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psyche101
58 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

Those are total suicides which include gun suicides, along with drugs, hanging, jumping off of bridges/buildings.  Point is dead is dead and if someone wants to kill themselves they will find a way.  Your need to only look at gun suicides shows you have no interests in actual honest conversation but just want to continue on an anti-gun rant.

No you're wrong. 

Removing the easy immediate choice also has a significant effect on impulse actions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3518361/

58 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

It's not hand waving, if you change how mass shootings are counted that drastically changes the total number.  The public shootings that occur generally happen is very specific locations between people involved in organized crime, if they werent shooting each other they would be stabbing each other or using blunt objects to bash each other.  As for school shootings while America does have a significant amount, not the most as Honduras school shootings are a daily occurrence practically, it's also true that a significant amount of school shootings result in 1 or 0 deaths with the 1 death frequently being the shooter themselves.

Yes you are handwaving. 

Sandy hook. Virginia Tech, Columbine, Parklands. The list is extensive. 

58 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

I'm saying stupid people do stupid things and if one thing doesnt get them something else will.

Not impulse actions. See the above link. 

58 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

Looking at stuff per capita is a pretty standard way of comparing countries which have drastically different populations.  

If you want to talk about blunting figures, and true intellectual dishonesty, it's you throwing around gun deaths as equivalent to homicides along with other mixing various figures in together cause you have no evidence to stand on.  It's already been established that approximately half of all gun deaths in America are suicides and that in terms of suicides America is pretty middle of the pack with other developed nations.  That pretty much covers your first link.  As for the second link I do like how you go on about how per capita isnt a good measure then use per capita but other then that looking at gun homicides instead of total homicides is just intellectually dishonest and only done when one wants to push an agenda.

It was supposed not be pointing out that per capita doesn't mean much when your population is 330 million. 

What you are dancing around is the significant number of public shootings. You're supposed to be a first world country and you compare that to Honduras? Which is attached to your mainland, contaminating the region with gun culture? Seriously you've got to be kidding me.

58 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

It's to show that you know absolutely nothing about guns but yet you have this odd anti-gun desire that verges on obsession.

Good to see you result to personal insults and working on getting around the censor.  I dont know what you have against guns but you definitely have some kind of deep seated personal problem going on.

I'm not interested in your extensive knowledge of how many bullets you can fire in a second. It's the people who catch them that are the concern. You can't seem to approach that subject because your too busy defending the culture. 

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psyche101
49 minutes ago, and then said:

Not in America, it isn't.  Those who feel they can treat it as a government controlled "privilege" may someday try to impose that concept and then we'll see who views it as a privilege and who refuses to have their RIGHT taken from them.  Sadly, that conflict seems to be inevitable and it will be a tragedy for ALL Americans.

That's stupid and what is wrong with America today. You like to talk tough but you don't come of that way. It's not a right, America has abused what is a privilege. Your thinking is outdated, barbarous and redundant. 

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preacherman76

Wow psyche, Maybe I'll come back to this conversation when you can emotionally handle it. Clearly you can not, and I like you so I'm not going to be part of a conversation that's going to get you suspended or banned. 

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psyche101
4 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Wow psyche, Maybe I'll come back to this conversation when you can emotionally handle it. Clearly you can not, and I like you so I'm not going to be part of a conversation that's going to get you suspended or banned. 

Whatever.

Try the subject then. Obviously you agree with the actions of division being practised here. I don't but I see what Oversword is saying. It's a stunt and I'm sure it has improved sales. Just strikes me as unethical. 

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preacherman76
Just now, psyche101 said:

Whatever.

Try the subject then. Obviously you agree with the actions of division being practised here. I don't but I see what Oversword is saying. It's a stunt and I'm sure it has improved sales. Just strikes me as unethical. 

I see it as a way to bring attention to a subject that directly effects their livelihood. I don't know if I'd use the term unethical, but it is divisive. They probably could have gone about it in a different way. 

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psyche101
1 minute ago, preacherman76 said:

I see it as a way to bring attention to a subject that directly effects their livelihood. I don't know if I'd use the term unethical, but it is divisive. They probably could have gone about it in a different way. 

Wether they like Biden or Trump, one thing I would think they share in common is 2A. It's supposed to be for protection of the country. As much as I dislike gun culture, it's sadder to see Americans turning on things that should be bigger than any one man and bring you together. You've well illustrated how important this privilege is to you, yet these guys are denying that. So are those supporting that. It's a sobering demonstration. 

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preacherman76

Yeah I fear the divide is so great today that it’s become irreconcilable. The drastic changes those in power seem to want to implement, not just regarding the second amendment but pretty much every aspect of our lives, many of us feel  like they are trying to take away everything that makes America what it is. 
 

I wish I knew the answer.

