Department of Homeland Security is now watching social media for terrorist narratives

[Myles]

13 hours ago, and then said:

That's an opinion based on your biases.  Is it so difficult to understand that Americans across the nation who watched a bunch of lawless savages looting and burning in multiple cities, while the law enforcement agencies there basically IGNORED them, might think they were as entitled to get loose with their respect for law?  It shouldn't be.  What we witnessed was a massive and growing double standard of "justice" in this nation and that is corrosive.  

Proof of that is the topic of this very thread.  We are going to see Feds targeting, probably exclusively, those on the Right who have the nerve to speak out against obvious discrimination and double standards under the law while Democrats are in power.  If I'm wrong, and I genuinely hope I am, I'll cheerfully admit it.  Millions of Americans are angry, even outraged at the actions taken by the FBI, CIA, DoJ in general, and other agencies that were used to spy on and attempt to remove a duly elected president.  Evidence trickled out for 4 years yet not a SINGLE individual was so much as indicted, let alone tried for their actions.  That kind of "justice" may seem okay to those whose "side" is winning but the truth is that if the tables were turned and those acts were against your party, you'd be having a screaming fit about it.  You know you would.  And, you'd be RIGHT if it was happening to you.

I've said this for a few years now.  Lawlessness is a cancer and our country won't survive it for long.  When enough Americans lose faith in our justice system, this country will come apart at the seams.

They also damaged and broke into many government buildings.

[Gromdor]

8 hours ago, and then said:

I've heard indications that Maricopa county had as many as 200K votes that were illegal.  IF they can show proof of this that will be rather overwhelming.  One of the problems the audit has come against is the convenient erasure of databases as well as lawsuits to stop the audit cold.  I don't care how your party pulls this off.  It doesn't really matter.  What does matter is the perception of those Americans who still are willing to hear evidence.  When the numbers of suspect votes are presented as well as the MEANS by which they were GENERATED, becomes generally understood, it will be VERY difficult for them to pull off the same thing twice.  I think they realize this and are panicking because with the train wreck Biden's administration is headed for, there is no way the Ds win re-election without fraud.  It will be entirely possible for the Ds to lose both houses of Congress as well as the Oval office and they KNOW IT...

If they dump the filibuster, the country as we've known it will be on its way to dissolution.

So 200k illegal votes out of the 500k they counted so far?  Impressive.  I'm a bit curious about the erased database as well-  It's a database of what?  Both the ballots and the voter registry exist still.  Is it a database of contact information for poll workers?  Is it a database of pizza ordered?  Maybe it's a database of fake ballots delivered by the Chinese and put into the ballot box? Because everyone knows that to do election fraud, you have to create a database of some sort and delete it.

[preacherman76]

6 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

You want an alternative reality.

I know that - it's not an assumption - because you can't back up the the number of 900 affidavits from anything other than cult rags from Falun Dong.

I never said anything about 900 affidavits. There are well over 100 though. 

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You also lie about fairness when you want an audit from a Cyber Ninjas.  Their CEO is an alleged witness that signed one of these worthledd affidavits.  That raises a reasonable apprehension of bias.  We can see the who's got their head in the sand wanting the desired answer from a conflict of interest.

Cyber ninjas? Lol ok. 
 

I don’t know what CEO you are talking about, but if he witnessed mishandling of the election he should be willing to sign, under the threat of perjury, an affidavit. Why should that make him biased? Heck seems to me that could just make him informed. Depending on what he saw happen, he could just be the man for the job. As he would know where to look. 
 

Funny how the people who have lawfully brought this audit about instantly lose credibility with the left before the results are even known. 
 

I just can’t understand why you think the will of half the population should just be dismissed. If half the country believes elections are no longer held fairly, that’s a big problem. Everyone should be going out of their way to restore faith, even if there was nothing nefarious. 

[+Desertrat56]

@and then  fact check.   Jeezus you won't give up will you?   You need a different hobby, one that would help you get your mind back.

These stories are from April, nothing more recent came up in my search.  

https://checkyourfact.com/2021/04/28/fact-check-election-audit-arizona-quarter-million-illegal-votes/

Verdict: False

While an audit of ballots is being conducted in Arizona’s Maricopa County, the results have not been released at this time. Arizona election officials also refuted the 250,000 fraudulent vote number.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/28/fact-check-false-claim-arizona-audit-found-evidence-election-fraud/4860721001/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/apr/27/facebook-posts/no-quarter-million-fraudulent-votes-werent-uncover/

These claims have been dismissed in court and proven unsubstantiated by a previous audit of a sample of ballots. 

 

[Golden Duck]

35 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

I never said anything about 900 affidavits. There are well over 100 though. 

Cyber ninjas? Lol ok. 
 

I don’t know what CEO you are talking about, but if he witnessed mishandling of the election he should be willing to sign, under the threat of perjury, an affidavit. Why should that make him biased? Heck seems to me that could just make him informed. Depending on what he saw happen, he could just be the man for the job. As he would know where to look. 
 

