Myles Posted March 18, 2022 #126 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Lia Thomas has become the first male to win female sports championship. I hope she breaks a leg. https://www.foxnews.com/sports/lia-thomas-protesters-ncaa-women-swimming-victory-atlanta 1 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted March 18, 2022 #127 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Myles said: Lia Thomas has become the first male to win female sports championship. What an accomplishment. 1 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zebra3 Posted March 18, 2022 #130 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) Meet the REAL winner of the NCAA 500 yard freestyle: University of Virginia swimmer Emma Weyant who is an Olympic silver medalist is hailed as a heroine on social media after coming second to controversial trans rival Lia Thomas https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10626265/Uni-Virginia-swimmer-hailed-heroine-coming-second-NCAA-final-trans-rival-Lia-Thomas.html Edited March 18, 2022 by Zebra3 2 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted March 18, 2022 #131 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Notice how they omitted 'Womens'. Guess the picture doesn't lend itself. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted March 19, 2022 #132 Share Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/18/2022 at 7:24 AM, Myles said: Lia Thomas has become the first male to win female sports championship. I hope she breaks a leg. https://www.foxnews.com/sports/lia-thomas-protesters-ncaa-women-swimming-victory-atlanta 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 19, 2022 #133 Share Posted March 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, Hawken said: Dude, show the rest of the photo where the born female competitors are all segregated from Lia, and about two feet shorter. 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted March 19, 2022 #134 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) On 3/18/2022 at 12:24 PM, Myles said: Lia Thomas has become the first male to win female sports championship. I hope she breaks a leg. https://www.foxnews.com/sports/lia-thomas-protesters-ncaa-women-swimming-victory-atlanta Until we have that 'emporers new clothes' moment & somebody calls this out for what it really is, I'm afraid this will keep happening. Edited March 19, 2022 by itsnotoutthere 2 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 20, 2022 #135 Share Posted March 20, 2022 54 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said: Until we have that 'emporers new clothes' moment & somebody calls this out for what it really is, I'm afraid this will keep happening. Until Hu Gkok from China thrashes the American female swimming team in every Olympic event there’ll be no real push back. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted March 20, 2022 #136 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) It won’t take long before every womens sports record will be owned by a man. Edited March 20, 2022 by preacherman76 2 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted March 20, 2022 #137 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Until Hu Gkok from China thrashes the American female swimming team in every Olympic event there’ll be no real push back. Hey, I think you might be onto something there. Perhaps if the whole Chinese women's team at the next Olympics was all 'trans women' and took every gold going, maybe people would wake up to the absurdity that this whole thing is. Or perhaps that's the plan all along and the USA are going to send a squad of trans athletes. Edited March 20, 2022 by itsnotoutthere 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted March 21, 2022 #138 Share Posted March 21, 2022 15 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: Hey, I think you might be onto something there. Perhaps if the whole Chinese women's team at the next Olympics was all 'trans women' and took every gold going, maybe people would wake up to the absurdity that this whole thing is. Or perhaps that's the plan all along and the USA are going to send a squad of trans athletes. yup. You have the men's team and the team of men that fall just shy of making the men's team, a men's B-team, so to speak. Meanwhile, women's sports will be disappeared. 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted March 21, 2022 #139 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Lia Thomas was about #460 as a male swimmer. Imagine if a guy in the top 100 pulls the same stunt? And there's gold in them there hills! how about getting a full scholarship to a top university. There's $400K for ya. Or how about winning a gold medal and getting some serious endorsements from the woke companies. follow the $$$$! That tells me.,, it'll happen. 7 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted March 21, 2022 #140 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted March 21, 2022 #141 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 12:08 AM, preacherman76 said: It won’t take long before every womens sports record will be owned by a man. This has to be addressed by the women and then and only then will this stop. Refuse to compete with and refuse to compete against, just walk off the field. Once this starts happening then the advertising dollars will dry up and corrections will be made. 5 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted March 21, 2022 #142 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) It’s hard to deny that the practice of self-identification is increasingly open to abuse — in the UK, as well as in America. Only last week Baroness Nicholson broke the story of the rape of a woman in a female ward by a male-bodied transwoman, who had been allowed in the ward thanks to the acceptance by the NHS of self-identification. Gender identity ideology often comes packaged in warm and fuzzy clichés. “Trans women are women”; “What impact does it have on your life anyway?”; “Can’t you just be kind?” But for how much longer can we ignore the grave consequences for women when predatory men take advantage of the new rules of this ideology. https://unherd.com/2022/03/how-gender-self-id-is-being-abused/ Edited March 21, 2022 by itsnotoutthere 1 1 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieChecker Posted March 24, 2022 #143 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/18/2022 at 7:15 AM, itsnotoutthere said: That's not true. By the time she's an adult there will not be any biological woman swimming competitively. It will be all trans woman. 2 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted March 24, 2022 #144 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, DieChecker said: That's not true. By the time she's an adult there will not be any biological woman swimming competitively. It will be all trans woman. So....men then. 