Coup Attempt

[preacherman76]

2 hours ago, ChrLzs said:

I'd say it was more like useless to point it out, unless you are specific.  How much is being spent/wasted?  On what exactly?

A complete lack of specifics usually indicates shallow thinking, and an unwillingness to actually look at specifics.  It's all about desperately finding stuff to whine about.

Useless indeed, but certainly not selfish. 

We are talking about 2 TRILLION dollars. On top of the TRILLION dollars still waiting to be spent from the last relief bill. Tell us all how desperate we were to whine about it when this crap collapse the damn worlds economy. By any and every historic measure this house of cards is coming down. And they actually have people defending it. No wonder they call you useful idiots.    

[psyche101]

13 hours ago, Myles said:

The left has shown us that it is OK to make fun of the president, his wife and his kids.   It was done for 4 years.

That's not true at all. You're referring to people at the extremes. Extreme right people are just as bad if not worse than the extreme left. 

What do you find appealing about repeating deplorable behaviour yourself? It just makes you look bad. All you have shown is you can sink to that level and beyond. 

13 hours ago, Myles said:

  I didn't see you complain about people making fun of Melania Trump.  Calling her a ***** and many other names. 

Please link to a thread where that has been the case. 

I'm not sure what profanity was covered up there, but it's pretty darn obvious that Melania is a trophy wife. If that's offensive, so be it. 

13 hours ago, Myles said:

Now you are offended.   Ha ha.   Nice.

Look at your response. Nice? You're pleased that you think you have offended someone? 

I'm not sure that is the correct term. Ive mostly commented on the new depths you have sunk to rather than showing offence. I think you're a perfect example of how Trump influenced America badly and why he should never return to politics. There's no justification for your hate. 

[psyche101]

10 hours ago, DieChecker said:

I'd have to disagree there. At my work we're supposed to have 7 full time people in my area. When some left, management was like, goodbye to rubbish. But no one came to replace them. Now there's two of us on shift. With some Temps. Dreadful. Its not like they're not offering the standard industry wage, or being to fussy on applicants. No one is applying.

No help isn't always easy to find.

How's that work? Are you sure management is actually looking? 

Quite different here. Interviews we hold tend to attract 60 to 100 applicants for just about any position. I know someone who went for a Harvey Norman sales position. 350 people applied for it. Last place I worked we put one ad on LinkedIn and got 78 applicants. Driving to work Tuesday morning I passed 2 makeshift shades on the side of the road with signs for people looking for work. 

It's easy here. What's the unemployment rate in your general area? Why is it hard to find people? 

[Setton]

16 hours ago, DieChecker said:

I dislike that these huge project will be done, for my own good, and I have to pay for them even if I don't get anything from them

I dislike paying taxes for the local school even though I don't have kids.

Should I just be able to opt out?

[+DieChecker]

4 hours ago, Setton said:

I dislike paying taxes for the local school even though I don't have kids.

Should I just be able to opt out?

Ultimately, I'd say yes. But in reality, no, because people would use that excuse to not pay for roads, police, fire department...

There's many places that don't tax the citizens much. I advise people who care so much to move to one of those states.

[+DieChecker]

15 hours ago, psyche101 said:

How's that work? Are you sure management is actually looking? 

Quite different here. Interviews we hold tend to attract 60 to 100 applicants for just about any position. I know someone who went for a Harvey Norman sales position. 350 people applied for it. Last place I worked we put one ad on LinkedIn and got 78 applicants. Driving to work Tuesday morning I passed 2 makeshift shades on the side of the road with signs for people looking for work. 

It's easy here. What's the unemployment rate in your general area? Why is it hard to find people? 

I'm not sure, but my suspicion is that they Could hire people, but chose Not To. Since four are doing the work of seven, why hire more? Till someone quits due to being overworked, then all of a sudden its an emergency.

We put out a hiring ad for someone to monitor machines from a office like room, and so far as I know it's been over a year.

[Setton]

43 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Ultimately, I'd say yes. But in reality, no, because people would use that excuse to not pay for roads, police, fire department...

There's many places that don't tax the citizens much. I advise people who care so much to move to one of those states.

Then why don't you move to one where you won't have to pay for these projects?

