Eldorado Posted April 7, 2021 #1 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Particle mystery deepens, as physicists confirm that the muon is more magnetic than predicted Science Mag BBC 4 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted April 9, 2021 #2 Share Posted April 9, 2021 This is the good stuff. The itsy-bitsy muon. Between black matter, gray matter, and now this,. I'd have to say there is an awful lot about this universe we don't know. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted April 9, 2021 #3 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Papa was right all along! 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted April 9, 2021 #4 Share Posted April 9, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 8:49 PM, Eldorado said: Particle mystery deepens, as physicists confirm that the muon is more magnetic than predicted Science Mag BBC Your article is outdated. Its up to 1 in 2.4 million chance its a fluke and once it hits 3 million its official - there is at least one unknown atomic particle. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 9, 2021 #5 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Stiff said: Papa was right all along! If this is a reference to who I think it is, this statement should 99.9999999% never exist. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted April 9, 2021 #6 Share Posted April 9, 2021 We always have a lot to learn... 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted April 9, 2021 #7 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Interesting. We've known for some time that quantum mechanics and relativity theory are both inadequate, because, while appearing largely correct, neither can account for some of the implications of the other. Since, unlike the other three basic forces of nature, there is no quantum solution for gravitation, I wonder if this suspected 'new force' could, instead, be the quantum basis of gravitational fields. It's seeming magnetic interaction with muons may signal a unification of gravity and electromagnetism. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted April 9, 2021 #8 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, bison said: Interesting. We've known for some time that quantum mechanics and relativity theory are both inadequate, because, while appearing largely correct, neither can account for some of the implications of the other. Since, unlike the other three basic forces of nature, there is no quantum solution for gravitation, I wonder if this suspected 'new force' could, instead, be the quantum basis of gravitational fields. It's seeming magnetic interaction with muons may signal a unification of gravity and electromagnetism. The problem between both of them is that the maths they each use is incompatible with the other. The Muon Electron G-2 evidence is that they know how all other atomic particles affect its spin. Yet, combined, its spin is affected slightly more that it should be indicating either a problem with the experiment or an unknown atomic particle. They are almost at the 1 in 3,500,000 probability of it not being an error. Thats the threshold for the declaration of a new particle. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted April 10, 2021 #9 Share Posted April 10, 2021 22 hours ago, bison said: Interesting. We've known for some time that quantum mechanics and relativity theory are both inadequate, because, while appearing largely correct, neither can account for some of the implications of the other. Since, unlike the other three basic forces of nature, there is no quantum solution for gravitation, I wonder if this suspected 'new force' could, instead, be the quantum basis of gravitational fields. It's seeming magnetic interaction with muons may signal a unification of gravity and electromagnetism. "Beddy beddy interestink", bison. A quantum solution to gravity - and maybe a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted April 11, 2021 #10 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Given the relative weakness of gravitation, compared to the other forces, it seems reasonable that gravitons, if they exist, would have a very small effect on the measurement of the magnetic moment of muons. This is, of course, just the sort of effect they have found, repeatedly. If gravity can affect a particle with a magnetic charge, it would. it seems open up the possibility of a means of unifying gravity with electromagnetism. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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