Funny how the people who have lawfully brought this audit about instantly lose credibility with the left before the results are even known. 
 

I just can’t understand why you think the will of half the population should just be dismissed. If half the country believes elections are no longer held fairly, that’s a problem. Everyone should be going out of their way to restore faith, even if there was nothing nefarious. 

You really should read the thread before embarassing yourself.

It doesn't matter if you mentioned a number or not. Another poster did and I was replying to them when asked why I assumed they only want one and only one answer.  At any rate your claim of 100 is just unsubstantiated.

What is even more embarrassing is your response to Cyber Ninjas and it's CEO.  It's funny how someone that doesn't care how a business conducts itself thinks they're "Right".  You don’t mind the hidden methodology just so long as get the answer you want.

All this to appease a small percentage of the country.  The 70 million Trumpettes barely account for 20 per cent of the population.

[preacherman76]

2 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

You really should read the thread before embarassing yourself.

It doesn't matter if you mentioned a number or not. Another poster did and I was replying to them when asked why I assumed they only want one and only one answer.  At any rate your claim of 100 is just unsubstantiated.

What is even more embarrassing is your response to Cyber Ninjas and it's CEO.  It's funny how someone that doesn't care how a business conducts itself thinks they're "Right".  You don’t mind the hidden methodology just so long as get the answer you want.

All this to appease a small percentage of the country.  The 70 million Trumpettes barely account for 20 per cent of the population.

So I’m a liar cause another poster made a claim? And it doesn’t matter that I didn’t make it? You can still just call me a liar? 
 

Forget you. 

[preacherman76]

3 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

@and then  fact check.   Jeezus you won't give up will you?   You need a different hobby, one that would help you get your mind back.

These stories are from April, nothing more recent came up in my search.  

https://checkyourfact.com/2021/04/28/fact-check-election-audit-arizona-quarter-million-illegal-votes/

Verdict: False

While an audit of ballots is being conducted in Arizona’s Maricopa County, the results have not been released at this time. Arizona election officials also refuted the 250,000 fraudulent vote number.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/28/fact-check-false-claim-arizona-audit-found-evidence-election-fraud/4860721001/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/apr/27/facebook-posts/no-quarter-million-fraudulent-votes-werent-uncover/

These claims have been dismissed in court and proven unsubstantiated by a previous audit of a sample of ballots. 

 

Just because “election officials” are refuting it, that doesn’t necessarily make it so. Of course they are going to refute it. They are the ones telling us they ran a fair election. 
 

Id like to hear what the auditors have to say about it. 

[Gromdor]

4 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Just because “election officials” are refuting it, that doesn’t necessarily make it so. Of course they are going to refute it. They are the ones telling us they ran a fair election. 
 

Id like to hear what the auditors have to say about it. 

The auditors said that they only finished counting 500,000 ballots and that they need to stop so the arena can do pre-planned events.  If half of them were illegal then even they would have said something was amiss and formally reported it to the media and the Arizona legislature instead of conspiracy forums....

[Golden Duck]

10 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

So I’m a liar cause another poster made a claim? And it doesn’t matter that I didn’t make it? You can still just call me a liar? 
 

Forget you. 

When did I call you a liar?

You really should read the thread to avoid embarrassment. 

[rashore]

Hey folks, let's keep the conversation civil, constructive, and on topic please. Don't discuss each other or toss around derogatory commentary about entire groups of people please. 

[the13bats]

9 hours ago, Myles said:

They also damaged and broke into many government buildings.

Im glad you brought this up i presented my related question to another person who then went crickets and tumbleweeds.

Please back up your claims list links to "many" other comparable to the capital building gov building that were stormed, damaged, and that high government political persons were in at the time and having their lives threatened with cries of harm or death with a gallows set up outside.

I already know about the guys who stormed that mich gov building raving about covid precations so no need to include them or the group who wanted to kidnap the governor.

Please post your links.

[Grim Reaper 6]

12 hours ago, rashore said:

Out of curiosity to the bolded... what date were you actually going for there?

I see your point I meant 6 January 2021

[the13bats]

3 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

I see your point I meant 6 January 2021

I thought so

[the13bats]

9 hours ago, preacherman76 said:

I just can’t understand why you think the will of half the population should just be dismissed. If half the country believes elections are no longer held fairly, that’s a big problem. Everyone should be going out of their way to restore faith, even if there was nothing nefarious. 

I simply have not seen the evidence that shows and proves 1/2 the country no longer believes elections are fair, is that unproven opinion related to trumps sore loser braying about election fraud and not his own disastrous life costing incompetence cost him 2020?

I bet it is, and the thing is half the country didnt even vote for the failure and many who did do not believe his election fraud claims, one of his lawyers making such clsims said to the effect no rational person would believe it.

