence after the general election is certified by the Board of State Canvassers. This is in accordance with Michigan law, which does not allow access to ballots and other materials critical to conducting an audit until after certification occurs." In fact in all states I read about in a quick google search audits are mandatory. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted December 1, 2020 #66 Share Posted December 1, 2020 57 minutes ago, Gromdor said: So, this Massive Voter Fraud is something that we are seeing the the conservative media? Because I am not seeing it in the court records or final state electoral counts. Just asking because I was told not to trust media because they lie... Yeah but the Deep State and The Swamp lie. Although in this case I think "heresy" is more apt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted December 1, 2020 #67 Share Posted December 1, 2020 35 minutes ago, bee said: yeah I thought that's what happened... Faked physical ballots AND rigged voting machines .......yes..... and any other way possible to fraudulently get the tally up like sticking the USB card voter tally thingy in multiple times and maybe just hacking into the Tally machines in real time... to mention a couple of possible things... remember what Biden said... yes I know that they say he 'misspoke' and what he said was taken out of context .... https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/viral-posts-take-biden-quote-on-voter-fraud-out-of-context/ but even in the full quote in context it sounds strange... Sidney Powell said (somewhere) it was an honest 'dementia' moment - because sometimes people with dementia just come out and say stuff without being cautious.... (my words not hers but that was the gist of what she said....) It really does not sound strange. What does a "bomb squad" do? What does a "drug squad" do? What does a "vice squad" do? What does a "homicide squad" do? What does a "money laundering" department do? What does a "fraud squad" do? Metonymy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted December 1, 2020 #68 Share Posted December 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, psyche101 said: I'd really like to know of there will be consequences for Trump. These cases are being laughed at. Conspiracy theorist nutcases are lapping it up. Death threats to voting employees, disruption on a national scale, undermining of the American legal system. It's getting close. We are almost at the 14th, January is closing in. Trumps games are showing just how unfit for the position he stole he is. Is Trump going to be held accountable for the massive debacle he has caused? We'll just see how deep his (charities) pockets are. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted December 1, 2020 #69 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Gromdor said: So, this Massive Voter Fraud is something that we are seeing the the conservative media? This question will go unnoticed, but it shouldn't. The PA lawsuits are public record. Anyone can read them. There is NOT A SINGLE MENTION of fraud. Cheating. Dead people voting. The only time Rudy mentions fraud is in his "hearings" that aren't really hearings at all, so I don't even know why he calls them that. Not a single Trump lawsuit claimed fraud. Every lawsuit filed questioned the way people were allowed to vote. Basically, they are saying they want legitimate votes thrown out because they don't like the way they were cast. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted December 2, 2020 #70 Share Posted December 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Okay, what shape will this audit take? What will be the rubric for disqualification? What will be the timescale for this audit? Who is leading the government if the audit takes us past the 20th of January? ummmm do you seriously expect me to be able to answer those questions about the details...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted December 2, 2020 #71 Share Posted December 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, RAyMO said: audits have been taking place place bee ok.... and like I said - 'audits are needed to weed out fraudulent ballots'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted December 2, 2020 #72 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: 4 hours ago, HSlim said: Blah blah blah. No evidence beyond the blabbering of a "man" who barely passed a cognitive test and his attorney who held a press conference between a funeral home and a dildo store. Wrong. Parking lot of a landscaping business, between a funeral parlor, and a sex shop. You dum? Need pics? I can produce a pic if you like. There's thousands on the net of the press conference. Vids too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted December 2, 2020 #73 Share Posted December 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: It really does not sound strange. What does a "bomb squad" do? What does a "drug squad" do? What does a "vice squad" do? What does a "homicide squad" do? What does a "money laundering" department do? What does a "fraud squad" do? Metonymy ok I'll play... Biden used the word 'organization' so What does a "bomb organization" do? What does a "drug organization" do? What does a "vice organization" do? What does a "homicide organization" do? What does a "money laundering" organizationdo? What does a "fraud organization" do? Maybe Joe had a 'senior moment' at exactly the wrong time and the truth slipped out.... But that's what happens with a Freudian Slip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted December 2, 2020 #74 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 hours ago, DarkHunter said: Just throwing out in Pennsylvania for the 2020 election 2,629,672 mail in ballots were cast and only 7,411 ballots rejected. In 2018 mail in ballots was around 229,875 mail in ballots cast with 8,714 ballots rejected. The drastic reduction in vote rejection seems to be from laxed mail in ballot requirements which will probably go before the Supreme Court and more then likely in this case they would rule in favor of Trump as Bush v Gore already settled this matter. Basically the Supreme Court ruled that all ballots from a state have to be treated the same, since in person voting required a signature check while mail in ballots didnt that is going to cause a bit of a problem. If the rate of rejected ballots was consistent in PA then close to 100,000 ballots would of been rejected. Another Trumpet trying to be reasonable, and failing. Did you not read Barr's statement? It's over. The overweight lady with the horn helmet just sang Trump's death dirge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted December 2, 2020 #75 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, bee said: ok I'll play... Biden used the word 'organization' so What does a "bomb organization" do? What does a "drug organization" do? What does a "vice organization" do? What does a "homicide organization" do? What does a "money laundering" organizationdo? What does a "fraud organization" do? Maybe Joe had a 'senior moment' at exactly the wrong time and the truth slipped out.... But that's what happens with a Freudian Slip... Maybe, it really was about the https://iwillvote.com/ site. After all, there were more votes than ever; and, the lowest invalid vote count. It's almost as if learning, education and valid information may have merit. Edited December 2, 2020 by Golden Duck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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