Eldorado Posted March 6, 2021 #1 Share Posted March 6, 2021 The 'Father of Capitalism' Adam Smith's grave has been included in Edinburgh City Council's 'ludicrously biased' dossier of sites linked to slavery and colonialism. The Scottish council last year launched a review of Edinburgh's links to slavery and colonialism in response to the Black Lives Matter movement, led by human rights activist Sir Geoff Palmer. The Slavery and Colonialism Legacy Review Group will consider how monuments and street names linked to 'oppression' could be 're-configured' or potentially removed. MSN Telegraph 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted March 6, 2021 #2 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Why don't people realize we can't hold people of the past to modern standards of morality. Really if we are going to do that then we should ban all famous artist, demolish a while bunch of famous old buildings, and let's not forget all the scientific advancements from people in the past. All these things also used money through whatever methods of the time were. Who all probably had racist, imperialistic, transphobic, misogynistic, anti LTGB, hated other religions, etc views of some kind. Because people are products of their time. Edited March 6, 2021 by spartan max2 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted March 6, 2021 #3 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Might even want to question those passages in the old testament that allow possession of slaves from foreign lands and other issues we find morally unacceptable today. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted March 6, 2021 #4 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) So, another dumbing down tactic, erase history so that the next generation of children have no clue instead of discussing history rationally and putting it into perspective. Edited March 6, 2021 by Desertrat56 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted March 6, 2021 #5 Share Posted March 6, 2021 It may be foolish. It may not even be a logical or thoughtful conclusion about Adam Smith but a gut response to the few who claim slavery wasn't all that bad or excuse it because Black people enslaved other Black people. Same with so many issues. Adam Smith is not the issue but a convenient battleground we fight over about today's social reckoning. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwa125 Posted March 6, 2021 #6 Share Posted March 6, 2021 As a person of Scottish descent, WTH is going up there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted March 6, 2021 #7 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Forget the stuff that happened in the distant past and tackle the problems of present. Corruption, child and human trafficking, drugs, animal abuse, deforestation, water and air pollution the list goes on and on, when present so many people are suffering why is there no celebrity talking about them, why no media is outraged? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwa125 Posted March 6, 2021 #8 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, kartikg said: Forget the stuff that happened in the distant past and tackle the problems of present. Corruption, child and human trafficking, drugs, animal abuse, deforestation, water and air pollution the list goes on and on, when present so many people are suffering why is there no celebrity talking about them, why no media is outraged? Cant say for rest but deforestation isn’t a problem in Scotland. They’re planting new trees every time I come up. And I think water and air is decent too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperionxvii Posted March 6, 2021 #9 Share Posted March 6, 2021 You have to understand. It's not any persons who are being cancelled. It's Western Civilization that's being cancelled. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autochthon1990 Posted March 7, 2021 #10 Share Posted March 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Hyperionxvii said: You have to understand. It's not any persons who are being cancelled. It's Western Civilization that's being cancelled. Yeah getting rid of Robert E Lee statues and looking into who else might be a douchebag who shouldn't have a memorial statue in the public square means we're one step away from everybody wearing a Burkha. Nobody b****ed when they got rid of Jimmy Saville's statues over in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted March 7, 2021 #11 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Erasing history and destroying cultural past... that's a good way to put authoritarianism in place. They have done it a lots of time in the past, burning books, destroying monuments, etc. Without references of the past, how can society advance ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autochthon1990 Posted March 7, 2021 #12 Share Posted March 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jon the frog said: Erasing history and destroying cultural past... that's a good way to put authoritarianism in place. They have done it a lots of time in the past, burning books, destroying monuments, etc. Without references of the past, how can society advance ? Yes because the entirety of our history is contained within statues of *******s in the public square. Not, say, Museums, Libraries, and other locations people go to