psyche101 Posted March 26, 2022 #176 Share Posted March 26, 2022 17 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Yeah cause taking some creatine and having balls are the same thing lol. Who says that? You're being one too huh. Unsurprising. Why can't women take anabolic steroids to even muscle and bone mass? That's the advantage testosterone gives a trans woman and as far as I can tell it's illegal. They are breaking their own rules. Isn't that more important? Shouldn't the people supposedly policing doping be asked why they are allowing natural doping? Hating on Lia isn't going to address that factual issue here. It's a genuine question that should be addressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted March 26, 2022 #177 Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: Nope. It's about sports controversy. - Yes, the controversy being biological males taking part in female sport. No the controversy of unfair advantage. There are rules to stop this. Why are they not enforced? Why can Lia have a banned substance? 17 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: Then post about the subject instead of midge level stereotyping. - I am, you're not. Yes you are. Grow up. You don't need to search for bad trans stories. I've already noted I can triple those links and then some about straight men. That's not helping. It's just bigoted posting. 17 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: What? Wtf are you talking about? Thousands of years of scientific knowledge??? - Biology...It's a branch of science. You're just making stuff up. Thousands of years ago nobody was analysing testosterone. 17 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: Read my posts. -Yep. Nope. Otherwise you could input instead of just hysterical posting. Get over yourself. You have not at all addressed the fact that USADA and WADA are breaking their own rules. 17 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: The issue is doping through natural means. You're just being a Midge and hating on trans people in general. - Title of the thread is "Mississippi ban transgender women from sports" Not 'Doping through natural means' And there you go with the hate thing again. I'll say it again....For some bizarre reason you are attempting to explain my lack of acquiescence to the trans religion as hate, I don't hate anything apart from beetroot. Your posting says otherwise. You're just throwing sticks and stones. Very childish. It you read the bill that passed, which is linked at the OP, you would have read that chapter sixty two, part four specificity refers to testosterone, increased muscle mass, fat and bone mass as a result. Thats the reason its banned as an artificial enhancer. Do you get how important that is? Do you understand that it is the best biological argument one could produce? Do you understand that USADA and WADA will have to explain why they allow natural doping for social ideology in sorts? It's like religion in schools. A huge misfit and detrimental to the standard they say they are achieving. 17 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: Do better. I'm sure you can. ....better than what? Better than stereotyping. Better than you have been. Address facts, don't just bag others out. 17 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: I'll lay my opinions out in simple terms regarding the subject of this thread for you to understand where I'm coming from. I do not believe biological males should be allowed to compete in female sports. I do not believe biological males should be allowed to share female only hospital wards or female prison cells simply because they've decided to 'identify' as female. I do not believe that a trans woman is a real woman in the true (biological) sense. If a biological man wishes to be treated like a woman, that's fine by me as long as they are not causing any harm or upset to other people. Live & let live. I will not try to memorized the plethora of pronouns that the trans community seem to indulge in & add to on a daily basis. Plain english has served well for me upto now, and I'm against changing everyday language to please 0.07% of the population. I don't care what you think. What you think too obvious by your bigot posts. You can't even admit it to yourself. You can't seem to grasp that bagging out Lia and other trans people is not addressing the people who allow them to compete despite having an illegal substance. Earlier you indicated that you didn't realise that doping authorities actually exist. I'd suggest you familiarise yourself with their role in sports and then have another look at the situation. 17 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: And finally for the umpteenth time, I do not 'hate' (your word) trans people...how could I? I don't know any. Yeah you do, if you don't want to admit it to yourself, so be it. It's pretty bloody obvious though Did you know that Kaitlyn Jenner is opposed to trans women in sports? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56960011.amp Edited March 26, 2022 by psyche101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted March 26, 2022 #178 Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, psyche101 said: Who says that? You're being one too huh. Unsurprising. Why can't women take anabolic steroids to even muscle and bone mass? That's the advantage testosterone gives a trans woman and as far as I can tell it's illegal. They are breaking their own rules. Isn't that more important? Shouldn't the people supposedly policing doping be asked why they are allowing natural doping? Hating on Lia isn't going to address that factual issue here. It's a genuine question that should be addressed. Yes I’m one as well. I’m one who have the very basic understanding that women can’t compete with men in sports. This is basic long known stuff here man. It’s unfair. And has already demonstrated to be so in every instance it’s been allowed. Complete dominance. Looking at how much the left has brought to the world the attention of womens suffrage, to have to now protection them from you just seems crazy. Sports enhancing drugs? Really? Now you want women to ruin their lives taking steroids so they can try to compete with men? Edited March 26, 2022 by preacherman76 