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted March 24, 2022 #145 Share Posted March 24, 2022 https://unherd.com/2022/03/the-fictional-world-of-trans-activism/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted March 24, 2022 #146 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 3:26 AM, itsnotoutthere said: It’s hard to deny that the practice of self-identification is increasingly open to abuse — in the UK, as well as in America. Only last week Baroness Nicholson broke the story of the rape of a woman in a female ward by a male-bodied transwoman, who had been allowed in the ward thanks to the acceptance by the NHS of self-identification. Gender identity ideology often comes packaged in warm and fuzzy clichés. “Trans women are women”; “What impact does it have on your life anyway?”; “Can’t you just be kind?” But for how much longer can we ignore the grave consequences for women when predatory men take advantage of the new rules of this ideology. https://unherd.com/2022/03/how-gender-self-id-is-being-abused/ You don't need to fear monger. Men already have a bad enough reputation as it is. Don't you know as a man you are a potentially violent/rapist/pedophile/narcissistic/ murderers? I'd say there is a lot of trans women who aren't the stereotype the more bigoted posters often portray them as. I don't think we should be promoting hate towards anyone. Just like men who really hate the few that ruin it for everyone, we should consider other communities the same courtesy. Putting oneself in another's shoes figuratively speaking. Not high heels. This incident has caused Mississippi to make a law about it. Perhaps someone might finally grow a set and actually address the issue. Testosterone is a chemical. It's advantageous to greater bone and muscle mass. It's clearly where athletes like Lia gain a tremendous advantage. Other performance enhancing substances are illegal. There's a sensible argument here to consider testosterone 'natural doping'. It's an identifiable unfair advantage. That this has made headlines might hopefully highlight that fact. But hysterical finger pointing isn't helping that process. There's no need to hate, but I'm sure enough agree that these scales need adjusting. There's feelings, and then there's hard evidence. IMHO, testosterone is hard evidence that 'natural doping' not only occurs but needs to be accounted for in sports to be truly fair. I get that you don't like it. You're not alone. Just don't be a Midge about it. Rather than attack trans women, the people who make the rules are who need to be addressed. One state has taken this into their own hands. If they didn't have good reason it would have to be reversed and the law would not have passed. I assume they put forth a fair and sensible argument. If others follow suit, perhaps the national board responsible, and the Olympic committee as well could make natural doping as illegal as taking a performance enhancing drug. After all, that's the real issue here. Sport should be fair. Performance enhancing substances change that. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted March 24, 2022 #147 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, psyche101 said: You don't need to fear monger. Men already have a bad enough reputation as it is. Don't you know as a man you are a potentially violent/rapist/pedophile/narcissistic/ murderers? I'd say there is a lot of trans women who aren't the stereotype the more bigoted posters often portray them as. I don't think we should be promoting hate towards anyone. Just like men who really hate the few that ruin it for everyone, we should consider other communities the same courtesy. Putting oneself in another's shoes figuratively speaking. Not high heels. This incident has caused Mississippi to make a law about it. Perhaps someone might finally grow a set and actually address the issue. Testosterone is a chemical. It's advantageous to greater bone and muscle mass. It's clearly where athletes like Lia gain a tremendous advantage. Other performance enhancing substances are illegal. There's a sensible argument here to consider testosterone 'natural doping'. It's an identifiable unfair advantage. That this has made headlines might hopefully highlight that fact. But hysterical finger pointing isn't helping that process. There's no need to hate, but I'm sure enough agree that these scales need adjusting. There's feelings, and then there's hard evidence. IMHO, testosterone is hard evidence that 'natural doping' not only occurs but needs to be accounted for in sports to be truly fair. I get that you don't like it. You're not alone. Just don't be a Midge about it. Rather than attack trans women, the people who make the rules are who need to be addressed. One state has taken this into their own hands. If they didn't have good reason it would have to be reversed and the law would not have passed. I assume they put forth a fair and sensible argument. If others follow suit, perhaps the national board responsible, and the Olympic committee as well could make natural doping as illegal as taking a performance enhancing drug. After all, that's the real issue here. Sport should be fair. Performance enhancing substances change that. You keep using the word 'hate' To point out the bleeding obvious & not go along with the fiction does not constitute hate. And to conflate disbelief of this fiction with 'hate' is purposefully misleading. I do not believe Jesus fed thousands of people with 5 fishes & 2 loaves of bread, presumably that makes you think I hate all christians.....nope. Stop pretending that just because somebody doesn't go along with somebody elses belief system they automatically 'hate' them. It's just another trick to sway the opinions of others & muddy the waters. ps. There are obvious consequences to physical men taking part in female sports or being allowed into female prisons or female hospital wards.....that you don't want to acknowledge those consequences is your choice, but those consequences are still there whether you like it or not. Edited March 24, 2022 by itsnotoutthere 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted March 24, 2022 #148 Share Posted March 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said: You keep using the word 'hate' To point out the bleeding obvious & not go along with the fiction does not constitute hate. And to conflate disbelief of this fiction with 'hate' is purposefully misleading. I do not believe Jesus fed thousands of people with 5 fishes & 2 loaves of bread, presumably that makes you think I hate all christians.....nope. Stop pretending that just because somebody doesn't go along with somebody elses belief system they automatically 'hate' them. It's just another trick to sway the opinions of others & muddy the waters. ps. There are obvious consequences to physical men taking part in female sports or being allowed into female prisons or female hospital wards.....that you don't want to acknowledge those consequences is your choice, but those consequences are still there whether you like it or not. pps. https://unherd.com/2022/03/how-gender-self-id-is-being-abused/ I do "hate" that Lia is fine with taking things away from biological females who have trained all their lives. She is a piece of garbage for doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieChecker Posted March 24, 2022 #149 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: So....men then. Uhhh... yeah... I guess so... Sucks to be a woman swimmer in that timeline. I wonder if Doctor Strange could fix it somehow. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded1 Posted March 24, 2022 #150 Share Posted March 24, 2022 The whole topic just reminds me of this episode of South Park . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URz-RYEOaig 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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