XenoFish Posted January 25, 2021 #76 Share Posted January 25, 2021 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091130151321.htm Religious people tend to use their own beliefs as a guide in thinking about what God believes, but are less constrained when reasoning about other people's beliefs, according to new study published in the Nov. 30 early edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. https://www.psypost.org/2020/07/new-psychological-research-links-atheism-to-emotional-suppression-57490 “Belief or disbelief in the Unseen is often regarded as the foundation of people’s worldviews, and anger, pity, and the like are often directed at those whose worldviews don’t match our own. This new research points to a profound irony — that belief and disbelief themselves are shaped, in part, by what we do with our emotions,” said Christopher T. Burris, the author of the new study and professor of psychology at St. Jerome’s University. Just to balance things out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 25, 2021 #77 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Will Do said: Yours So I'm God. No wonder you're misquoting the Beatitudes. You're a heretic! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted January 25, 2021 #78 Share Posted January 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: No wonder you're misquoting the Beatitudes Took the words out of my text pad... ~ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 26, 2021 Author #79 Share Posted January 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Will Do said: "Happy are you when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely" Will you seem to be having troubles moving forward in a discussion Maybe there will be a Will Do epiphany some time. jmccr8 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 26, 2021 #80 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Will Do said: "Happy are you when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely" Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Matthew 5:11 It's addressed to the followers of Jesus, explaining the consequence of following Jesus. It's not a free pass to trolls, or worse. Edited January 26, 2021 by Golden Duck 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted January 26, 2021 #81 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: It's addressed to the followers of Jesus Yes. Yes it is Which makes me happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 26, 2021 #82 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Will Do said: Yes. Yes it is Which makes me happy Know one was, or is, reviling you for following Jesus. That's prohibited even in this forum. You been invited to engage beyond misquote and you invariably respond with trite obfuscations. Even Jesus sat with the tax collectors. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted January 26, 2021 #83 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: Know one was, or is, reviling you for following Jesus. Thank you. Quote You been invited to engage beyond misquote and you invariably respond with trite obfuscations. You know what's interesting about that? One man's understanding is often another man's obfuscation, when engaging with others. That's why I keep at it. Not because I'm not understood, but because in articulating what I'm thinking, I'm not being clear enough. That isn't a sin is it? Quote Even Jesus sat with the tax collectors. What religion does to my brain makes me happy. Something tells me when it's true, the same thing happens to you. Edited January 26, 2021 by Will Do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 26, 2021 #84 Share Posted January 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Will Do said: Something tells me when it's true, the same thing happens to you. That's pretty much the definition of cognitive bias. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 26, 2021 Author #85 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Hi Xeno Guess there is a loophole in everything, I know I said I wouldn't quote you and did not want to go back on my word but I haven't quoted you so just wanted to thank you for giving a worthwhile add to the topic. jmccr8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted January 26, 2021 #86 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, psyche101 said: That's pretty much the definition of cognitive bias. Aren't you biased to the truth? To the best of your ability at least, that you're able to recognize something as being true. Edited January 26, 2021 by Will Do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 26, 2021 Author #87 Share Posted January 26, 2021 jmccr8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted January 26, 2021 #88 Share Posted January 26, 2021 19 hours ago, jmccr8 said: H Qx That is debatable the majority of people in prisons are religious so I don't see much value in your position. jmccr8 True And yet in America the majority of prisoners only become religious WHILE in prison One accepted reason is that the nature of parole boards in America is such that, statistically, you have a better chance of early parole if you profess a deep religious conviction (and show some evidence of it while incarcerated) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 26, 2021 Author #89 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Will Do said: Aren't you biased to the truth? To the best of your ability at least, that you're able to recognize something as being true. Hi Will Well lets try this on for size You say you have a god so I would start with it is rue that Will believes that there is a god so I look for the evidence that Will's god exists I look up, down left right behind and around your back and can not see that your god exists. I am then left with I do not know if Will's god exists so I can neither assert that god does/does not exist so there is no truth other than a decision could not be made but the bonus point is that it is true that you believe. Nothing more nothing less. So this really is not the topic of the tread so lets get back to the mind tricks of believing something as outlined in the OP link jmccr8 Edited January 26, 2021 by jmccr8 spulling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted January 26, 2021 #90 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, jmccr8 said: Well lets try this on for size A kindly reminder... Quote www.urbandictionary.com › de... will do - Urban Dictionary 1. a dildo made by someone called will. 2. a dildo used by someone called will. 1. hey will can i buy one of your finely made ... ~ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted January 26, 2021 #91 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Using your brain is generally good for it.... whether that's prayer, meditation, or any sort of visualization? or creative process? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 26, 2021 Author #92 Share Posted January 26, 2021 42 minutes ago, lightly said: Using your brain is generally good for it.... whether that's prayer, meditation, or any sort of visualization? or creative process? Hi Lightly Yes although the article seemed to want to interpret data in a specific way that was not necessarily factual in order to create a focus in the reader that it was directing them to see the data from their perspective jmccr8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted January 26, 2021 #93 Share Posted January 26, 2021 48 minutes ago, lightly said: Using your brain is generally good for it.... whether that's prayer, meditation, or any sort of visualization? or creative process? Like thinking things through. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 26, 2021 #94 Share Posted January 26, 2021 18 hours ago, jmccr8 said: Guess there is a loophole in everything A perfect belief does not exist as nothing at all is perfect. No one has the right reality model. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted January 26, 2021 #95 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Desertrat56 said: Like thinking things through. I knew I'd forgotten something, lol. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 26, 2021 Author #96 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Is there a right reality tunnel if we all live different lives and have different experiences or are they just maybe incomplete in some sense? jmccr8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 26, 2021 #97 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: Is there a right reality tunnel if we all live different lives and have different experiences or are they just maybe incomplete in some sense? jmccr8 The typical idea is that one way of viewing things is the right way. Some think their way of seeing things is the right way. However this is no one size fits all. None of us share the exact same beliefs, views, and opinions. So we can't really have one fully accepted way of thinking. This is the reason for some much conflict. If you want to really see this in action, spent time in the Covid and Political sections of UM. You'll also see pack mentality at play. You can quote me by the way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 26, 2021 Author #98 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) That was pretty much what I thought as well as for the political section I do read but do not engage there much because it is American political based discussions so really none of my business as a Canadian but yes know what you mean and have felt it's negative outpourings all over the forum. jmccr8 Edited January 26, 2021 by jmccr8 spulling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 27, 2021 #99 Share Posted January 27, 2021 22 hours ago, Will Do said: Aren't you biased to the truth? To the best of your ability at least, that you're able to recognize something as being true. No. That would be my version of the truth not the real truth if I was to consider that. Truth can be elusive. It can be hard to uncover. Bias is a terrible companion in that pursuit. It's a hindrance and it steers you in its own direction. What your saying there is you have figured out the ultimate questions. You have not. You have chosen to build a certain idea in your mind and believe in it. I could imagine hell as an awesome non stop party with the greatest bands Ive heard, whom would likely all be there too, bounds of gorgeous women all smitten with me and every delicacy and the best drinks in all of time and space. But that would be no more realistic than what you have been saying is the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted January 27, 2021 #100 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, psyche101 said: No. That would be my version of the truth not the real truth if I was to consider that. What's the difference between your truth and the real truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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