Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 25, 2021 #301 Share Posted July 25, 2021 35 minutes ago, Dejarma said: humans can do all the above/ though it's known some animal senses are more acute than ours; humans also have the same senses so when you say: i strongly disagree In truth, I could careless what you think. Your so lost you when you quote me to have to add previous comments that I explained to current quotes. Oh by the way, name a single animal sense that is not more acute then ours? Thats says it all, so Troll on Humphrey! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 25, 2021 #302 Share Posted July 25, 2021 12 hours ago, Liquid Gardens said: Or of course it's because your argument wasn't solid enough and thus not convincing. Trying to make the most solid argument you can doesn't have to be your prime aim it could of course be a secondary aim, you can have more than one aim. Unless of course your prime aim conflicts with this secondary aim for some reason, which I ultimately suspect might have more to do with why you don't convince others. We were referencing expertise not mere familiarity and how that can be 'shown' here. No, after a few hours you are not going to convince me that you have expertise on Jimi, I have countless questions that to real Jimi-freaks are basic that would stop you in your tracks. I can 'show' my expertise on Jimi here, the mere possibility that you might be suggesting that I'm not really showing that expertise and instead doing a couple hours research every time I mention something obscure about Jimi is an extraordinary claim. Until you have some evidence for that, Occam's still giving out shaves. That doesn't have anything to do with the logic you whipped out, that since you have taught religion for however many decades you are up to claiming now and Sherapy in your view has been into Buddhism for a shorter length of time that 'thus', well, that this point is of any relevance at all. At a basic logical level this is exactly where arguments from authority are most fallacious in my view; yes, despite this fallacy there are undeniably reasonable arguments for believing experts (doctors, etc) based on their 'authority', but that flies out the window when you have conflicts between people who are knowledgeable about the topic. Never in the history of the world have someone's 'qualifications' made an argument correct, yet you bring them up very frequently. My arguments are solid and can be justified by known facts, through research Sometimes there are academic arguments over issues but my thoughts always have strong academic support Because I know I am right, or a t least have an arguable pov it isn't really my aim to convince others just to present those facts I wouldn't believe anything I read on UM without confirmation, and I wouldn't expect others to believe me. But follow up the sources I give, do some of your own research, and you will find solid support for my pov Expertise can't be demonstrated online. I could convince anyone I was an expert on Jimi using words, unless the y chose to disbelieve me. If the y chose disbelief then, even if I WAS an expert, they wouldn't believe me It takes me a few seconds to find and memorise )or copy) anything online and if you know something about Jimi it is bound to be online. Thus anything you know i can almost certainly find out in a minute or two There are a lot of fakers online Not saying you are, but its one reason many of my posts, while totally correct are disbelieved eg I am often accused of googling to find answers or knowledge The truth is I already know what I post and use quotes to support the correctness of what I write Mine is not an "argument from authority " it simply claims that I am a greater authority on Buddhism than Sherapy, is having studied it for years, and taught t for a decade or so, as well as living by some of its basic tenets for 50 years or so . Ps I trust an authority on any topic more than any non authority, perhaps because all my life iI have valued the knowledge of authorities in their fields, beginning with my parents and other elders, then my teachers, and, later, academic experts and practical experts, like the old farmer who taught me to shear sheep and class their wool. I learned Buddhism from both Buddhists I knew, and from books etc. Same for all the religious beliefs i studied when younger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 25, 2021 #303 Share Posted July 25, 2021 11 hours ago, Sherapy said: Wow, from the guy who was once an English teacher, I am shocked to read this as a counter to LG. “Show; don’t tell: is a writing staple drilled into the students head. For example: one could tell you “the house looks old,” or they could show you , “The house slouched in a yard choked with weeds, its paint faded and flaking, the lace curtains in its windows yellowed with age.” The majority of your posts show that you lack the experience of the topics you engage in, as of late one could add Buddhism to the list. On this path, one practices their way, it is in the practice that one gleans the wisdoms needed, the journey of your own experience is your teacher not theories or books, or some guy online bsing he is an enlightened guru one doesn’t look to others to teach us, yet, we might share our wisdoms by example on try it or leave it basis, not in righteousness, at best the sharing reveals where we are at, what we are working through, most Buddhists encourage each other, not unlike a yoga practice the teacher only encourages and offers suggestions to go deeper in the asana they don’t tell you how the deeper should be for you. One shares their experience without condition, without attachment, without judgment the crux of Buddhism lies within and our own self awareness is our guide, insight is our flashlight as the practice deepens one may want to go deeper and it is at this point one might read the Sutra’s, or other great works, go to retreats, seek out