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted March 26, 2022 #179 Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) I think this problem eventually fixes itself. Once enough men hold the all the records in women’s sports, women are just going to stop playing. Seen a study on rats not long ago. Over and over again they would place a dominant rat with a weaker one. Come play time they found that the larger rat on average 30% of the time would allow the weaker rat to win in play fighting. This is because the stronger rat knew that if he always won, the weaker rat would eventually refuse to play. If not for cancel culture it probably would already be taking place. Edited March 26, 2022 by preacherman76 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted March 26, 2022 #180 Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, psyche101 said: Yes you are. Grow up. You don't need to search for bad trans stories. I've already noted I can triple those links and then some about straight men. Of course you could, and it would only prove his point even further. It isn’t about trans men being bad. It’s about saying there are instances where women need to be protected from men. All men. Even if they wear a skirt and put on makeup. This isn’t about hating anyone. It’s about common sense Edited March 26, 2022 by preacherman76 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted March 26, 2022 #181 Share Posted March 26, 2022 What are you confused about duck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted March 26, 2022 #182 Share Posted March 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: What are you confused about duck? Your silly cancel culture comment and predictions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted March 26, 2022 Author #183 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Utah bans transgender athletes from girl’s sports, overriding governor’s veto State legislators in Utah voted to override Governor Spencer Cox’s veto of a bill banning transgender women and girls from participating in women’s sports, despite his powerful veto letter urging “kindness, mercy and compassion.” MSN 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted March 26, 2022 #184 Share Posted March 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: Your silly cancel culture comment and predictions. What’s silly? The women who have complained, especially on the high school level have been bombarded with hate. Even death threats. A few of their best athletes have already decided to no longer play. And really what’s the point? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted March 26, 2022 #185 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Just now, preacherman76 said: What’s silly? The women who have complained, especially on the high school level have been bombarded with hate. Even death threats. A few of their best athletes have already decided to no longer play. And really what’s the point? One swallow does not a summer make 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 26, 2022 #186 Share Posted March 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Golden Duck said: One swallow does not a summer make But it can make for one hell of an evening. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted March 26, 2022 #187 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Just now, Golden Duck said: One swallow does not a summer make It does serve as an example of what happens to women when they complain. Not that it wasn’t obvious to begin with. It’s number one in the playbook of leftwing radicals. Silence, censor, destroy. We see it everyday. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted March 26, 2022 #188 Share Posted March 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: It does serve as an example of what happens to women when they complain. Not that it wasn’t obvious to begin with. It’s number one in the playbook of leftwing radicals. Silence, censor, destroy. We see it everyday. Not really. The opposite happened with Caster Semenya. She was chased out of athletics when rules were enacted so t-tests were only to done for middle distance events, the events she competed in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted March 26, 2022 #189 Share Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Golden Duck said: Not really. The opposite happened with Caster Semenya. She was chased out of athletics when rules were enacted so t-tests were only to done for middle distance events, the events she competed in. What does that have to do with biological women complaining about having to compete against men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted March 26, 2022 #190 Share Posted March 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: What does that have to do with biological women complaining about having to compete against men? Your example doesn't serve as an augury. Only one person uses your account and in this conversation right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 26, 2022 #191 Share Posted March 26, 2022 I wonder if going forward, men who couldn't make the men's basketball team, or soccer team, or baseball team, or golf team... then calls themselves a female and tries out for the woman's parallel team? Seems likely seeing as there will be chance at a scholarship, or contract, where before they had zero chance. Given its acceptable. Then it's smart to take advantage and so men who would otherwise not compete, or get rewarded, will get to compete and earn rewards. We couldn't even say its not fair, because this would be the new rule. Identifying as female would (does?) overrule genetics as the factor of who can compete. Expect men to totally move in and take over woman's sports. It would be stupid not to. In fact, men who are at the top of the men's teams should also compete as woman, as it will be easier to set new records and thus be even more highly rewarded then they were previously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 26, 2022 #192 Share Posted March 26, 2022 3 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Of course you could, and it would only prove his point even further. It isn’t about trans men being bad. It’s about saying there are instances