Popular Post Eldorado Posted January 21, 2021 Popular Post #1 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Throughout the coronavirus pandemic, public attention has mainly focused on the number of people who become severely ill and die from COVID-19. But what's become clear in recent months is the large and growing group of people who continue to deal with prolonged symptoms long after their original illness. In a recent study posted on the preprint server medRxiv, analysis of an international survey of more than 3,700 respondents with COVID-19 found that over two-thirds were still experiencing numerous symptoms at 6 months, with significant impacts on patients' lives and livelihoods. Respondents with symptoms for more than 6 months said they are experiencing an average of nearly 14 symptoms across multiple organ systems. Full article at University of Minnesota CIDRAP: Link 3 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted January 21, 2021 #2 Share Posted January 21, 2021 This is an important issue that has been avoided by those pretending that COVID-19 only kills a few elderly people and that lock downs should only apply to those at risk. The long haulers were the original source of the idea of reinfection. It is these long haulers that had recurring bouts of the symptoms that early on claimed they were infected again, sometimes only a month after their original infection. Studies of patients showed that many did have lingering, objectively observable issues. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted January 21, 2021 #3 Share Posted January 21, 2021 From what I've been reading from articles and the long haulers on Reddit it looks like Long Covid might be the immune system not shutting off. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted January 21, 2021 #4 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Long Covid is no fun. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted January 26, 2021 #5 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) On 1/21/2021 at 9:07 AM, spartan max2 said: From what I've been reading from articles and the long haulers on Reddit it looks like Long Covid might be the immune system not shutting off. The virus integrates itself into the host, and it partially reengineers parts of us. Our immune system can see the left-over fingerprints. There are parts and pieces of the virus scattered all over the place. It’s like an EF5 tornado has hit, in some cases. Edited January 26, 2021 by Raptor Witness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted March 13, 2021 #6 Share Posted March 13, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 11:49 PM, acute said: Long Covid is no fun. I'm sorry you're suffering from this. Do you mind telling us what the symptoms are? Or if anyone else here has Long Covid, would you mind describing it to us, please? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted March 13, 2021 #7 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, ouija ouija said: Do you mind telling us what the symptoms are? My symptoms are numerous. They come and go, and overlap. On average, three symptoms every day. I rarely get a Covid-free day. I will probably miss a few off the list, but here goes..... Headache, brain fog, sticky/ painful eyes, dayglo orange ear-wax, tinnitus, runny nose (almost always), sore throat, heart/ chest pain, lethargy, general aches & pains, clumsiness, dizziness, sudden chills, diarrhœa, etc, etc. Strangely, no cough at all! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted March 13, 2021 #8 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, acute said: My symptoms are numerous. They come and go, and overlap. On average, three symptoms every day. I rarely get a Covid-free day. I will probably miss a few off the list, but here goes..... Headache, brain fog, sticky/ painful eyes, dayglo orange ear-wax, tinnitus, runny nose (almost always), sore throat, heart/ chest pain, lethargy, general aches & pains, clumsiness, dizziness, sudden chills, diarrhœa, etc, etc. Strangely, no cough at all! Have you seen a doctor or are you stoically putting up with this in the hope it will eventually go away? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted March 13, 2021 #9 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, ouija ouija said: Have you seen a doctor or are you stoically putting up with this in the hope it will eventually go away? I haven't mentioned it to my GP. There's no test for it, and there's no treatment for it. All they do is send you for cardiovascular workouts! I'm hoping my vaccine (8 days ago) will help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted March 13, 2021 #10 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) BTW..... Did you like the "œ"? Edited March 13, 2021 by acute 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted March 13, 2021 #11 Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, acute said: BTW..... Did you like the "œ"? Oh, in diarrhoea? I didn't notice it but now you've pointed it out . . . . please tell me how to do it as it irks me every time I type homeopathy without it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted March 13, 2021 #12 Share Posted March 13, 2021 58 minutes ago, acute said: My symptoms are numerous. They come and go, and overlap. On average, three symptoms every day. I rarely get a Covid-free day. I will probably miss a few off the list, but here goes..... Headache, brain fog, sticky/ painful eyes, dayglo orange ear-wax, tinnitus, runny nose (almost always), sore throat, heart/ chest pain, lethargy, general aches & pains, clumsiness, dizziness, sudden chills, diarrhœa, etc, etc. Strangely, no cough at all! How long have you been long hauling? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted March 13, 2021 #13 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, ouija ouija said: Have you seen a doctor or are you stoically putting up with this in the hope it will eventually go away? From what I've been reading, once again just from the Reddit stories, are that people are getting frustrated with Doctors because they will do some test on your heart and lungs and often not find anything so they just tell you you have anxiety. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted March 13, 2021 #14 Share Posted March 13, 2021 38 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: How long have you been long hauling? I had mild Covid in May, and the symptoms slowly came back from July onwards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted March 13, 2021 #15 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ouija ouija said: Oh, in diarrhoea? I didn't notice it but now you've pointed it out . . . . please tell me how to do it as it irks me every time I type homeopathy without it. I only used the "œ" for entertainment purposes. I usually just spell it the American way: 'diarrhea'. This link explains the special characters better than I could..... https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/insert-ascii-or-unicode-latin-based-symbols-and-characters-d13f58d3-7bcb-44a7-a4d5-972ee12e50e0 .....and there's a link to the character codes also. If you're still on a desktop PC, the Character Map is the easiest way. Edited March 13, 2021 by acute 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted March 13, 2021 #16 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (I just checked, and there's a Character Map on my laptop. Didn't know that!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted March 13, 2021 #17 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Homœopathy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted March 13, 2021 #18 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, ouija ouija said: Homœopathy Have you swallowed an encyclopædia? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted March 13, 2021 Author #19 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Related article.... A Stanford scientist's quest to cure his son could help unravel the mystery of Covid-19 long haulers CNN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted March 13, 2021 #20 Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 hours ago, acute said: I had mild Covid in May, and the symptoms slowly came back from July onwards. Has it seemed like it's improved any over time or sort of just the same? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted March 13, 2021 #21 Share Posted March 13, 2021 43 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: Has it seemed like it's improved any over time or sort of just the same? About the same, really. Sometimes, I think it's going away, then I'm proven wrong. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted March 15, 2021 #22 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Tonight: 'Dispatches - The Truth About Long Covid', Channel 4(UK), at 8pm. Just a half hour long programme but it's a start. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunn Posted March 15, 2021 #23 Share Posted March 15, 2021 5 hours ago, ouija ouija said: Tonight: 'Dispatches - The Truth About Long Covid', Channel 4(UK), at 8pm. Just a half hour long programme but it's a start. Well damn! Looks like the only other website I can watch that episode on is Sky? https://www.sky.com/watch/title/series/9d6486b2-d9e3-4a30-9912-86966d9d74a3/dispatches-9d6486b2-d9e3-4a30-9912-86966d9d74a3/episodes/season-0/episode-1 It seems like I have to download their app and open an account to watch it. I really don't want to do that just to watch that one episode. But I noticed they have tons of other Channel 4 Dispatches episodes on YouTube. Maybe someone will put that specific episode up on YouTube as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted March 15, 2021 #24 Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 9:52 AM, Eldorado said: Throughout the coronavirus pandemic, public attention has mainly focused on the number of people who become severely ill and die from COVID-19. But what's become clear in recent months is the large and growing group of people who continue to deal with prolonged symptoms long after their original illness. In a recent study posted on the preprint server medRxiv, analysis of an international survey of more than 3,700 respondents with COVID-19 found that over two-thirds were still experiencing numerous symptoms at 6 months, with significant impacts on patients' lives and livelihoods. Respondents with symptoms for more than 6 months said they are experiencing an average of nearly 14 symptoms across multiple organ systems. Full article at University of Minnesota CIDRAP: Link I wonder if it is because it's the fat and the ill that are overwhelmingly likely to die or get complications from this? Then add in a nasty little virus and suddenly it is is straw that broke the camels back. It is one reason why we need to get populatuons out in fresh air, mask free and losing weight. Then look at boosting metabolism. It is known who gets hit the worst. Why isn't it being used to develop health. Too little money in keeping people healthy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted March 15, 2021 #25 Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: I wonder if it is because it's the fat and the ill that are overwhelmingly likely to die or get complications from this? Then add in a nasty little virus and suddenly it is is straw that broke the camels back. It is one reason why we need to get populatuons out in fresh air, mask free and losing weight. Then look at boosting metabolism. It is known who gets hit the worst. Why isn't it being used to develop health. Too little money in keeping people healthy? Long hauling isn't exactly associated with how bad your initial infection was. Alot of mild initial infections are long hauling. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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