the examples of those who practice etc. but it isn’t necessary. The wonder of this path is if there is anything to it any wisdom one will run right into it simply by practicing. For ex: The practice of ahimsa (I used a vegan lifestyle as my canvas) it was a 5 year plus journey for me and along the way through the lens of self awareness I got the insights that I needed. I am now on the path of compassion and kindness and mindful living ( I use my work as a caregiver as my medium) and it is a work in progress ( 5 years and still growing and the insights are coming)Yet, I sit at no ones feet and this includes yours, no matter how much you kick and scream, you can’t even embrace your own humanness at this point, you have nothing to offer thus far as NW said anyone can Google Buddhism and cherry pick for themselves, we don’t need MW cut and paste. Buddhism is a get in and get your feet wet type philosophy. Namaskar MW. You made my point No one can show online. It is all tell Teaching face to face is entirely different and there i agree with you. showing and doing are powerful teaching methods although there are at least 4 different types of students, employing different methods of learning, and a teacher must include all of those in their teaching methods I give knowldge and data freely but expect others to either reject it or to follow it up themselves, rather than taking my word for it My job is to present facts and alternative perspectives. Thats all Ps I totally embrace my humanness. indeed I am more aware of myself and my being than most. You refuse to accept much of the potential and capabilities of being human, and so self limit what you can be and achieve. Humans are much much more than what you see or believe them to be If you think a person must feel anger, hate, envy, fear, suffering etc to be human you are wrong Being fully human means getting past those primate emptions and embracing the potential of your mind . That is actually the core principle Buddha was teaching You can achieve nirvana with mental discipline and practice. Nirvana is (possibly) the highest state of consciousness a human can achieve Ie perhaps we are only fully human after we achieve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 25, 2021 #304 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Manwon Lender said: We have similar senses, but I believe that due to the fact that domesticate house pets are unable speak their other senses are more acute. Such as smell, hearing, and their vision this gives them the ability to sense our emotions, and to know when we are sick. I do agree though that most people don't understand the similarities that our pets have to us. JIMO Its science really. quote Scientists guess the dog's sense of smell is somewhere between 10,000 to 100,000 times more acute than ours. One of the reasons a dog has such better smelling ability than us is the number of scent receptors. For every scent receptor a human has, a dog has about 50. https://www.carecredit.com/vetmed/article/how-well-can-your-dog-smell/#:~:text=Dogs have a strong sense,times more acute than ours.&text=One of the reasons a,a dog has about 50. Dogs can detect cancer and covid, sometimes before testing can. They can detect and warn of falling glucose levels in people with diabetes The y can tell when ive had a piece of chicken while out, luckily something my wife cannot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 25, 2021 #305 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: copied rather than corrected Edited July 25, 2021 by Mr Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 25, 2021 #306 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Walker said: Its science really. quote Scientists guess the dog's sense of smell is somewhere between 10,000 to 100,000 times more acute than ours. One of the reasons a dog has such better smelling ability than us is the number of scent receptors. For every scent receptor a human has, a dog has about 50. https://www.carecredit.com/vetmed/article/how-well-can-your-dog-smell/#:~:text=Dogs have a strong sense,times more acute than ours.&text=One of the reasons a,a dog has about 50. Dogs can detect cancer and covid, sometimes before testing can. They can detect and warn of falling glucose levels in people with diabetes The y can tell when ive had a piece of chicken while out, luckily something my wife cannot I agree with you! Thanks for your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted July 25, 2021 #307 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Dogs can't detect or identify a pathological liar anywhere close to the level of a rational thinking person can. ~ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 25, 2021 #308 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Manwon Lender said: I agree with you! Thanks for your post. What; you have a secret addiction to fried chicken, as well ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 25, 2021 #309 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Just now, third_eye said: Dogs can't detect or identify a pathological liar anywhere close to the level of a rational thinking person can. ~ I'll bring mine around to your place, and we will see about that . They know when you tell them an untruth, and can get quite upset. Eg if I tell them we are going for a run, and than cant take them, they get quite agitated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 25, 2021 #310 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: He was a highschool geography teacher. Nothing more, nothing less. Actually I was, and am, a lot more than that, but I am proud to have been a teacher . I also taught to university level; English, History, (at least 3 areas of study ) and Australian Studies as wellas 2 levels of university entrance Geography. I was a state moderator (Checking other teachers work and standards for university level courses ) for Geography. I wrote successful submissions