rashore Posted April 9, 2021 #1 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Quote Archaeology has uncovered many secrets from the ancient world. But the Earth has a bad habit of eroding the past, making it difficult to piece together the stories of our ancestors. In the last couple of centuries, we've discovered Roman artifacts in the Americas, found ancient Greek cities in what was once thought to be the backwater of Ancient Greece, puzzled over the success of the Incan economy, and have long searched for the core of history's first true empire. These mysteries prove that humanity needs to keep digging to uncover the truth, lest we repeat our past mistakes. Here are 10 mysteries of ancient civilizations. https://www.toptenz.net/10-mysteries-of-ancient-civilizations.php 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted April 10, 2021 #2 Share Posted April 10, 2021 The Brazil shipwreck story is false : https://ahotcupofjoe.net/2019/08/pre-columbian-explorers-in-the-americas-the-flaccid-evidence/ Sumerian language origins might be a mystery, but being one of the first language written down its not that surprising. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted April 10, 2021 #3 Share Posted April 10, 2021 (edited) Whew. That entry on Sumerian is /rough/. More errors than sentences -- and it can't even keep straight whether Akkadian is pre- or post-Sumerian. (It's post.) Man, Rashore, when it comes to starting new threads, quantity is /not/ better than quality. Maybe put starting new ones here on a hiatus til you can verify at least 50% of the information passed along in them isn't bulldroppings. --Jaylemurph Edited April 10, 2021 by jaylemurph 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted April 10, 2021 #4 Share Posted April 10, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, jaylemurph said: Whew. That entry on Sumerian is /rough/. More errors than sentences -- and it can't even keep straight whether Akkadian is pre- or post-Sumerian. (It's post.) Man, Rashore, when it comes to starting new threads, quantity is /not/ better than quality. Maybe put starting new ones here on a hiatus til you can verify at least 50% of the information passed along in them isn't bulldroppings. --Jaylemurph Yes I totally agree with you, have a mostly functional photographic memory, that portion and others are very inaccurate and confusing. I have studied the Sumerian culture and the written texts associated with it and when you consider that the Sumerians invented Cuneiform and that it is the earliest written form of language known so far the article is confusing and in my opinion kind of worthless. So actually there is nothing mysterious about it, in fact the only thing mysterious is where the authors got their information from! Peace Edited April 10, 2021 by Manwon Lender 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted April 10, 2021 #5 Share Posted April 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Manwon Lender said: Yes I totally agree with you, have a mostly functional photographic memory, that portion and others are very inaccurate and confusing. I have studied the Sumerian culture and the written texts associated with it and when you consider that the Sumerians invented Cuneiform and that it is the earliest written form of language known so far the article is confusing and in my opinion kind of worthless. So actually there is nothing mysterious about it, in fact the only thing mysterious is where the authors got their information from! Peace At least the authors don't mention the Anunnaki. Harte 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 10, 2021 #6 Share Posted April 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Harte said: At least the authors don't mention the Anunnaki. Harte Hey, that word is only used in SERIOUS articles..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 10, 2021 #7 Share Posted April 10, 2021 From the OP: "Roman artifacts in the Americas". What Roman artifacts? Some Roman artifacts found by a European archeologist, and brought to the Americas, and lost at sea? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted April 10, 2021 #8 Share Posted April 10, 2021 The page from link in the OP got covered over by a "please subscribe to us" trap. oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted April 11, 2021 Author #9 Share Posted April 11, 2021 19 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: The page from link in the OP got covered over by a "please subscribe to us" trap. oh well That's unfortunate. Here's the list for you. 10. The Romans may have discovered the New World 9. Ancient Roman mystery cults 8. The lost city of Paititi 7. The economy of the Incas 6. The lost city of Tenea 5. The mystery of Teotihuacan 4. The mystery of the origin of the Sumerian Language 3. The fall of the Akkadian Empire 2. The lost ruins of Vlochos 1. The city of Akkad Sounds like so far from responses that numbers 10 and 4 are either debunked, or not a mystery really worth discussing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted April 11, 2021 #10 Share Posted April 11, 2021 #1 is wrong and #7 is also wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted April 11, 2021 Author #11 Share Posted April 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, Kenemet said: #1 is wrong and #7 is also wrong. How are they wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobu Posted April 12, 2021 #12 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/9/2021 at 12:42 PM, rashore said: https://www.toptenz.net/10-mysteries-of-ancient-civilizations.php