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psyche101
Just now, preacherman76 said:

Yeah I fear the divide is so great today that it’s become irreconcilable. The drastic changes those in power seem to want to implement, not just regarding the second amendment but pretty much every aspect of our lives, many of us feel  like they are trying to take away everything that makes America what it is. 
 

I wish I knew the answer.

The answer is the people. 

America is not just a place. It's a people. That seems to be getting lost in all the left right crap and who should have what and who owes who. 

Humans have a gift for over complication.

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preacherman76
3 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

The answer is the people. 

America is not just a place. It's a people. That seems to be getting lost in all the left right crap and who should have what and who owes who. 

Humans have a gift for over complication.

Amen to that. 
 

I have heard it said that because we no longer have an outside enemy big enough to be a threat, at least in people’s minds, that we automatically turn on each other. That the human condition is very tribalistic. 
 

We have always been divided to some extent, but we have always had a bigger boogeyman outside our shores going back to at least ww1. Again at least in our minds. 
 

I think humanity is a long way off from evolving beyond that mind set. 

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psyche101
1 minute ago, preacherman76 said:

Amen to that. 
 

I have heard it said that because we no longer have an outside enemy big enough to be a threat, at least in people’s minds, that we automatically turn on each other. That the human condition is very tribalistic. 
 

We have always been divided to some extent, but we have always had a bigger boogeyman outside our shores going back to at least ww1. Again at least in our minds. 
 

I think humanity is a long way off from evolving beyond that mind set. 

It's what we do. We overcome. We recognise the brutality of Darwinism and strive to improve. It's why we have societies, compassion, laws.

We have to move forward.

It's so disappointing to see the right acting like this. It was shameful when left orientated people took to the streets protesting when Trump won. Anyone knows I'm no fan of the guy at all, but the choice is made by the people and has to be accepted by the people and respected. It's four years. If things go bad you can change it then. That's just how things are. 

I hope you guys can put your political differences aside for the bigger picture. I really do.

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preacherman76

Its definitely a difficult situation we find ourselves in. Personally for me, it's seems there are people who just want to impose their will on us all. Not just regarding the SA. Aside from a few posts here and there on a message board, I find myself wanting to turn inward, and just block it all out. I wish there was a place I could go where I could just be left alone. Right, left, to hell with them all. I have a very small circle of people who I'm close to. We work hard, we play hard, we don't want to hurt anyone. We help each other out when one of us is down. That's the life I've strived for. I see many of things being done today as a direct threat to all that. 

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Myles
10 hours ago, psyche101 said:

Right, so of everyone did what you want that would be unity would it?

Gun culture proponents. Those who think they can't live without that phallic shaped security blanket.

Because I call you out, especially when picking on his wife? I don't think so. Do you usually pick on females Myles? Give it but can't take it Myles. Ha. What a joke.

Nope.   Compromise leads to unity.   The left doesn't believe in compromise.  

Those who want a gun are gun nuts?   OK biden nut.  

No one ever picked on Trumps wife?   Keep your head in the sand.   

I enjoy my guns and like the protection for my family.  It's a constitutional right.   I will also disagree with the government if they try to outlaw swimming pools even though I don't own one.  Many more children die in swimming pools than by guns.  It's not in the constitution but I'd still be against it.  

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psyche101
On 2/23/2021 at 11:38 PM, Myles said:

Nope.   Compromise leads to unity.   The left doesn't believe in compromise.  

That's not what your post is saying. Reread your last paragraph. That's not compromise Myles. You just used your god given right to shoot yourself in the foot. 

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Those who want a gun are gun nuts? 

Those who think that some God gave it them, and refuse to compromise. People who think one needs an automatic weapon in a city. 

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 OK biden nut.  

Oh. Very mature Myles. 

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No one ever picked on Trumps wife?   Keep your head in the sand.   

When did I pick on her, and say she had slept with countless men? 

I don't stoop down there. I notice you do though.

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I enjoy my guns and like the protection for my family.  It's a constitutional right.   I will also disagree with the government if they try to outlaw swimming pools even though I don't own one.  Many more children die in swimming pools than by guns.  It's not in the constitution but I'd still be against it.  

When a swimming pool breaks into a school and starts deliberately killing children at random I'll give your idea a listen. Do you understand the difference between a deliberate attack and an accident? It would seem not going by this. 

Good old whataboutism. Giving gun nuts excuses to not discuss the subject since forever. 

Gun regulation arguments......

 

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Myles
9 hours ago, psyche101 said:

 

Those who think that some God gave it them, and refuse to compromise. People who think one needs an automatic weapon in a city. 

 

 

 

 

Glad you don't think I'm a "gun nut".    I'm an atheist.   I also do not live in a city nor do I have an automatic weapon.  

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