spartan max2 Posted April 8, 2021 #26 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) I do want to say, because I know there are people who are just against trans in general that like to see the sports contraversey to just be against trans people, that I do truly empathize with the struggle trans youth have to go through. And then to be told they can't do sports like every other youth can really does have to suck. Like I get it. I just want things to be as fair as can be. Edited April 8, 2021 by spartan max2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted April 8, 2021 #27 Share Posted April 8, 2021 54 minutes ago, Agent0range said: Well, I wanted to say males have a clear advantage, but I was trying to respect the pronoun. Biologically born males have a clear advantage the MAJORITY of the time. The Army PT test study is not a small sample size. It involves hundreds of thousands of physically fit (for the most part) individuals. The fact that women fail at a 6 times higher rate than men while having to meet lesser standards is a pretty good indicator biologically born males have an advantage. Now again, I have no problem with trans females competing in high school sports. High school sports is supposed to be fun, and helps with growth in to adulthood. But, after high school there is too much at stake. There is a lot at stake for high school students as well. Especially the last couple years. My son plays football. It isn’t about fun at all. It’s about serious competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted April 8, 2021 #28 Share Posted April 8, 2021 5 hours ago, aztek said: i never thought i'd be agreeing with PM here. but he is absolutely correct, Really? I agree with most of the things you say here. Thought we were pretty like minded politically. Oh well, whatever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted April 8, 2021 Author #29 Share Posted April 8, 2021 21 hours ago, Myles said: We are discussing it because some idiots are fine with males playing in female sports. I have daughters who played sports and it was better for them to compete against biological females. Sorry for my previous post, it was a misinterpretation on my part. In reality, I do completely agree with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted April 8, 2021 #30 Share Posted April 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: There is a lot at stake for high school students as well. Especially the last couple years. My son plays football. It isn’t about fun at all. It’s about serious competition. It's how a lot of kids get college scholarships. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted April 8, 2021 #31 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, preacherman76 said: Really? I agree with most of the things you say here. Thought we were pretty like minded politically. Oh well, whatever. thank you, same here, just to be clear, you believe tg women should be competing against biological females? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted April 8, 2021 #32 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, aztek said: thank you, same here, just to be clear, you believe tg women should be competing against biological females? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted April 8, 2021 #33 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, preacherman76 said: No me neither, neither does PM , isn't this what this thread is about? Edited April 8, 2021 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted April 8, 2021 #34 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, aztek said: me neither, neither does PM Oh wait lol I thought PM was me lol 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted April 8, 2021 #35 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Sorry for the confusion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted April 8, 2021 #36 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Agent0range said: Well, I wanted to say males have a clear advantage, but I was trying to respect the pronoun. Biologically born males have a clear advantage the MAJORITY of the time. The Army PT test study is not a small sample size. It involves hundreds of thousands of physically fit (for the most part) individuals. The fact that women fail at a 6 times higher rate than men while having to meet lesser standards is a pretty good indicator biologically born males have an advantage. Now again, I have no problem with trans females competing in high school sports. High school sports is supposed to be fun, and helps with growth in to adulthood. But, after high school there is too much at stake. You are right. Professional paid sports no. Recreational, no problem. I should have stated that from the start. Thank you for correcting my post. Obliged I am. Hank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperionxvii Posted April 8, 2021 #37 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Well, they banned testosterone use in pro sports and now they want to allow it, or not? Which is it? They actually put testosterone on the scheduled drug list. Thanks, Joe Biden, you most loved president of all time, and all around statist hack. So, we make a naturally occurring hormone a scheduled drug (SCIENCE!) and then make use of it to cheat in sports, a right. Justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted April 8, 2021 #38 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Really? I agree with most of the things you say here. Thought we were pretty like minded politically. Oh well, whatever. I took it as Piers Morgan in the article lol. Oooppps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted April 9, 2021 #39 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, glorybebe said: I took it as Piers Morgan in the article lol. Oooppps It was. I’m an idiot lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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