for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of grants, helped create curricula and discipline policies at school and state level( concentring first on the particular needs of girls then of boys) I was school counsellor for staff students and community for about a decade. I was an elected councillor for over 20 years serving in a number of offices. I was regional and school union rep heath and safety officer; I was responsible for anti bullying /resilience reporting and the mandatory reporting of child abuse and neglect, and that is just my role in the education dept I was also a senior teacher (coordinator ) for a couple of decades, overseeing the other teacher's programming, teaching and discipline, in English Geography and History I ran work experience programmes, and trained practice teachers from university . I Gained a TAFE accreditation to teach Tourism and Hospitality I ran out door programmes including week long bush camps in the outback, including bushwalking, rock climbing and abseiling, and on the water, (aquatics camps) where students got their boat licence and learned safe boating, sailing, kayaking, and wind surfing. I can shear a sheep class it's wool, and make you a piece of jewellery from a piece of precious stone I collected myself . I have certificates in life saving (bronze star and medallion) and Red Cross and St Johns first aid and could give you CPR if you required it You aren't going to win an argument by arguing I am ONLY a Geography teacher, although as it happens I did win an award for the top geography teacher in the state, for my role with students and helping other teachers. 3rd eye is not very good a t detecting pathological liars, as everything i have just written is true and a matter of record, yet he thinks I am lying It would be funny, if it wasn't so sad . I suspect my dogs are better at it than him. Edited July 25, 2021 by Mr Walker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted July 25, 2021 #311 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: Actually I was, and am, a lot more than that, but I am proud to have been a teacher . I also taught to university level; English, History, (at least 3 areas of study ) and Australian Studies as wellas 2 levels of university entrance Geography. I was a state moderator (Checking other teachers work and standards for university level courses ) for Geography. I wrote successful submissions for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of grants, helped create curricula and discipline policies at school and state level( concentring first on the particular needs of girls then of boys) I was school counsellor for staff students and community for about a decade. I was an elected councillor for over 20 years serving in a number of offices. I was regional and school union rep heath and safety officer; I was responsible for anti bullying /resilience reporting and the mandatory reporting of child abuse and neglect, and that is just my role in the education dept I was also a senior teacher (coordinator ) for a couple of decades, overseeing the other teacher's programming, teaching and discipline, in English Geography and History I ran work experience programmes, and trained practice teachers from university . I Gained a TAFE accreditation to teach Tourism and Hospitality I ran out door programmes including week long bush camps in the outback, including bushwalking, rock climbing and abseiling, and on the water, (aquatics camps) where students got their boat licence and learned safe boating, sailing, kayaking, and wind surfing. I can shear a sheep class it's wool, and make you a piece of jewellery from a piece of precious stone I collected myself . I have certificates in life saving (bronze star and medallion) and Red Cross and St Johns first aid and could give you CPR if you required it You aren't going to win an argument by arguing I am ONLY a Geography teacher, although as it happens I did win an award for the top geography teacher in the state, for my role with students and helping other teachers. And this post demonstrates why you are nowhere near enlightenment. I knew you would bite. Your ego and attachment to your perceived success is holding you back, my friend. Quote 3rd eye is not very good a t detecting pathological liars, as everything i have just written is true and a matter of record, yet he thinks I am lying It would be funny, if it wasn't so sad . I suspect my dogs are better at it than him. You are much too concerned with what others think of you. Let that go so you can continue on your path to enlightenment. Na-Madagascar. Edited July 25, 2021 by Nuclear Wessel 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted July 25, 2021 #312 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: You aren't going to win an argument by arguing I am ONLY a Geography teacher, although as it happens I did win an award for the top geography teacher in the state, for my role with students and helping other teachers. Good for you, at least you're no longer denying you're a liar. That's progress, baby steps and thanks be to all that is divine or something else. Keep it up. ~ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted July 25, 2021 #313 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Enough with the bickering and derogatory personal observations please folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 25, 2021 #314 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Just now, Nuclear Wessel said: And this post demonstrates why you are nowhere near enlightenment. No it doesn't. You don't actually understand the nature of enlightenment I am proud of my achievements where the y have been achieved through hard work and effort However I am not "attached" to them or to anything else Buddha never said we should simply give up on life or not strive to help others and do good works He said tha t suffering comes from attachment to things and people There is a difference