Duke Wellington Posted April 21, 2021 #1 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Lets grab ourselves a brew and sit the mug on the desk in front of ourselves. We are going to undertake a simple exercise with it. People can do if for 5 minutes or devote hours to it, its their choice. I want you to ask yourself what you can figure out about the rest of the universe from the mug? I`ll start you off with three: 1. You can tell that because the mug is in front of you that it exists no where else in reality. 2. You can tell from its design precision a machine exists somewhere that was used to make it. 3. You can tell that a power source exists somewhere else because its contents are hot. If you were to spend hours, weeks, even months doing it, you can quite literally figure out 1000s of things about the universe from the mug. Now people have no problem undertaking this exercise even if it might seem boring and pointless. But lets look at our minds. Lets take a thought that keeps appearing in our minds and seek to uncover all we can about the rest of the universe from it. Its a simple exercise, and we can figure out 1000s of things from each thought too if we put the time in. When we have built up a list we are going to review them for interdependences. Everyone knows what cause and effect is, but there are other forms of causation known to exist such as interdependent origination. That is two things, separated from each other, both require the other to exist at the same time in order to exist. A mug existing in front of you not existing elsewhere in reality is a type of interdependence. The purpose of the exercise is to reveal to you that your mind is not separate from reality. That the thoughts that arise in your mind share interdependent origination with things elsewhere in reality. A thought exists and something else exists in reality, both have to exist at the same time to enable their own existence. You cannot have one without the other. And it reveals to use how our thoughts create, and why we should manage our thoughts. Once there read the religious book of your choice (like the Bible). Whether its been put together by super geniuses, or actually dictated by a creator, there is wisdom in there about the way to live your life which works of interdependent origination. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted April 21, 2021 #2 Share Posted April 21, 2021 And that concludes the Bible study group for today. Thank you very much for stopping by. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 21, 2021 #3 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I'm bored. Thanks for making me sleepy. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horta Posted April 21, 2021 #4 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Lets grab ourselves a brew and sit the mug on the desk in front of ourselves. We are going to undertake a simple exercise with it. People can do if for 5 minutes or devote hours to it, its their choice. I want you to ask yourself what you can figure out about the rest of the universe from the mug? I`ll start you off with three: 1. You can tell that because the mug is in front of you that it exists no where else in reality. 2. You can tell from its design precision a machine exists somewhere that was used to make it. 3. You can tell that a power source exists somewhere else because its contents are hot. If you were to spend hours, weeks, even months doing it, you can quite literally figure out 1000s of things about the universe from the mug. Now people have no problem undertaking this exercise even if it might seem boring and pointless. But lets look at our minds. Lets take a thought that keeps appearing in our minds and seek to uncover all we can about the rest of the universe from it. Its a simple exercise, and we can figure out 1000s of things from each thought too if we put the time in. When we have built up a list we are going to review them for interdependences. Everyone knows what cause and effect is, but there are other forms of causation known to exist such as interdependent origination. That is two things, separated from each other, both require the other to exist at the same time in order to exist. A mug existing in front of you not existing elsewhere in reality is a type of interdependence. The purpose of the exercise is to reveal to you that your mind is not separate from reality. That the thoughts that arise in your mind share interdependent origination with things elsewhere in reality. A thought exists and something else exists in reality, both have to exist at the same time to enable their own existence. You cannot have one without the other. And it reveals to use how our thoughts create, and why we should manage our thoughts. Once there read the religious book of your choice (like the Bible). Whether its been put together by super geniuses, or actually dictated by a creator, there is wisdom in there about the way to live your life which works of interdependent origination. god did it. Edited April 21, 2021 by Horta to remove duplicate quote. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted April 21, 2021 #5 Share Posted April 21, 2021 And now, a tune from the original duo of reality and mind... Take it away Johnny and Willie... Quote [00.02:24] ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted April 21, 2021 #6 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) Oops. Edited April 21, 2021 by ChrLzs Duplicate post - stooopid editor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted April 21, 2021 #7 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: it might seem boring and pointless Yup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horta Posted April 21, 2021 #8 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Once there read the religious book of your choice (like the Bible). Whether its been put together by super geniuses, or actually dictated by a creator, there is wisdom in there about the way to live your life which works of interdependent origination. Will the following do? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted April 21, 2021 #9 Share Posted April 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, Horta said: Will the following do? Oh the UB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horta Posted April 21, 2021 #10 Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, psyche101 said: Oh the UB? Nah, an even better "source" of wisdom. Marshall Applewhite. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted April 21, 2021 #11 Share Posted April 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, Horta said: Nah, an even better "source" of wisdom. Marshall Applewhite. Space Jesuses are more common than I thought it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted April 21, 2021 #12 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I don't really know why I would investigate reality if I do not mind it. jmccr8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted April 21, 2021 #13 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Horta said: Nah, an even better "source" of wisdom. Marshall Applewhite. Oh yeah doh, doe, dough a deer a female deer Doh applesauce, applebutter, ahem applewhite his recipe for rapture included self castration im not really interested in finding his God by hacking my kiwi off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 21, 2021 #14 Share Posted April 21, 2021 In just 5 minutes a day, you too can obtain enlightenment through mug meditation. Just make 10 easy payments $99.99 and it can be yours, order NOW! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer screamer Posted April 21, 2021 #15 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) Quote I`ll start you off with three: 1. You can tell that because the mug is in front of you that it exists no where else in reality. 2. You can tell from its design precision a machine exists somewhere that was used to make it. 3. You can tell that a power source exists somewhere else because its contents are hot. What about what the mug was made out of? The material is part of the plane we are standing on and sustains life; for now. Mind creates everything because it all comes from thought. Humans are creative, but only a certain few can really fulfil their drreams, why? because another idea from mind moves pieces of paper around. A piece of paper is stationary until mind moves it. Basically, it's all mind control. When you see a computer, car, appliances, anything created, there has to be a mnaual to tell you how it works. Someone created their own way of doing something so they have to help you understand how to use the device. A manual is a God send sometimes to show how things work. The bible is no different. There are rules to this game we are in, the trouble is no one reads them anymore. Edited April 21, 2021 by Dreamer screamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 21, 2021 #16 Share Posted April 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Lets grab ourselves a brew and sit the mug on the desk in front of ourselves. We are going to undertake a simple exercise with it. People can do if for 5 minutes or devote hours to it, its their choice. I want you to ask yourself what you can figure out about the rest of the universe from the mug? I`ll start you off with three: 1. You can tell that because the mug is in front of you that it exists no where else in reality. 2. You can tell from its design precision a machine exists somewhere that was used to make it. 3. You can tell that a power source exists somewhere else because its contents are hot. If you were to spend hours, weeks, even months doing it, you can quite literally figure out 1000s of things about the universe from the mug. Now people have no problem undertaking this exercise even if it might seem boring and pointless. But lets look at our minds. Lets take a thought that keeps appearing in our minds and seek to uncover all we can about the rest of the universe from it. Its a simple exercise, and we can figure out 1000s of things from each thought too if we put the time in. When we have built up a list we are going to review them for interdependences. Everyone knows what cause and effect is, but there are other forms of causation known to exist such as interdependent origination. That is two things, separated from each other, both require the other to exist at the same time in order to exist. A mug existing in front of you not existing elsewhere in reality is a type of interdependence. The purpose of the exercise is to reveal to you that your mind is not separate from reality. That the thoughts that arise in your mind share interdependent origination with things elsewhere in reality. A thought exists and something else exists in reality, both have to exist at the same time to enable their own existence. You cannot have one without the other. And it reveals to use how our thoughts create, and why we should manage our thoughts. Once there read the religious book of your choice (like the Bible). Whether its been put together by super geniuses, or actually dictated by a creator, there is wisdom in there about the way to live your life which works of interdependent origination. So run of the mild contemplation exercise. Even felines can do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted April 21, 2021 #17 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Thanks to @Cookie Monster I am now a mugger. Now I have to go spread the word by mugging people. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 21, 2021 #18 Share Posted April 21, 2021 46 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said: Thanks to @Cookie Monster I am now a mugger. Now I have to go spread the word by mugging people. Are you a mugger or are you the mug, are you both the mug and mugger??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted April 21, 2021 #19 Share Posted April 21, 2021 11 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Lets grab ourselves a brew and sit the mug on the desk in front of ourselves. We are going to undertake a simple exercise with it. People can do if for 5 minutes or devote hours to it, its their choice. I want you to ask yourself what you can figure out about the rest of the universe from the mug? I`ll start you off with three: 1. You can tell that because the mug is in front of you that it exists no where else in reality. 2. You can tell from its design precision a machine exists somewhere that was used to make it. 3. You can tell that a power source exists somewhere else because its contents are hot. If you were to spend hours, weeks, even months doing it, you can quite literally figure out 1000s of things about the universe from the mug. Now people have no problem undertaking this exercise even if it might seem boring and pointless. But lets look at our minds. Lets take a thought that keeps appearing in our minds and seek to uncover all we can about the rest of the universe from it. Its a simple exercise, and we can figure out 1000s of things from each thought too if we put the time in. When we have built up a list we are going to review them for interdependences. Everyone knows what cause and effect is, but there are other forms of causation known to exist such as interdependent origination. That is two things, separated from each other, both require the other to exist at the same time in order to exist. A mug existing in front of you not existing elsewhere in reality is a type of interdependence. The purpose of the exercise is to reveal to you that your mind is not separate from reality. That the thoughts that arise in your mind share interdependent origination with things elsewhere in reality. A thought exists and something else exists in reality, both have to exist at the same time to enable their own existence. You cannot have one without the other. And it reveals to use how our thoughts create, and why we should manage our thoughts. Once there read the religious book of your choice (like the Bible). Whether its been put together by super geniuses, or actually dictated by a creator, there is wisdom in there about the way to live your life which works of interdependent origination. put together by super geniuses, or actually dictated by a creator- are these the only two choices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted April 21, 2021 #20 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 hours ago, ted hughes said: put together by super geniuses, or actually dictated by a creator- are these the only two choices? I can think of a few more options. For example wouldn't a super genius make sure that the text was clear instead of open to all manner of interpretation ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted April 21, 2021 #21 Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Xeno-Fish said: Are you a mugger or are you the mug, are you both the mug and mugger??? I am one with the mug. Put some coffee in the mug and you have the Trinity. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 21, 2021 #22 Share Posted April 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said: I am one with the mug. Put some coffee in the mug and you have the Trinity. The Caffeine God be praised. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted April 21, 2021 #23 Share Posted April 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Xeno-Fish said: The Caffeine God be praised. Spoken like a true mugger. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted April 21, 2021 #24 Share Posted April 21, 2021 17 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: The purpose of the exercise is to reveal to you that your mind is not separate from reality. How could it be any other way? We don’t need the exercise to understand this point. Whatever reality is, we are obviously a part of it. Quote That the thoughts that arise in your mind share interdependent origination with things elsewhere in reality. A thought exists and something else exists in reality, both have to exist at the same time to enable their own existence. You cannot have one without the other. And it reveals to use how our thoughts create, and why we should manage our thoughts. We didn’t create anything from this exercise, except for the thoughts of contemplation. Yes we should manage our thoughts, and yes our thinking can lead to actions that change reality in some way....but as to our thoughts changing reality? No. We may have a thought that we would like to build a bridge. So, we thought about it. We designed a bridge, considering the relevant forces, materials needed, methods of construction....etc. we can think about this for a day or a lifetime, but unless we actually put forth the effort to build the bridge, it will never exist anywhere except for our own minds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted April 21, 2021 #25 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Interesting where I’m from, we call a brew beer, and it’s served cold. Where you are brew must mean coffee and it’s served hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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