Silver Posted March 30, 2021 #1 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted March 30, 2021 #2 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Troll 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted March 30, 2021 Author #3 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, zep73 said: Troll I actually expect a LOT of support! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted March 30, 2021 #4 Share Posted March 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, ted hughes said: You believe your government should be able to force everyone to be vaccinated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAyMO Posted March 30, 2021 #5 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, OverSword said: You believe your government should be able to force everyone to be vaccinated? Lets say not. But if an individual in the UK refuses the vaccination, and then gets COVID19 maybe he / she should be made to foot their own hospital bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 30, 2021 #6 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I don't agree everyone should be forced. But I 100% support refusing services, including treatment for covid on the NHS, to those who turn down the vaccine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted March 30, 2021 #7 Share Posted March 30, 2021 What way would you like to force them? Fines, police, excluding from school ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAyMO Posted March 30, 2021 #8 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Setton said: I don't agree everyone should be forced. But I 100% support refusing services, including treatment for covid on the NHS, to those who turn down the vaccine. good point, they'd could still be carriers, ban them from buses, pubs, workplaces anywhere were people congregate Edited March 30, 2021 by RAyMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted March 30, 2021 Author #9 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Won't need coercion, it'll be voluntary 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Liquid Gardens Posted March 30, 2021 #10 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I also support ted. (but that's because I read the OP again...) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt221 Posted March 30, 2021 #11 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Not force so much as gentle persuade ............. with police fines jail shipped of to far distant lands 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted March 30, 2021 #12 Share Posted March 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, RAyMO said: Lets say not. But if an individual in the UK refuses the vaccination, and then gets COVID19 maybe he / she should be made to foot their own hospital bills. Do they pay the taxes which pay for healthcare? Yes they do so have already paid. 15 minutes ago, Setton said: I don't agree everyone should be forced. But I 100% support refusing services, including treatment for covid on the NHS, to those who turn down the vaccine. How civilized. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted March 30, 2021 #13 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, RAyMO said: good point, they'd could still be carriers, ban them from buses, pubs, workplaces anywhere were people congregate Good luck with that. How would anyone know when they walked into a random pub or got on a bus? Oh I know how!! Edited March 30, 2021 by OverSword 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 30, 2021 #14 Share Posted March 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, OverSword said: How civilized. More civilised than killing other people because of your own stupidity. If there was a way of proving responsibility, I'd have all those who've broken the rules and infected others tried for GBH and manslaughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted March 30, 2021 #15 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Setton said: More civilised than killing other people because of your own stupidity. If there was a way of proving responsibility, I'd have all those who've broken the rules and infected others tried for GBH and manslaughter. Yeah!!! Deny them medical attention!! that'll learn 'em!! Frickin barbarians!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 30, 2021 #16 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, OverSword said: Yeah!!! Deny them medical attention!! that'll learn 'em!! Frickin barbarians!!! Only on the NHS and only for covid. They had the chance to avoid it and didn't take it. Why should I or the doctors and nurses they'll infect pay for their stupidity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted March 30, 2021 #17 Share Posted March 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Setton said: Only on the NHS and only for covid. They had the chance to avoid it and didn't take it. Why should I or the doctors and nurses they'll infect pay for their stupidity? Because it's their job and I assume the person is a British tax payer so is paying his part. Don't get me wrong I'll get vaccinated as soon as I am allowed, but I'm not too worried about the very small minority of people that won't, just as I'm not worried about people that don't get the annual flu vaccination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted March 30, 2021 #18 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ted hughes said: At the most you're going to get about 70% support. 1 hour ago, RAyMO said: Lets say not. But if an individual in the UK refuses the vaccination, and then gets COVID19 maybe he / she should be made to foot their own hospital bills. 1 hour ago, Setton said: I don't agree everyone should be forced. But I 100% support refusing services, including treatment for covid on the NHS, to those who turn down the vaccine. People have already paid for NHS care in advance 1 hour ago, RAyMO said: good point, they'd could still be carriers, ban them from buses, pubs, workplaces anywhere were people congregate But if you're fully vaccinated why would you worry about those who aren't? You won't be able to catch covid . . . . right? And people who have been vaccinated can still be carriers too. 55 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said: I also support ted. (but that's because I read the OP again...) And what insight did you gain second time around? 39 minutes ago, Setton said: More civilised than killing other people because of your own stupidity. If there was a way of proving responsibility, I'd have all those who've broken the rules and infected others tried for GBH and manslaughter. Drunk drivers? Heavy smokers? How about having the same stiff penalties for them? 33 minutes ago, Setton said: Only on the NHS and only for covid. They had the chance to avoid it and didn't take it. Why should I or the doctors and nurses they'll infect pay for their stupidity? You do realise that simply by following the current precautions(masks, isolation, washing hands etc), those who do not have the vaccination will not be passing the virus on to anybody? Edited March 30, 2021 by ouija ouija 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted March 30, 2021 #19 Share Posted March 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, OverSword said: Yeah!!! Deny them medical attention!! that'll learn 'em!! Frickin barbarians!!! Odd, that some people who support universal healthcare as a human right are so quick to take it away from people 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted March 30, 2021 #20 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Setton said: Only on the NHS and only for covid. They had the chance to avoid it and didn't take it. Why should I or the doctors and nurses they'll infect pay for their stupidity? While we are on the topic of denying people healthcare because of their personal choices, maybe we should deny chain smokers, alcoholics, and drug addicts from receiving organ donations? Edited March 30, 2021 by spartan max2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted March 30, 2021 #21 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: Odd, that some people who support universal healthcare as a human right are so quick to take it away from people So weird how some people don't recognize their own fascist tendencies. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted March 30, 2021 #22 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, zep73 said: Troll Myabe comedian instead of troll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted March 30, 2021 #23 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, RAyMO said: Lets say not. But if an individual in the UK refuses the vaccination, and then gets COVID19 maybe he / she should be made to foot their own hospital bills. What about people who have an illness or condition that would cause them danger if they got the vaccine. There are people like that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted March 30, 2021 #24 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: Myabe comedian instead of troll Didn't notice until you said that lol. Funny how the mind works. Edited March 30, 2021 by spartan max2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted March 30, 2021 #25 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, spartan max2 said: Didn't notice until you said that lol. Funny how the mind works. It's just that so far this week everything he has posted has made me laugh hard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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