between caring for people and attachment to them quote 1. Happiness The enlightened person is happy and joyful. He has a cheerful disposition most of the time, and is willing to share that joy with others. He is always optimistic that all challenges have a resolution. Even though the resolution may not be the most desirable, he is confident that he is capable of being at peace with it. (Check) 2. Peaceful and Serene The enlightened person is peaceful and serene, because he is free of fear and other unwholesome emotions. He can see that the human condition reaches beyond this physical existence, so he no longer has a fear of the unknown. He is free of worry because he understands that freedom from suffering comes from within, and not from material possessions. Check 3. Loving, Kind, and Compassionate The enlightened person is loving, kind, and compassionate for two main reasons: 1) he genuinely cares about other people, regardless of whether they care about him, and 2) he knows that other people provide him with the spiritual nourishment he needs to continue growing. Therefore, he remains spiritually open to everyone. check 4. Not Self-Centered The enlightened person is not self-centered, because he has lost the sense of a separate self. He can see the interconnected nature of our existence. To him, this is not just a concept, but a reality. He realizes that all physical manifestations (humans, animals, plants, etc.) depend on each other for their survival. Check (even though others might disagree) I've spoken about the actual reality of this many times 5. Emotionally Stable The enlightened person is emotionally stable because he no longer has an ego that needs validation for its existence. He is not hurt because there is no ego to hurt. He does not get angry because he is understanding and compassionate toward those who are not as far along the spiritual path. check If anything, I have been criticised here for being too unemotional 6. Patient and Understanding The enlightened person is patient and understanding because he appreciates how our ignorance creates our own suffering. He understands the challenges of achieving enlightenment, so he doesn't condemn people for their missteps. Well I do my best but gee some people are hard to get through to 7. Humble The enlightened person is humble. Since he knows his place in the universe, he doesn't need validation from others. Therefore, he has nothing to prove to anyone, including himself. His humble nature allows him to be kind and gentle, and be open to everyone he encounters. . OK you got me, but not really I am honest about myself my strengths and weaknesses. I see both humility and bragging as a form of lying This is perhaps caused by my early upbringing where truth was all; where one did not exaggerate one's accomplishments but one did not hide or belittle them either. Insightful and Open-Minded The enlightened person is insightful and open-minded. He is able to see the world with great clarity, without attachment to preconceived ideas about people, places, and things. This enables him to observe the world without jumping to conclusions. Belief and intuition are replaced with clarity of vision and understanding. Check. 9. Inner Strength The enlightened person has great inner strength. He has learned healthy ways of connecting with the sources of spiritual nourishment -- through healthy interactions with people, and within. He no longer has a need for the power struggles that most of us engage in. check absolutely. Again, if anything, criticism of me is that i am TOO certain of myself with too much inner strength and confidence in myslef 10. Leadership The enlightened person is a leader. Having awakened to the point of understanding the nature of suffering, he realizes his duty to help other people find freedom from suffering. He leads by example, rather than control. People follow him because of who he is and what he stands for. They want to be more like him. Yep been a leader all my life, although i am a little constrained by my humility, lack of ego, and lack of need for power or validation 11. Mindful of His Health The enlightened person is mindful of his health -- physical, mental, and emotional. He knows that his mind, body, and spirit must be in harmony in order to maintain his spiritual condition. He has developed an understanding of physical and mental health, and doesn't blindly depend on others for his health. He is mindful of the nutrients and substances he puts into his body. Absolutely (although not perfectly) Idont drink alcohol take drugs and eat very healthily with a mainly vegetarian diet. I exercise and live a healthy life I have good relationships with others and excellent emotional health 12. Committed to His Spiritual Practice The enlightened person never forgets how he achieved enlightenment. He is also aware that it takes continuous effort to remain that way. It takes a great deal of spiritual nourishment to help others along their path, so he's aware that he needs to replenish his spiritual strength on a daily basis. Otherwise, he'll lose his effectiveness as a spiritual messenger. Overall, the enlightened person is mindful of himself, and the world around him. Furthermore, he is curious and willing to continue learning. He is aware that even though he can see with great clarity, developing an understanding of the true nature of our existence takes time to observe and investigate. check Ive actually been posting these points here 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted July 25, 2021 #315 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Walker said: No it doesn't. You don't actually understand the nature of enlightenment I am proud of my achievements where the y have been achieved through hard work and effort However I am not "attached" to them or to anything else Buddha never said we should simply give up on life or not strive to help others and do good works He said tha t suffering comes from