I like the Rockwall Texas “wall”. I get that geologists believe it’s natural, but I find it crazy that the name of rockwall came from the Indians in the region. I also find it strange that we do not see more of this natural phenomena in other areas. I just like it. Good story from old americana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted April 12, 2021 Author #13 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Nobu said: I like the Rockwall Texas “wall”. I get that geologists believe it’s natural, but I find it crazy that the name of rockwall came from the Indians in the region. I also find it strange that we do not see more of this natural phenomena in other areas. I just like it. Good story from old americana. Had to go look that up... you mean this? https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/07/17/the-rock-wall-of-rockwall-texas/ It looks interesting, but I for sure would need to learn more before forming an opinion about it. Thanks for adding it into the topic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windowpane Posted April 12, 2021 #14 Share Posted April 12, 2021 49 minutes ago, rashore said: Had to go look that up... you mean this? https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/07/17/the-rock-wall-of-rockwall-texas/ It looks interesting, but I for sure would need to learn more before forming an opinion about it. ... Some informative links. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted April 12, 2021 #15 Share Posted April 12, 2021 12 hours ago, Nobu said: I like the Rockwall Texas “wall”. I get that geologists believe it’s natural, but I find it crazy that the name of rockwall came from the Indians in the region. I also find it strange that we do not see more of this natural phenomena in other areas. I just like it. Good story from old americana. I live thereabouts. Native Americans didn't call the place "rock wall" (the tribes in the area didn't make walls, y'know.) There are many other similar formations around the world, often with their own local legends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted April 12, 2021 #16 Share Posted April 12, 2021 22 hours ago, rashore said: How are they wrong? The economy of the Incas (there's literally hundreds of papers on this) http://www.discover-peru.org/inca-economy-society/ -- however, #1 does turn out to be "unknown"... so I was wrong about its location being known (beyond a rather general location) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted April 12, 2021 Author #17 Share Posted April 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Kenemet said: The economy of the Incas (there's literally hundreds of papers on this) http://www.discover-peru.org/inca-economy-society/ -- however, #1 does turn out to be "unknown"... so I was wrong about its location being known (beyond a rather general location) Thanks for the site... It's one I've used before, when I was starting to brush up some SA cooking skills and doing Peru. Gosh I love Peruvian cooking, still on a quest to find good aji amarillo seed so I can grow my own and quit buying paste. No other pepper subs right for sauces and cau-cau stew. That was a while back, and didn't even think about it till you provided the link above. Good to remind me of it, it can primer me up on some of the Inca stuff. And #1 might still be interesting for future conversations. Ok, #10, 7, 4 and 1 done. Leaves #9 ,8 ,6 ,5 ,3 , and 2. I do know a bit about #9, that falls a lot more into the myths and legends and sometimes religion sort of lore wheelhouse I'm more familiar with, so I'd post a topic about that sort of thing in those sections and not here. #5 I'm pretty sure is really a mystery, and one that comes up sometimes in this section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted April 15, 2021 Author #18 Share Posted April 15, 2021 A few days later and I I want to tackle more mysteries here. Been noting and starting to train my search algorithms better. Thanks so far with explaining the list, it will help me post better in the future Whats left is.. 8. The lost city of Paititi: Inca city of gold, the lost world. Is this related to El Dorado in some way? A case of translocating folklore? 6. The lost city of Tenea. 2. The lost ruins of Vlochos 3. The fall of the Akkadian Empire and 1. The city of Akkad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 15, 2021 #19 Share Posted April 15, 2021 8. Legend and wishful thinking. However, Such a city built by the Inca or someone else and may have existed and is probably not been found because of the local (jungle) and being built of wood instead of stone 6. Tenea doesn't appear to be lost 2. Yep a town is there but the name remains uncertain (AFAIR) 3. This is more a historical question and guess work over why Akkad had fallen. The city itself remains unlocated which is not unusual given the number of un dug and badly dug sites in that region (thousands). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted April 16, 2021 Author #20 Share Posted April 16, 2021 OK! So at the end of the list, seems like only Teotihuacan and Akkad are really mysterious. Origin of Sumarian language and real name of Vlochos are kind of mysterious. The rest aren't all that mysterious, some pretty mundane explanations for most of it. I might try to tinker around and see if this whole golden city stuff is translocating lore or not, but that's not for this section of UM, like the Roman cults thing isn't really for this section either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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