[+DieChecker]

16 minutes ago, Setton said:

Then why don't you move to one where you won't have to pay for these projects?

Because they're... uggghhh... NATIONAL. Though it is true many states will sue the federal government to prevent implementation. 

As it is... I'm going to Florida in about two weeks, scouting out if it will be a more Conservative/Christian place to raise kids then the homeless hugging, we-hate-white-people (which is 90% white), pacific northwest. 

I guess I could move to Canada, but they're more left then the current US. I could move to Mexico, but I'd have to deal with a even more inept government the Trump. 

It is hard to deal with all the self angst, and self hate, in this region.

Edited March 11, 2021 by DieChecker

[Gromdor]

34 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Because they're... uggghhh... NATIONAL. Though it is true many states will sue the federal government to prevent implementation. 

As it is... I'm going to Florida in about two weeks, scouting out if it will be a more Conservative/Christian place to raise kids then the homeless hugging, we-hate-white-people (which is 90% white), pacific northwest. 

I guess I could move to Canada, but they're more left then the current US. I could move to Mexico, but I'd have to deal with a even more inept government the Trump. 

It is hard to deal with all the self angst, and self hate, in this region.

Florida is definitely a different culture from the northwest.  The weather is nicer and the winds blow pollution off to the sea.  Plenty of sea/beach things to do   Hurricanes are annoying but it doesn't have the "gloomy" weather patterns of western Oregon or Washington.  I've got a condo down there.  Not sure if I want to live there full time though.

[Setton]

1 hour ago, DieChecker said:

Because they're... uggghhh... NATIONAL. 

And taxes to pay for schools aren't?

[griss47]

20 minutes ago, Setton said:

And taxes to pay for schools aren't?

Not in my area of the US.  The taxes I pay for schools goes to the school district that I live in.  I believe (not sure) it is like that across the US.  My wife and I both attended the school district we live in.  Our three kids attended that school district as well.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

7 hours ago, Setton said:

I dislike paying taxes for the local school even though I don't have kids.

Should I just be able to opt out?

That is actually part of my tax reform idea - you fill out your tax return as per normal, but at the end is either a tick box, to say “the government decides where my tax revenue goes” or you do a detailed breakdown of where you want it to go out of the areas tax directly funds. 

[Hyperionxvii]

3 minutes ago, President Wearer of Hats said:

That is actually part of my tax reform idea - you fill out your tax return as per normal, but at the end is either a tick box, to say “the government decides where my tax revenue goes” or you do a detailed breakdown of where you want it to go out of the areas tax directly funds. 

Still too complicated. I'm a fan of a flat tax system. No income taxes or property taxes. Instead, you pay a 15% sales tax on everything. This should satisfy the lefties (of course it will not, because they are incapable of being OK with anything), because the wealthier you are, the more you will buy, which guarantees the rich always pay the most taxes. No deductions, no tax forms, take the burden of this completely off individuals. 

[Setton]

27 minutes ago, griss47 said:

Not in my area of the US.  The taxes I pay for schools goes to the school district that I live in.  I believe (not sure) it is like that across the US.  My wife and I both attended the school district we live in.  Our three kids attended that school district as well.

That's not the question. The question is whether there are any states where you don't pay taxes for schools if you don't have children.

[Setton]

16 minutes ago, President Wearer of Hats said:

That is actually part of my tax reform idea - you fill out your tax return as per normal, but at the end is either a tick box, to say “the government decides where my tax revenue goes” or you do a detailed breakdown of where you want it to go out of the areas tax directly funds. 

Trouble then is you end up with no one funding things they don't realise are important until they're gone.

[Golden Duck]

28 minutes ago, President Wearer of Hats said:

That is actually part of my tax reform idea - you fill out your tax return as per normal, but at the end is either a tick box, to say “the government decides where my tax revenue goes” or you do a detailed breakdown of where you want it to go out of the areas tax directly funds. 

That's called voting.

[+DieChecker]

2 hours ago, Setton said:

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Because they're... uggghhh... NATIONAL. 

And taxes to pay for schools aren't?

The average is about 8% of funding for schools is federal. 

So. No. Its not mainly National.