where women need to be protected from men. All men. Even if they wear a skirt and put on makeup. This isn’t about hating anyone. It’s about common sense Interesting to note that women's categories in sports are a fairly recent thing. Previously everyone could compete in the same event. Women's categories were typically introduced when a woman had the temerity to win against the men competing. So seems women's categories aren't their to 'give women a chance to win' but to protect fragile male egos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted March 26, 2022 #193 Share Posted March 26, 2022 2 hours ago, DieChecker said: I wonder if going forward, men who couldn't make the men's basketball team, or soccer team, or baseball team, or golf team... then calls themselves a female and tries out for the woman's parallel team? Seems likely seeing as there will be chance at a scholarship, or contract, where before they had zero chance. Given its acceptable. Then it's smart to take advantage and so men who would otherwise not compete, or get rewarded, will get to compete and earn rewards. We couldn't even say its not fair, because this would be the new rule. Identifying as female would (does?) overrule genetics as the factor of who can compete. Expect men to totally move in and take over woman's sports. It would be stupid not to. In fact, men who are at the top of the men's teams should also compete as woman, as it will be easier to set new records and thus be even more highly rewarded then they were previously. It hasn't happened since Dr Renee Richards sued the US Tennis Association. You must be the first person to think of it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted March 26, 2022 #194 Share Posted March 26, 2022 The left hates women. They are now taking their sporting events away from them. LeBron can now retire from the NBA and be the best player in the WNBA. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 26, 2022 #195 Share Posted March 26, 2022 10 hours ago, Setton said: Interesting to note that women's categories in sports are a fairly recent thing. Previously everyone could compete in the same event. Women's categories were typically introduced when a woman had the temerity to win against the men competing. So seems women's categories aren't their to 'give women a chance to win' but to protect fragile male egos. I think a citation is needed there, please. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted March 26, 2022 #196 Share Posted March 26, 2022 25 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: I think a citation is needed there, please. Yeah they are making that up to fit their agenda. Females have their own leagues so that they can compete fairly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted March 27, 2022 #197 Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: I think a citation is needed there, please. It started around 1870: A History of Women in Sport Prior to Title IX – The Sport Journal So about 50 years before women were allowed to vote: Women's suffrage in the United States - Wikipedia Edit to add: it was around the 1970s that college/competitive sports started to happen for women. Edited March 27, 2022 by Gromdor edit to add 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted March 27, 2022 #198 Share Posted March 27, 2022 18 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Yes I’m one as well. I’m one who have the very basic understanding that women can’t compete with men in sports. This is basic long known stuff here man. It’s unfair. And has already demonstrated to be so in every instance it’s been allowed. Complete dominance. Good god you are painfully slow. Take this slower maybe Why do men have an advantage? 18 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Looking at how much the left has brought to the world the attention of womens suffrage, to have to now protection them from you just seems crazy. This is hysterical. Slow down. Who are you saying I am protecting? 18 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Sports enhancing drugs? Really? Now you want women to ruin their lives taking steroids so they can try to compete with men? This is so backwards it made me cringe. When you read a post, I get the impression none of it sinks in. All your head is doing is thinking of a retort. Slow down and take what I'm saying in. There's an infraction of the rules here. Can you grasp that? It's why trans athletes gave an advantage. A natural performance enhancing substance. It's illegal according to the USADA and the WADA. Do you get that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted March 27, 2022 #199 Share Posted March 27, 2022 15 hours ago, DieChecker said: I wonder if going forward, men who couldn't make the men's basketball team, or soccer team, or baseball team, or golf team... then calls themselves a female and tries out for the woman's parallel team? Seems likely seeing as there will be chance at a scholarship, or contract, where before they had zero chance. Given its acceptable. Then it's smart to take advantage and so men who would otherwise not compete, or get rewarded, will get to compete and earn rewards. We couldn't even say its not fair, because this would be the new rule. Identifying as female would (does?) overrule genetics as the factor of who can compete. Expect men to totally move in and take over woman's sports. It would be stupid not to. In fact, men who are at the top of the men's teams should also compete as woman, as it will be easier to set new records and thus be even more highly rewarded then they were previously. Really? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted March 27, 2022 #200 Share Posted March 27, 2022 11 hours ago, Myles said: The left hates women. They are now taking their sporting events away from them. LeBron can now retire from the NBA and be the best player in the WNBA. You're like the UM version of the one liner that no one really pays attention to. I mean, have you ever offered anything of substance to any conversation at all? The left hates women. The left is racist. Biden's an idiot. That's a summary of every single one of your posts. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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