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Ogopogo is ours, indigenous Canadians say

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Eldorado

People living on the shores of Okanagan Lake have long said that dark, curling waves signal the presence of Ogopogo, a monstrous serpent lurking beneath the surface.

A handful claim to have seen the long green body and horse-like head of Canada’s own Loch Ness monster.

They tell stories of a creature that once nearly killed a settler when it dragged his horse into the depths.

And every few years, new video footage renews excitement that Ogopogo has been found.

Indigenous residents tell a very different story: one of a scared water spirit whose identity has been warped by outsiders.

UK Guardian article

2019 Ogopogo sighting:

 

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Jon the frog

They are filming the waves ?

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the13bats

"Indigenous" people said it "the monster" was a make believe boogie man to keeps kids going into deep water,

However i do believe their are some large eels and sturgen in that lake,  both could look very creepy.

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Earl.Of.Trumps

Yet another, in a long line of videos of really nice waves. Oy.

 

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HandsomeGorilla
3 hours ago, the13bats said:

"Indigenous" people said it "the monster" was a make believe boogie man to keeps kids going into deep water,

However i do believe their are some large eels and sturgen in that lake,  both could look very creepy.

Lol despite this people will believe what they want

It's intellectual conceit, a conviction 

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the13bats
16 minutes ago, HandsomeGorilla said:

Lol despite this people will believe what they want

It's intellectual conceit, a conviction 

Im thus case ogopogo does bring in $$$ as does champ nessie etc.

We have a hugh lake here lake eustis and next city over Tavares is sky plane capital they call it, i told tina if i ran a 5ft rc "eussie" in the lake a few times in a year we would be another home to a lake monster.

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Trelane
9 hours ago, Jon the frog said:

They are filming the waves ?

And photographing….for decades.

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keithisco
16 hours ago, HandsomeGorilla said:

Lol despite this people will believe what they want

It's intellectual conceit, a conviction 

I do not understand why you lay the claim of "intellectual deceit" at the feet of Indigenous Peoples. I believe that they have much to teach us

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HandsomeGorilla
10 minutes ago, keithisco said:

I do not understand why you lay the claim of "intellectual deceit" at the feet of Indigenous Peoples. I believe that they have much to teach us

Lol what are you talking about? I meant the conceit of knowing it isn't a lake monster, but people still believing what they want, anyway 

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Myles

I think the story belongs to anyone who wants it.  

I think it is poppycock, but anyone who wants to use it, whether indigenous or not can have it.  

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Earl.Of.Trumps
14 minutes ago, Myles said:

I think the story belongs to anyone who wants it.  

I think it is poppycock, but anyone who wants to use it, whether indigenous or not can have it.  

 

I agree Myles, people can see what they want. I saw some waves on a lake.  :cry: Just saying

 

 

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Myles
10 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

 

I agree Myles, people can see what they want. I saw some waves on a lake.  :cry: Just saying

 

 

I didn't read this to in depth.

Are the indigenous people wanting to claim rights to the "monster".   Profit from the sale of related items?   

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Earl.Of.Trumps

I didn't read it, @Myles - just like to look at pictures 

 

 

Oekaki, Drawing, Children, Graffiti

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jethrofloyd

I wonder whose is Nessie ?

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glorybebe

If they can claim Ogopogo, they can claim rights to the use of it's image.  And Ogopogo is used on all kinds of places/things in the Okanagan.  It is partly their heritage, but a lot if $$$, too.  Maybe the natives are tired of losing their culture and want to take it back.  

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the13bats
1 hour ago, jethrofloyd said:

I wonder whose is Nessie ?

I admit on vacation to nessie land i flushed an eel down the toilet.

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the13bats
39 minutes ago, glorybebe said:

If they can claim Ogopogo, they can claim rights to the use of it's image.  And Ogopogo is used on all kinds of places/things in the Okanagan.  It is partly their heritage, but a lot if $$$, too.  Maybe the natives are tired of losing their culture and want to take it back.  

Is it about heritage and culture or $$$,

I think that every time i go into the tampa casino.

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keithisco

The truth is... who cares? Ogopogo has only been monetised by Chancers, the land taken by Settlers... The Barnum and Baileys of the modern world want to claim ownership but the truth is nobody can own an aquatic creature.

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Nobu

The waves are interesting.

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