attachment to things and people There is a difference between caring for people and attachment to them quote 1. Happiness The enlightened person is happy and joyful. He has a cheerful disposition most of the time, and is willing to share that joy with others. He is always optimistic that all challenges have a resolution. Even though the resolution may not be the most desirable, he is confident that he is capable of being at peace with it. (Check) 2. Peaceful and Serene The enlightened person is peaceful and serene, because he is free of fear and other unwholesome emotions. He can see that the human condition reaches beyond this physical existence, so he no longer has a fear of the unknown. He is free of worry because he understands that freedom from suffering comes from within, and not from material possessions. Check 3. Loving, Kind, and Compassionate The enlightened person is loving, kind, and compassionate for two main reasons: 1) he genuinely cares about other people, regardless of whether they care about him, and 2) he knows that other people provide him with the spiritual nourishment he needs to continue growing. Therefore, he remains spiritually open to everyone. check 4. Not Self-Centered The enlightened person is not self-centered, because he has lost the sense of a separate self. He can see the interconnected nature of our existence. To him, this is not just a concept, but a reality. He realizes that all physical manifestations (humans, animals, plants, etc.) depend on each other for their survival. Check (even though others might disagree) I've spoken about the actual reality of this many times 5. Emotionally Stable The enlightened person is emotionally stable because he no longer has an ego that needs validation for its existence. He is not hurt because there is no ego to hurt. He does not get angry because he is understanding and compassionate toward those who are not as far along the spiritual path. check If anything, I have been criticised here for being too unemotional 6. Patient and Understanding The enlightened person is patient and understanding because he appreciates how our ignorance creates our own suffering. He understands the challenges of achieving enlightenment, so he doesn't condemn people for their missteps. Well I do my best but gee some people are hard to get through to 7. Humble The enlightened person is humble. Since he knows his place in the universe, he doesn't need validation from others. Therefore, he has nothing to prove to anyone, including himself. His humble nature allows him to be kind and gentle, and be open to everyone he encounters. . OK you got me, but not really I am honest about myself my strengths and weaknesses. I see both humility and bragging as a form of lying This is perhaps caused by my early upbringing where truth was all; where one did not exaggerate one's accomplishments but one did not hide or belittle them either. Insightful and Open-Minded The enlightened person is insightful and open-minded. He is able to see the world with great clarity, without attachment to preconceived ideas about people, places, and things. This enables him to observe the world without jumping to conclusions. Belief and intuition are replaced with clarity of vision and understanding. Check. 9. Inner Strength The enlightened person has great inner strength. He has learned healthy ways of connecting with the sources of spiritual nourishment -- through healthy interactions with people, and within. He no longer has a need for the power struggles that most of us engage in. check absolutely. Again, if anything, criticism of me is that i am TOO certain of myself with too much inner strength and confidence in myslef 10. Leadership The enlightened person is a leader. Having awakened to the point of understanding the nature of suffering, he realizes his duty to help other people find freedom from suffering. He leads by example, rather than control. People follow him because of who he is and what he stands for. They want to be more like him. Yep been a leader all my life, although i am a little constrained by my humility, lack of ego, and lack of need for power or validation 11. Mindful of His Health The enlightened person is mindful of his health -- physical, mental, and emotional. He knows that his mind, body, and spirit must be in harmony in order to maintain his spiritual condition. He has developed an understanding of physical and mental health, and doesn't blindly depend on others for his health. He is mindful of the nutrients and substances he puts into his body. Absolutely (although not perfectly) Idont drink alcohol take drugs and eat very healthily with a mainly vegetarian diet. I exercise and live a healthy life I have good relationships with others and excellent emotional health 12. Committed to His Spiritual Practice The enlightened person never forgets how he achieved enlightenment. He is also aware that it takes continuous effort to remain that way. It takes a great deal of spiritual nourishment to help others along their path, so he's aware that he needs to replenish his spiritual strength on a daily basis. Otherwise, he'll lose his effectiveness as a spiritual messenger. Overall, the enlightened person is mindful of himself, and the world around him. Furthermore, he is curious and willing to continue learning. He is aware that even though he can see with great clarity, developing an understanding of the true nature of our existence takes time to observe and investigate. check Ive actually been posting these points here Good luck on your path to enlightenment my friend. It is a long road, and you have many hurdles to overcome. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 25, 2021 #316 Share Posted July 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: And this post demonstrates why you are nowhere near enlightenment. I knew you would bite. Your ego and attachment to your perceived success is holding you back, my friend. You are much too concerned with what others think of you. Let that go so you can continue on your path to enlightenment. Na-Madagascar. I dont care what others think of me (online) but I do care when the y break rules, are deliberately rude and unpleasant, and when the y lie or make false accusations ie we hold those principles and values for social reasons and should maintain them for civil discourse, even online, where the y can do less harm than in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted July 25, 2021 #317 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Just now, Mr Walker said: I dont care what others think of me (online) but I do care when the y break rules, are deliberately rude and unpleasant, and when the y lie or make false accusations ie we hold those principles and values for social reasons and should maintain them for civil discourse, even online, where the y can do less harm than in real life. You do care. Good luck on your path to enlightenment. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 25, 2021 #318 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Nuclear Wessel said: Good luck on your path to enlightenment my friend. It is a long road, and you have many hurdles to overcome. Perhaps ,but not as many as some . Good luck with your life as well. (and i mean that sincerely ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted July 25, 2021 #319 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Nuclear Wessel said: You do care. Good luck on your path to enlightenment. No i dont. WHY should I care what anyone on UM thinks about me They don't know me well enough to pass judgement, and can't affect or influence my life I DO care what others in my real life think of me ,because how people perceive you, especially in a small community, affects how the y treat you eg if people know you are honest and reliable the y will extend credit or allow time to pay a debt If people like you, the y may give you a daily free coffee at their shop or even free food. So i like being respected and loved in my community and i appreciate it when i am thanked in words or other means. I like it when someone brings us round meals, or cookies, or eggs, or care packages, or chocolates or knitted rugs, or firewood, or other things; and i enjoy giving others things from our garden and many fruit trees vines etc I like it when people come up to me and give me money, simply because they like and respect us both, and want to help out I like it when someone comes up (or knocks on my door) and thanks me for my role in the community, or comments on my friendly nature and happy personality. I like it when someone tells me not to worry about paying off a debt immediately because he y know the y will get the money eventually That shows that I am at one with my community, rather than in conflict with it, or not really a part of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted July 25, 2021 #320 Share Posted July 25, 2021 And the house of cards came tumbling down... ~ 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 25, 2021 #321 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mr Walker said: No i dont. WHY should I care what anyone on UM thinks about me They don't know me well enough to pass judgement, and can't affect or influence my life I DO care what others in my real life think of me ,because how people perceive you, especially in a small community, affects how the y treat you eg if people know you are honest and reliable the y will extend credit or allow time to pay a debt If people like you, the y may give you a daily free coffee at their shop or even free food. So i like being respected and loved in my community and i appreciate it when i am thanked in words or other means. I like it when someone brings us round meals, or cookies, or eggs, or care packages, or chocolates or knitted rugs, or firewood, or other things; and i enjoy giving others things from our garden and many fruit trees vines etc I like it when people come up to me and give me money, simply because they like and respect us both, and want to help out I like it when someone comes up (or knocks on my door) and thanks me for my role in the community, or comments on my friendly nature and happy personality. I like it when someone tells me not to worry about paying off a debt immediately because he y know the y will get the money eventually That shows that I am at one with my community, rather than in conflict with it, or not really a part of it Can’t your multimillion dollar siblings help you too? In my line of work, in all walks of life, in all neighborhoods from rich to working class I do delight and marvel in how the human spirit will step up and help those who need. At this time, in your life you can use the help. All the best. For me: I am the opposite, what brings me joy is the ability to take care of myself, to pay my own way, to be smart with money, to have great credit, not needing extra time to pay things off, not being in debt beyond what is necessary, such as a car note or house, being prepared for our older years and the times in life that can bring hardship, such as an illness. There is a lot to be said for not having to stress about making ends meet. I like having the ability and means to help others, especially my boys. I find no greater joy then to give to my kids. Edited July 25, 2021 by Sherapy 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted July 25, 2021 #322 Share Posted July 25, 2021 When tall tales start leaking more than a hole in the dike... Quote ~ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted July 25, 2021 #323 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Despite moderators removing commentary and public warnings in this thread, folks are still continuing on with discussing each other. Since the OP topic seems to have run its course, this thread is closed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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