Lets roll back, start by proving half the country believes elections are not held fairly.

Also just curious what percent of the country thinks trump is a cry baby sore loser and they are happy his incompetence is over.

 

Edited May 19, 2021 by the13bats

[Michelle]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/334972-poll-dems-dont-accept-trump-as-legitimate-president

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/meet-the-press-70-years/john-lewis-trump-won-t-be-legitimate-president-n706676

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a28225249/jimmy-carter-donald-trump-illegitimate-president-russia/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-brian-schatz_n_5993605be4b0e789a94775cd

https://news.yahoo.com/al-sharpton-the-process-that-elected-trump-was-not-legitimate-162351096.html

[preacherman76]

On 5/18/2021 at 7:13 AM, Golden Duck said:

You want an alternative reality.

I know that - it's not an assumption - because you can't back up the the number of 900 affidavits from anything other than cult rags from Falun Dong.

You also lie about fairness when you want an audit from a Cyber Ninjas.  Their CEO is an alleged witness that signed one of these worthledd affidavits.  That raises a reasonable apprehension of bias.  We can see the who's got their head in the sand wanting the desired answer from a conflict of interest.

This is what you said, quoting only me. But I should be embarrassed because I said you called me a liar? 
 

keep digging though 

[Golden Duck]

1 hour ago, preacherman76 said:

This is what you said, quoting only me. But I should be embarrassed because I said you called me a liar? 
 

keep digging though 

If you enter a conversation asking why I hold an opinion about another user, it's fair to assume you're a fellow traveller and that you've read the thread.

You asked.  If you take the answer personally, that's your choice.

Pardon me for thinking you were aware of the conversation and weren't going off half-cocked.

[Grim Reaper 6]

On 5/19/2021 at 3:04 AM, Desertrat56 said:

@and then  fact check.   Jeezus you won't give up will you?   You need a different hobby, one that would help you get your mind back.

These stories are from April, nothing more recent came up in my search.  

https://checkyourfact.com/2021/04/28/fact-check-election-audit-arizona-quarter-million-illegal-votes/

Verdict: False

While an audit of ballots is being conducted in Arizona’s Maricopa County, the results have not been released at this time. Arizona election officials also refuted the 250,000 fraudulent vote number.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/28/fact-check-false-claim-arizona-audit-found-evidence-election-fraud/4860721001/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/apr/27/facebook-posts/no-quarter-million-fraudulent-votes-werent-uncover/

These claims have been dismissed in court and proven unsubstantiated by a previous audit of a sample of ballots. 

 

So they are just talking Butt Butter are they, why should that surprise you. They still think Trump wasn't responsible for the Insurrection at the Capital!!

[+and-then]

So, our current ruling class in DC are ramping up domestic surveillance yet they are blaringly quiet on this issue:

https://www.takimag.com/article/the-future-of-floydism/

They expect to be taken seriously AND to be respected.  Every day that passes exposes them for what they are and what their goals are.  The irony is astounding to me.  The real power of government comes from the "consent of the governed".  Once that is gone or even just badly weakened, no government will be able to enforce laws that millions simply will not respect.  I think we are headed toward a wave of civil disobedience that is unprecedented in our history.  

[Agent0range]

50 minutes ago, and then said:

So, our current ruling class in DC are ramping up domestic surveillance yet they are blaringly quiet on this issue:

https://www.takimag.com/article/the-future-of-floydism/

They expect to be taken seriously AND to be respected.  Every day that passes exposes them for what they are and what their goals are.  The irony is astounding to me.  The real power of government comes from the "consent of the governed".  Once that is gone or even just badly weakened, no government will be able to enforce laws that millions simply will not respect.  I think we are headed toward a wave of civil disobedience that is unprecedented in our history.  

Well, lets just release every single person that's in prison, because they enforced laws that the criminals didn't respect....

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

On 5/19/2021 at 1:49 PM, Michelle said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/334972-poll-dems-dont-accept-trump-as-legitimate-president

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/meet-the-press-70-years/john-lewis-trump-won-t-be-legitimate-president-n706676

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a28225249/jimmy-carter-donald-trump-illegitimate-president-russia/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-brian-schatz_n_5993605be4b0e789a94775cd

https://news.yahoo.com/al-sharpton-the-process-that-elected-trump-was-not-legitimate-162351096.html

The way I see it, things have gone steadily downhill from Bush’s election.

Then the reaction from one side was “you elected an idiot, God help us all”.  
Then comes Obama. The reaction from the other side was “you elected a Muslim/terrorist lover/non-American/socialist”. 
Roll around Trump and suddenly the election was wrong, the man illiterate and illegitimate according to the other side (as Michelle’s post shows). 
And we ALL remember the result of Biden’s win, a group of “tourists” went for a “walk” because the election was “STOLEN”. 

 

the next one? Heaven help us, I expect shots to be taken at the winner.