learn about history. Look, at a certain point, the good people did isn't outweighed by the bad they did. We give the Founding Fathers a pass because they where flawed individuals who did awful things, but also a lot of good at the same time. But with figures like Robert E Lee and the aforementioned Jimmy Saville thing, most folk have decided that the small amounts of good they did weren't really counterbalanced by the slavery and pedophilia. Just like how we don't have statues of Hitler with the placard reading "CREATOR OF THE AUTOBAHN" in Munich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted March 7, 2021 #13 Share Posted March 7, 2021 11 hours ago, Eldorado said: The 'Father of Capitalism' Adam Smith's grave has been included in Edinburgh City Council's 'ludicrously biased' dossier of sites linked to slavery and colonialism. The Scottish council last year launched a review of Edinburgh's links to slavery and colonialism in response to the Black Lives Matter movement, led by human rights activist Sir Geoff Palmer. The Slavery and Colonialism Legacy Review Group will consider how monuments and street names linked to 'oppression' could be 're-configured' or potentially removed. MSN Telegraph The Communist Strategy is about dissolving away all identity, religion, race, culture, and symbols. A sexless, raceless, nationless, atheist, group of equals, who dont know who they are, who can be merged together into a Communist utopia. People push back against it, so in order to bring it in needs force. Demonise all that oppose, cancel them all, ostracise them, until power can be seized in a take over, and then they can be locked up and gotten rid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted March 7, 2021 #14 Share Posted March 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Autochthon1990 said: Yes because the entirety of our history is contained within statues of *******s in the public square. Not, say, Museums, Libraries, and other locations people go to learn about history. Look, at a certain point, the good people did isn't outweighed by the bad they did. We give the Founding Fathers a pass because they where flawed individuals who did awful things, but also a lot of good at the same time. But with figures like Robert E Lee and the aforementioned Jimmy Saville thing, most folk have decided that the small amounts of good they did weren't really counterbalanced by the slavery and pedophilia. Just like how we don't have statues of Hitler with the placard reading "CREATOR OF THE AUTOBAHN" in Munich. The OP is about Adam Smith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortugabob Posted March 7, 2021 #15 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) Confederate generals, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Adam Smith and now Mr Potato Head and Dr. Seuss. When the tide turns back to sanity the blow back against this nonsense will be something to behold. I look forward to it. Edited March 7, 2021 by tortugabob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted March 7, 2021 #16 Share Posted March 7, 2021 19 hours ago, spartan max2 said: Why don't people realize we can't hold people of the past to modern standards of morality. Really if we are going to do that then we should ban all famous artist, demolish a while bunch of famous old buildings, and let's not forget all the scientific advancements from people in the past. All these things also used money through whatever methods of the time were. Who all probably had racist, imperialistic, transphobic, misogynistic, anti LTGB, hated other religions, etc views of some kind. Because people are products of their time. People are idiots, it´s one of the main traits of humanity. Personally I am a moron and I know it, but I try to do better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted March 7, 2021 #17 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Autochthon1990 said: Yes because the entirety of our history is contained within statues of *******s in the public square. Not, say, Museums, Libraries, and other locations people go to learn about history. Look, at a certain point, the good people did isn't outweighed by the bad they did. We give the Founding Fathers a pass because they where flawed individuals who did awful things, but also a lot of good at the same time. But with figures like Robert E Lee and the aforementioned Jimmy Saville thing, most folk have decided that the small amounts of good they did weren't really counterbalanced by the slavery and pedophilia. Just like how we don't have statues of Hitler with the placard reading "CREATOR OF THE AUTOBAHN" in Munich. Well book burning will come soon enough at this rate... they are removing books of the shelves. Yeah, glorification of past wrong doing and bad people is not a good thing but erasing them from history by labelling, is not the good way either... Most past leaders have been rewarded from slavery (Slavery was present everywhere...), most people 200 years ago have done things that are not politically correct by present standard. We can use bulldozer to destroy all ancient cemeteries at this rate... destroying castle in Europe, burning church, destroy the vatican, level roman and greek ruins. Edited March 7, 2021 by Jon the frog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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