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cma.asp

1 hour ago, Setton said:

That's not the question. The question is whether there are any states where you don't pay taxes for schools if you don't have children.

Thats not what you asked.

There are some states that have no state tax. There are also states with low property/local taxes. So, someone who wanted to reduce their losses could do that.

Edited March 11, 2021 by DieChecker

[+DieChecker]

1 hour ago, Hyperionxvii said:

Still too complicated. I'm a fan of a flat tax system. No income taxes or property taxes. Instead, you pay a 15% sales tax on everything. This should satisfy the lefties (of course it will not, because they are incapable of being OK with anything), because the wealthier you are, the more you will buy, which guarantees the rich always pay the most taxes. No deductions, no tax forms, take the burden of this completely off individuals. 

They'll never go for that. They'll say its racist. Because a higher percent of brown people are poor, and the poor spend 100% of their income. The rich and middle class don't HAVE to spend 100%... so its not fair. 

Because... racism.

Liberals... everything lately is racism. 

[psyche101]

7 hours ago, DieChecker said:

I'm not sure, but my suspicion is that they Could hire people, but chose Not To. Since four are doing the work of seven, why hire more? Till someone quits due to being overworked, then all of a sudden its an emergency.

We put out a hiring ad for someone to monitor machines from a office like room, and so far as I know it's been over a year.

That sounds very plausible. Have you had a look at the ad yourself to see what is being offered for the position? Renumeration might be an issue.

Or perhaps things are very different there. We have plenty of social differences, perhaps that's another one. It's not a problem here that's for sure. Logically it makes no sense. Again I refer to the food and roof bit. Most find that the highest priority. Or are your unemployed benefits too high? Is it financially beneficial to not work? 

I don't think a prestigious good paying job in government would site on the sidelines for over a year. 

[Tatetopa]

7 hours ago, President Wearer of Hats said:

That is actually part of my tax reform idea - you fill out your tax return as per normal, but at the end is either a tick box, to say “the government decides where my tax revenue goes” or you do a detailed breakdown of where you want it to go out of the areas tax directly funds. 

Ow good idea.  I would like to move that along to private insurance.  None of  my premium goes to other people's Viagra.

[+DieChecker]

3 hours ago, psyche101 said:

That sounds very plausible. Have you had a look at the ad yourself to see what is being offered for the position? Renumeration might be an issue.

Or perhaps things are very different there. We have plenty of social differences, perhaps that's another one. It's not a problem here that's for sure. Logically it makes no sense. Again I refer to the food and roof bit. Most find that the highest priority. Or are your unemployed benefits too high? Is it financially beneficial to not work? 

I don't think a prestigious good paying job in government would site on the sidelines for over a year. 

What I find interesting,  and I'm guilty of this too, is that people seem to get a job and hold onto it. In my case im making 110k a year though. So maybe people just are not willing to apply?

Which is strange, because even a new person will be making 60k+, and they can't find people. Minimum is a 2 yr degree, or equal relevant experience.

[psyche101]

12 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

What I find interesting,  and I'm guilty of this too, is that people seem to get a job and hold onto it. In my case im making 110k a year though. So maybe people just are not willing to apply?

Which is strange, because even a new person will be making 60k+, and they can't find people. Minimum is a 2 yr degree, or equal relevant experience.

What about advertising in nearby cities? 60k is nothing to sneeze at. If you were here you would be getting hundreds of applications.

I'm the same. In my career i don't move too often. I'd have thought seeing job security with existing employees would be a plus?

[+DieChecker]

22 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

What about advertising in nearby cities? 60k is nothing to sneeze at. If you were here you would be getting hundreds of applications.

I'm the same. In my career i don't move too often. I'd have thought seeing job security with existing employees would be a plus?

I'd have thought making 60k in an area where 35-40k is more common, would pull people out of the woodwork, but for some reason, not...

New people at work do often ask me, "Why are you still here?". And I say, "Do you know how much I make?". And they say no. And I say, thats right... 

Edited March 12, 2021 by DieChecker

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

8 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

That's called voting.

No, voting is quintennial nappy replacement. 

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

9 hours ago, Setton said:

Trouble then is you end up with no one funding things they don't realise are important until they're gone.

that’s where the money from ‘let the government decide’ factors in.