XenoFish Posted January 18, 2021 #101 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just to add something regarding mask. https://msphere.asm.org/content/5/5/e00637-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted January 19, 2021 #102 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, XenoFish said: Just to add something regarding mask. https://msphere.asm.org/content/5/5/e00637-20 OK, so I read the paper from that link. Before I respond, though... can you tell me where there may be some flaws within their study? Can you also elaborate on what your point was? “Just to add something” is vague. I am interested in what the intention was behind that citation. Edited January 19, 2021 by Nuclear Wessel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted January 19, 2021 #103 Share Posted January 19, 2021 8 hours ago, XenoFish said: https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/05/11/coronavirus-likely-will-infect-us-all-lockdown-delaying-inevitable-14779 It’s an opinion piece from a non-epidemiologist written at a time when the virus was still very much novel. I was thinking more of a peer-reviewed analysis/study, by epidemiologists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted January 19, 2021 #104 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, XenoFish said: I used to be just as afraid and paranoid as most of you. But I guess I gave up worrying. Now I can’t be certain of this, but my thoughts are that you never took the pandemic seriously to begin with. You’ve expressed scepticism on the vaccine and the pandemic since it began. Edited January 19, 2021 by Nuclear Wessel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 19, 2021 #105 Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: Now I can’t be certain of this, but my thoughts are that you never took the pandemic seriously to begin with. You’ve expressed scepticism on the vaccine and the pandemic since it began. Here I was thinking skepticism was a good thing. Apparently if I'm not towing the line like everyone else it's wrong. Sorry I don't blindly and stupidly accept what the media tells me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted January 19, 2021 #106 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: Here I was thinking skepticism was a good thing. Apparently if I'm not towing the line like everyone else it's wrong. Sorry I don't blindly and stupidly accept what the media tells me. It is but not when your scepticism runs the risk of putting the lives of others in danger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 19, 2021 #107 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, Nuclear Wessel said: It is but not when your scepticism runs the risk of putting the lives of others in danger. How am I putting others in danger? I'm not preaching anything. I'm not shaming others from wearing mask/not wearing mask. I still put on that damn face diaper whenever I have to go into a business. I still stay the hell away from others because I'm basically anti-social. I'm just not certain of the numbers and completely uncertain of this vaccine. At this point I'm not certain that I've / we've been told the whole truth or a half truth. So I'll just have to take my chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 19, 2021 #108 Share Posted January 19, 2021 9 hours ago, joc said: How long have you know Xenofish? Why would you be willing to bet against what someone just matter of factly told you? Never mind responding back. I won't see it. Just rhetorically wondering why you doubt what he said. Mate, we all know him. I'd back NW on this one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 19, 2021 #109 Share Posted January 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: It is but not when your scepticism runs the risk of putting the lives of others in danger. Even worse is mock skepticism. Gleaning the internet for fringe sites to quote outdated work and the opinions of failed losers who aren't good enough to be accepted by mainstream. It's not hard to find kooks on the internet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 19, 2021 #110 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, psyche101 said: Mate, we all know him. I'd back NW on this one. I stand with both NW and Psyche on this too. Your right, I would not take Xeno’s opinion as fact either. I listen to the medical profession. Edited January 19, 2021 by Sherapy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 19, 2021 #111 Share Posted January 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, Sherapy said: I stand with both NW and Psyche on this too. Your right, I would not take Xeno’s opinion as fact either. I listen to the medical profession. I'm allowed to have an opinion aren't I? Has that become another forum no-no? Don't think, don't have your own views, just conform to the consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 19, 2021 #112 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: I'm allowed to have an opinion aren't I? Has that become another forum no-no? Don't think, don't have your own views, just conform to the consensus. You are spreading propaganda. You did not even site a legitimate resource. No wonder you don’t like the mask and are afraid of the vaccine. Do yourself a favor and choose resources that are based in fact, there is nothing to argue about or defend. Just stand corrected. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 19, 2021 #113 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sherapy said: You are spreading propaganda. You did not even site a legitimate resource. No wonder you don’t like the mask and are afraid of the vaccine. Do yourself a favor and choose resources that are based in fact, there is nothing to argue about or defend. Just stand corrected. I'll do as I damn well please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted January 19, 2021 #114 Share Posted January 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, XenoFish said: I'll do as I damn well please. Those suggestions are only going to benefit you, man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 19, 2021 #115 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Nuclear Wessel said: Those suggestions are only going to benefit you, man. Do you honestly think I care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 19, 2021 #116 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Everyone is allowed an opinion. Just as everyone is allowed to point out how stupid and uniformed it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 19, 2021 #117 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, psyche101 said: Everyone is allowed an opinion. Just as everyone is allowed to point out how stupid and uniformed it is. So anyone who doesn't blindly agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted January 19, 2021 #118 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, XenoFish said: Do you honestly think I care? I'm not sure, but I hope so. Why wouldn't/shouldn't you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 19, 2021 #119 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: So anyone who doesn't blindly agree with you. Anyone who can't back their BS. I'm not sure why BS artists think their idiotic ideas are compulsory reading, or validated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted January 19, 2021 #120 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: So anyone who doesn't blindly agree with you. I've disagreed with psyche before and he has never done what you're implying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 19, 2021 #121 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Nuclear Wessel said: I'm not sure, but I hope so. Why wouldn't/shouldn't you? Selfish people don't give a rodents rectum about anyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 19, 2021 #122 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: I'm not sure, but I hope so. Why wouldn't/shouldn't you? There's no point in caring. One thing 2020 taught me is that the few whom I had high regards for on here never deserved it. Edited January 19, 2021 by XenoFish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 19, 2021 #123 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: Those suggestions are only going to benefit you, man. 10 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: I'm not sure, but I hope so. Why wouldn't/shouldn't you? He cares, this is typical Xeno not a happy camper and looking for something to rage against. So he comes here and finds bears to poke. I am sure he will find a few get his relief and grandstand a big exit, while hoping there will be those who beg him to stay. I have watched him do this for years, I am with you, I hope he finds a better way for his sake if nothing else. Edited January 19, 2021 by Sherapy 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 19, 2021 #124 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Sherapy said: He cares, this is typical Xeno not a happy camper and looking for something to rage against. So he comes here and finds bears to poke. I am sure he will find a few get his relief and grandstand a big exit, while hoping there will be those who beg him to stay. I have watched him do this for years, I am with you I hope he finds a better way for his sake if nothing else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 19, 2021 #125 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: I've disagreed with psyche before and he has never done what you're implying. Me too, Andy wants to work things out, regardless. He is a class act. His authenticity is just hard for those who need to or are looking to find theirs. IMHO Edited January 19, 2021 by Sherapy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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